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Hello, I am aware that I have great gap of knowledge since I got my second attempt overall score to be as first attempt 479 which is discouraging. My lowest section is psych soc in both attempts 118 along CARS 119 and I heard many examiners state psych/soc should be the most straightforward if studied khan academy videos closely. I would appreciate a comparison or experience if any of you ever used prep 101 mcat course and if it was sufficient enough to get more than 500 score and how did you literally studied with them as I am in state where I stopped believing anyone said they covered everything that will appear in mcat and guarantee you get high score.. how trustworthy are prep 101 in the content review? Also, which better to utilize exam crackers vs Kaplan books? I want to really finish this exam as soon as possible with score more than 500 and get CARS to min 123 :,(
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Bonjour guys, j'ai besoin de votre précieuse aide et expérience dans mon dilemme ... je vous écoute (lis) .. HELP!!!! Donc: - J'ai un DEC en Sciences de la Nature (profil santé) donc j'ai tous mes préalables en sciences pour pouvoir faire Médecine, Pharmacie, Médecine Dentaire (obtenu en 2016) (cote r pas fameuse) - J'ai une mineure en Psychologie 30 crédits (faite car je voulais augmenter ma cote r, gros regret = j'ai empiré ma cote r : décès dans ma famille, beaucoup de problèmes financiers, bref je voulais obtenir au moins le diplôme) J'ai 2 choix qui s'offrent à moi: 1. Retourner au Cégep pour faire un DEC en Hygiène Dentaire (car je suis devenue assistante dentaire (oui un DEP) pour pouvoir travailler au moins dans le domaine de la médecine dentaire et aider la situation dans ma famille et moi-même) 2. M'inscrire dans un nouveau Baccalauréat Le tout dans le but d'améliorer ma cote r FINALEMENT et appliquer à nouveau Le problème c'est que j'ai su que les préalables de sciences expirent après 8 ans (les miens de mon DEC sciences santé vont alors expirer en 2024) : est-ce vrai ?! Quoi que je décide de faire les cours auront alors expiré et je devrai les refaire ... (à moins de faire un Bacc dans le domaine des sciences de la santé à l'Université)? Aussi: Si je retourne au cégep et je fais mon DEC en Hygiène Dentaire lorsque je ferai la demande d'admission en med, med dentaire, pharmacie je redeviens étudiant au niveau collégial même en ayant 30 crédits à l'UdeM Psychologie faits 3 ans auparavant ? HELP, je n'ai pas de ressources, mais j'ai vu beaucoup d'information d'histoires dans ce forum qui sont parvenus à rentrer dans le programme souhaité. Merci de m'aider !!!!!!!! -
Hi everyone. I am currently a fourth year physics major at a university in Ontario. I have never taken a bio/biochem/orgo_chem course in university. So I have no solid background in most of what the MCAT covers. My cGPA is 3.82 (with the best two years of my three averaging to 3.95 on the OMSAS scale). So that gives me a little hope. In addition, I do have 2 years of solid research experience so far. Right now, I am thinking of pursuing a Masters in Physics (with a focus on radiation oncology physics) after undergrad to give myself some room to study for the MCAT and also have more things under my extracurricular section. Do you guys think this is a good move? What do you recommend to a pre-med like me? Do I have a chance at any Ontario schools? is it too late? I would appreciate your advice. -
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Long story short, I graduated with a bachelor in Engineering (Chemical) with a 2.76 cGPA and just finished a maters in Mathematics with a cGPA 3.7. After a series of incidents, I decided now to go for medical school. I'm deciding on whether to take non-degree pre med courses at some universities or go for a post bacc program for med school, or should I go for a second degree for a better GPA? I have research experience in math and bioengineering(worked under professors in school), no publications yet. Worked 2 years in a ophthalmologist office as a medical exam pretester(check patient vision, eye pressure, perform exams like OCT , visual Field , ..etc) during my undergraduate years. a lot other part times as cashier and sales associate during my undergraduate years too. What are my chances?
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Hi everyone, I'm currently in the process of trying to apply to medical school this year in Canada, where I'm from. Im currently doing a post-diploma Bachelor of Health Science in Medical Laboratory Technology with Dalhousie and am set to graduate this May. The program is online-only so, the entire time I've been enrolled, I've been working full-time at my job as a MLT while balancing school and other things outside of school and work. Because I have been simultaneously working full-time, I decided to do 4 courses for each semester, ranging from 3000-4000 level course (few 1000-2000 level courses as well) to give myself a chance to have time to myself while trying to prove to medical schools that I am capable of handling a full workload of full-time school as well as full-time work. The whole program involves doing 20 courses, or 60 credits, to complete the degree, so my plan was do 4 courses (full-time) for each semester within a 2-year timeframe. This includes doing 2 fall semesters, 2 winter semesters, and a summer semester in-between to equal 20 courses in the 2-year timeframe. My plan kind of got knocked during the summer semester and because of the way it went for me, I ended up doing 3 courses instead 4. So, my 4th summer course ended up as a 5th course in the fall semester 2020. As of right now, I'm doing my last 4 courses and am yet to do the MCAT, which I planned to study for after I complete all courses this semester. My goal is the apply to MUN Med, since I'm from Newfoundland, and McMaster. There are a few other schools I will apply but I have to update myself of their admissions requirements since some schools want the last 3-years of their undergrad or only allow traditional undergrad applicants with more than 60 credits to apply, etc., etc. So to simplify it, I completed: Fall 2019: 4 courses (3.60 GPA) Winter 2020: 4 courses (cGPA 3.83) Summer 2020: 3 courses (cGPA 3.82) Fall 2020: 5 courses (cGPA 3.89) Winter 2021: 4 courses (ongoing) Current cGPA: 3.89 Besides academics and before applying to school near the end of the summer, I'm planning to publish my systematic review. I have very little volunteering experience (but plan to volunteer after I complete this semester) but have been involved with extracurricular activities (dancing, singing, etc). I know it's hard to get an idea academically where I stand without an MCAT score, but I know what I need to strive for to be competitive. I wonder if I stand out enough as a non-traditional student with the way I went with getting my degree. I know I'll be competing with students who have done 5 courses a semester but I'm hoping that I stand out by working 75 hours bi-weekly, doing all sorts of different shifts (days, evenings, and nights) and still managing to get 3.80+ GPA, even so much as increasing my GPA by doing 5 courses the semester past. I could do another 5 courses this semester but I don't know if it would benefit me to prove to them I am capable of doing so since I've already did 5 courses in a semester. I am struggling with volunteer work but also hope that by working in healthcare as a MLT, that it shows that I do have qualities and passions for helping people and the medical field. Do you think doing a Master's or even a graduate diploma In the faculty of medicine program would better my chances of getting into Medicine with MUN or McMaster? I'm open to anyone's advice or opinions as what I could do to help my chances to be accepted or even where I stand as a future medical school applicant! -
I'm looking for advice on preparing to write the MCAT for April 2021. I completed a Honours B.Sc in 2012 and am now considering Med school. I want to write the MCAT as a first step in determining if I have what it takes before potentially doing a second UG. I'm looking for advice on the best study package for the MCAT. As a non-trad applicant who has been out of university for some time, I know I have knowledge gaps that need to be filled. I know Kaplan has been mentioned as a great resource and there are many other free study guides online. I'm considering purchasing the DIY Kaplan course for $1799. Am I better off trying to do free practice tests and using free online resources before purchasing Kaplan? Is the investment of purchasing the prep course worth it? Thanks for your feedback.
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Good day, I hope everyone is doing well. So I have asked about this in another Forum (under the similar username of this Premed101 account) and did get some positive replies from medical students and current undergraduate students. But I'm still facing the dilemma, so someone told me to post here in Premed101 to get more responses in order to make my decision. Please if you can take some time out and help me decide I'll be very grateful. I'm a 25y/o from Ontario, I dropped out of high school in my late teens due to personal problems and depression, then at the age of 21 I decided to go back to high school and finish off my Grade 12 courses. Then after almost 2 years of study I graduated with an overall of 87% in the OSSD. Upon graduating high school at 23 years old I went through a monetary crisis which led me to depression again, in addition I was very stressed with anxiety. I also procrastinated my undergrad application deadlines because I wasn't feeling well. Now, just recently after psychological counselling sessions I feel a slightly bit mentally prepared. But the problem is I hardly remember the things that I have learned in Grade 12 Physics and Chemistry. During that time I was mentally stressed being the oldest one in school but still managed to finish the high school courses by cramming. However the Grade 12 Biology, Calculus and Advanced Functions, I remember studying those. Hence I kind of remember the course materials of Grade 12 Biology, Calculus and Advanced Functions but not the ones that I crammed the Grade 12 Physics and Chemistry. I also didn't make any notes when doing the high school courses, I mainly bought a couple of textbooks by McGraw Hill and Nelson, did the practice questions and that it. And also another reason beside cramming , I had a 2 year study gap after graduating high school when I was depressed and felt drained out. There are still some Ontario universities and some Out of Province Universities that are still accepting students for undergraduate Fall 2020 entry since most University classes will be taken entirely online. Would it be better if I start my undergraduate this Fall 2020 (BSc in Biology or Biomedical Science) in OOP schools like University of Saskatchewan or other universities) without having any sort of preparation, because I feel that I have forgotten most of what I learned or crammed almost 2 years ago when I graduated high school at 23. Or is it going to be better if I start school in Winter 2021 and in the meantime in-between September to December I get prepared by making notes on each Grade 12 Courses that I previously completed. (Because before I didn't make any notes when studying for the grade 12 courses, as I said earlier I only read textbooks and did practice questions, I also crammed most of Grade 12 Physics and Chemistry). Is this a viable option? There are some huge cons of starting school in January 2021 which is I won't be accountable for wGPA and Full Course Load Med School application systems (I'm very sorry, I have little knowledge about this). Would it be a great disadvantage if I start school in Winter session? Is there anybody here that started their undergrad in January or Winter session in the pre-med track or got into medical school ? I'm just worried if I'll do very poorly in my 1st year because coming from a 2 year gap then there were some courses I crammed, I feel really guilty about this and regret it. I think if I had atleast 2/3 months of self preparation before starting the undergrad, I think I would have been able to relearn and recollect everything. But now if I start in Fall 2020 I have about 2 weeks left and if I start in January 2021 I can use the time to write notes on Grade 12 courses and relearn everything that I forgot. Please help me decide, what would you have done if you were in my situation? I really don't know who to talk to about this, I'm very much stressing out. I'm very sorry if I was being too repetitive in my description but I'm currently going through a lot of stress regarding this. Thank you very much for taking your valuable time to read through this, I will really appreciate all of your replies and suggestions. I need to make this decision in a few days, so Please help me out. -
Good day, I hope everyone is doing well. So I have asked about this in another Forum (under the similar username of this Premed101 account) and did get some positive replies from medical students and current undergraduate students. But I'm still facing the dilemma, so someone told me to post here in Premed101 to get more responses in order to make my decision. Please if you can take some time out and help me decide I'll be very grateful. I'm a 25y/o from Ontario, I dropped out of high school in my late teens due to personal problems and depression, then at the age of 21 I decided to go back to high school and finish off my Grade 12 courses. Then after almost 2 years of study I graduated with an overall of 87% in the OSSD. Upon graduating high school at 23 years old I went through a monetary crisis which led me to depression again, in addition I was very stressed with anxiety. I also procrastinated my undergrad application deadlines because I wasn't feeling well. Now, just recently after psychological counselling sessions I feel a slightly bit mentally prepared. But the problem is I hardly remember the things that I have learned in Grade 12 Physics and Chemistry. During that time I was mentally stressed being the oldest one in school but still managed to finish the high school courses by cramming. However the Grade 12 Biology, Calculus and Advanced Functions, I remember studying those. Hence I kind of remember the course materials of Grade 12 Biology, Calculus and Advanced Functions but not the ones that I crammed the Grade 12 Physics and Chemistry. I also didn't make any notes when doing the high school courses, I mainly bought a couple of textbooks by McGraw Hill and Nelson, did the practice questions and that it. And also another reason beside cramming , I had a 2 year study gap after graduating high school when I was depressed and felt drained out. There are still some Ontario universities and some Out of Province Universities that are still accepting students for undergraduate Fall 2020 entry since most University classes will be taken entirely online. Would it be better if I start my undergraduate this Fall 2020 (BSc in Biology or Biomedical Science) in OOP schools like University of Saskatchewan or other universities) without having any sort of preparation, because I feel that I have forgotten most of what I learned or crammed almost 2 years ago when I graduated high school at 23. Or is it going to be better if I start school in Winter 2021 and in the meantime in-between September to December I get prepared by making notes on each Grade 12 Courses that I previously completed. (Because before I didn't make any notes when studying for the grade 12 courses, as I said earlier I only read textbooks and did practice questions, I also crammed most of Grade 12 Physics and Chemistry). Is this a viable option? There are some huge cons of starting school in January 2021 which is I won't be accountable for wGPA and Full Course Load Med School application systems (I'm very sorry, I have little knowledge about this). Would it be a great disadvantage if I start school in Winter session? Is there anybody here that started their undergrad in January or Winter session in the pre-med track or got into medical school ? I'm just worried if I'll do very poorly in my 1st year because coming from a 2 year gap then there were some courses I crammed, I feel really guilty about this and regret it. I think if I had atleast 2/3 months of self preparation before starting the undergrad, I think I would have been able to relearn and recollect everything. But now if I start in Fall 2020 I have about 2 weeks left and if I start in January 2021 I can use the time to write notes on Grade 12 courses and relearn everything that I forgot. Please help me decide, what would you have done if you were in my situation? I really don't know who to talk to about this, I'm very much stressing out. I'm very sorry if I was being too repetitive in my description but I'm currently going through a lot of stress regarding this. Thank you very much for taking your valuable time to read through this, I will really appreciate all of your replies and suggestions. I need to make this decision in a few days, so Please help me out.
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Hi everyone, I'm looking for a little advice on writing the MCAT. I have been toying around with writing the MCAT since the last cycle's results came out on May 12th. I am from Ontario and was on the waitlist for the only school I applied to last cycle (NOSM). A little background/stats: I am a non-traditional applicant. Degrees: HBSc (Chemistry), Bachelor of Education (concurrent), Master of Education (completed Nov 2019). GPA: cGPA 3.56, 2Y GPA for Queen's 3.67 ABS: Likely the strongest suit in my application. Lots of long term EC's. SSHRC in Master's, two conference presentations, work as a lecturer at my local college, work as a contract lecturer at a university, worked for the Ministry of Education, specializations in social justice and Indigenous education, regional lead for PPE campaign during COVID, President of various clubs, etc. etc. Lots here - more quality items than spaces. I have not written my MCAT, which is why I only applied to NOSM last cycle. My GPA does not meet cut offs for Ottawa so that was out of the question. Even if I were to write the MCAT, U of T and Western are off the table due to me not meeting course requirements or not meeting Western's two year GPA threshold. However, writing the MCAT would make me eligible to apply to Queen's and McMaster, in addition to NOSM. I am still on the fence about writing the MCAT because I'm not sure if it will be worth it! PS the MCAT is not offered where I live, so I am looking at a 6 hour drive each and a stay in a hotel in potentially COVID times to write...but if people think I have a chance, of course it would be worth it. First there's Mac, which doesn't look at my ABS (strongest part of application), but does CASPER which I think I would excel on. Mac also only cares about CARS, which in my diagnostic MCAT result was my best section (scored 125 without any practice or studying). Queen's on the other hand highly values ABS (from what I gather) but requires MCAT cutoffs that are unknown. I would be very interested in attending Queen's or Mac. My areas of strength are Chemistry and Critical Reasoning/Analysis for sure. The other kicker is that I would be aiming to write September 27 or 28th so I have a little under 3 months. I am also working during this time about 6 hours per day (could maybe reduce to a little lower than that). Financially, I can't not work this summer, but I don't know if I have enough time. I have three questions: 1) Is it worth it for Queen's and possibly a slim chance at Mac? Especially when I was on the NOSM waitlist this year and potentially have a good chance next cycle? 2) Does Queen's or Mac ever take Master's graduates with a GPA like mine? 3) Do I have enough time to adequately prepare? My Chem thesis was completed in 2015-2016, so I need refreshers for sure, even in Chem. Thank you for any advice you can give
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Hi there, I'm a 1st year Mechanical Engineering student although first year is just general. But, I do also hold a Bachelor of IT, Game Dev degree which I graduated from last April with a 3.81/4.3 GPA. I also didn't take biology in high school as I didn't express much interest towards it then until now but did take physics and chemistry. As a background, I felt that Game Dev was not for me early in my degree but as I was being pressured to finish it off and also not having the grade 12 chem prereq at the time, I forced myself to go through with it but still finished with highest distinction. I knew engineering was for me for a while which is why I pursued it now, aiming to work as a mechanical engineer in the biomedical/biomechanical field. But, I did have moments throughout where I felt that being doctor might fit me more from my life experiences but was always under the impression that it required many prereqs for med school so didn't consider it until I just realized now that McMaster doesn't require any at all. I know that it is stupid of me to not find this out earlier before starting my engineering degree but my engineering prereqs were expiring so it was like now or never for that and I would've found it very risky to reject it as I know that getting into med school in Ontario is real competitive and if I would've failed at that, I would have no back up. So, my plan now if I decide to apply is to leave my engineering degree for med school after my 2nd year ends next April if I somehow get in as doing so would back me up with engineering if I fail at getting into med school. But, given my background and me dealing with a full 6 course load this summer, I don't know if it really is possible. One of those courses is chem and another one is a physics course, and I have already taken one physics already this past semester, so hopefully these should help. Also, I have taken courses such as Psychology and Sociology in my Game Dev major which may also help. In terms of my study routine, I was planning on around 10 hours a week over the course of 3-4 months before my 2nd year of engineering begins. Another thing is that I don't have much in terms of extracurriculars/volunteer work as I didn't consider med school until now so I was planning on getting some of those in the 2nd half of the summer but given the COVID-19 situation, that may or may not be possible. But, I read somewhere that Mac doesn't strongly consider ECs as much and mainly just care about other aspects like the GPA although I may be wrong which is why I'm asking for help here. Below were my questions: 1) Is it possible for me to be ready for the MCAT in this 3-4 months time given my situation or am I just being foolish to even be considering it? 2) I read somewhere that Mac only considers the Verbal Reasoning component and Critical Analysis and Reasoning Section for MCAT so given my limited time, would it be a good idea to just study those as I would only be applying to Mac? 3) Is it possible to just use Khan Academy and try to fill in any parts I don't understand through like YouTube or something? I really prefer to not spend money on anything to prepare for it unless absolutely necessary as my chances of getting in seem real slim to me anyways. Any help would be appreciated and sorry if I sound really dumb to even consider applying with my situation. I'm unsure as I've seen similar posts online with mixed responses. Sorry for the long read, I was just trying to explain my situation as best as I could. Thanks a lot in advance! -
Join us! The Pre-Medicine Diversity Symposium is an annual UBC faculty-sponsored event designed to encourage people from all walks of life to apply to medical school. This event is tailored to applicants who consider themselves ‘non-traditional’ for reasons that may include having a non-science background, applying later in life, having children and family, having financial or personal hardship, or belonging to a demographic underrepresented in medicine. There will be events at all 4 sites in BC - Vancouver, Kelowna, Victoria & Prince George. FB event: https://www.facebook.com/events/506704993595930/ Google Form RSVP (this confirms your registration): https://forms.gle/Rkgm2exxU4RaQTWi6
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Join us! The Pre-Medicine Diversity Symposium is an annual UBC faculty-sponsored event designed to encourage people from all walks of life to apply to medical school. This event is tailored to applicants who consider themselves ‘non-traditional’ for reasons that may include having a non-science background, applying later in life, having children and family, having financial or personal hardship, or belonging to a demographic underrepresented in medicine. There will be events at all 4 sites in BC - Vancouver, Kelowna, Victoria & Prince George. FB event: https://www.facebook.com/events/506704993595930/ Google Form RSVP (this confirms your registration): https://forms.gle/Rkgm2exxU4RaQTWi6
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I am determined to attend medical school in Canada. Would love any advice regarding the few options I have Currently studying for the MCAT and going into the fourth year of my honours Science undergrad- 1st year GPA 3.21 (technically 4.5 course load, including my initial grade and my improved grade for my 1 repeated course) 2nd year GPA 3.44 3rd year GPA 3.63 I'm assuming these are my options (based on years of obsessive research on forums lmao): 1) Do a 5th year. Attain 3.8+ in year 4 & 5. Apply to Western in my 5th year. If unsuccessful, complete a master's program. Apply again to Western and Queen's (perhaps Ottawa?) Any other schools I would have a chance at? 2) Do a second undergraduate degree and open up doors to other schools. Could do this after completing my degree in four years or after doing the additional 5th year. I am studying hard for the MCAT and would say I have unique ECs. I appreciate any honest insight (optimistic/pessimistic). Thank you in advance!
