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Dr. Jan Intor

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I recently started looking into podiatry as a legit option should medicine not work out. I know its not as competitive as medicine and that its only available in few colleges in US. I was wondering if any of u guys have info about it?

- How they calculate their GPA

- Tuition for international student

- Admission requirements for international students

 

etc...

 

And info is appreciated!

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Correction, there's a chiropody program at the Michener. Slight but important difference. I don't remember exactly but I think one is able to do surgery and the other isn't (or something like that).

 

You're right. There is indeed a big difference in training and education between the two.

DPM can do complex foot surgery.

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Don't Get Fooled by Imitations

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Unfortunately, the professional title "Podiatrist" does not mean the same thing from province to province across Canada. The professional title "Podiatrist" originated in the USA and served to identify those foot specialists trained only within the USA that attained the post graduate doctoral degree, Doctor of Podiatric Medicine (DPM). The prerequisite to entry was a science baccalaureate degree and MCAT exam. The schooling was provided through, at one time, autonomous Colleges of Podiatric Medicine but more recently the podiatry programs at several of these College transferred over to be incorporated within bona fide universities with medical faculties such as Temple in Philadelphia, Finch in Chicago and others. Most all US states require post graduate hospital residency training for licensure, typically two years, but the push is on to very soon increase that to a three year minimum requirement. Furthermore, most state hospitals require this level of residency training for privileges within the hospital.

All this background information is very easily accessed by internet searching any one of many US podiatry websites including that of the American Podiatric Medical Association, the Council on Podiatric Medical Education (they independently accredit the various podiatry programs across the US), or any of the US schools of Podiatric Medicine.

 

So back to the mish mash that is Canada. In Canada, health care of course falls under provincial jurisdiction. That means that within each province, where the profession is regulated, that province can define "podiatrist" as they choose. Accordingly, in B.C., Alberta, Ontario and Quebec these provinces have defined a Podiatrist as one who holds the academic degree "Doctor of Podiatric Medicine (DPM)" obtained from one of the US podiatry programs OR from the relatively new (5 years?) program at the University of Trois Rivieres in Quebec. In B.C. and Alberta, podiatrists there enjoy an expansive scope of practise that includes the ordering of the wide gamut of diagnostic tests, broad drug prescribing privileges and a complete scope for surgery of the foot and ankle, hospital privileges. This scope in these two provinces is akin to what is practised in the USA. Unquestionably podiatrists in these provincial jurisdictions practice with the broadest scopes available in Canada.

(Further research possible through BC or Alberta Podiatry Association websites and the University of Trois Rivieres website.).

 

In Ontario, because the provincial government at the time believed pursuing salaried, hospital employed chiropodists working under the oversight of medical doctors in hospital clinics to be the way of the future, they promoted the profession of chiropody. Quite deliberately they did so in 1993 by placing a restriction on any Podiatrists (DPMs) seeking to come to ON to practise thereafter by preventing them from calling themselves podiatrists and by greatly limiting their scope of practise. That is, these individuals would be registered as chiropodists and they would also have to practise under the more restricted scope for chiropodists.

Chiropody in Ontario began in 1981 as a two year post high school diploma program at a community College in Toronto called George Brown College with some courses as well through Toronto Institute of Medical Technology (which some years later changed its name to The Michener Institute) and a clinic at Toronto General Hospital. The clinical component was taught by imported UK chiropodists. Some years later in and around 1993 the chiropody program divorced itself from George Brown College and soon thereafter the TGH teaching clinic was also closed. I believe that sometime at the turn of 2000 the chiropody program became 3 years in length, post high school, but within the last 3 years the Michener chiropody program has moved to require a baccalaureate degree prerequisite but not specifically in the sciences.

(These facts can be further explored at the following resources: The Michener Institute website; the Ontario Podiatric Medical Association website; the College of Chiropodists of Ontario (regulate podiatrists and chiropodists) website and the Ontario Society of Chiropodists website.)

 

Jump now across the ocean to the UK. Sometime in the late 1980's interest in adopting the USA derived term for foot practitioner arose within the ranks of the chiropody profession. Sometime in the 1990's the title of the UK national association changed to include both of the terms - chiropodists and podiatrists. Over the years the didactic training also evolved and accordingly so did the diploma titles. For a while in the 1990s the national association conferred upon state registered chiropodist graduates the non-academic designation "Diploma of Podiatric Medicine" abbreviated as D. Pod. M. . In time, the academic program names were changed to "Podiatry" and the 3 year baccalaureate conferred from the UK universities was "Bachelor of Science - Podiatric Medicine" (BSc. Pod. Med.). Nonetheless, an item by item comparison on issues such as scope of practise, drug prescribing privileges, the ability to order diagnostic testing (including just plain radiographs), surgical privileges, hospital privileges and a host of other such related items clearly illustrates the large discrepancy in the level of practise of UK trained Podiatrists in their "home" (the country in which they were educated) jurisdiction compared to that of USA trained Podiatrists in their home jurisdiction. That fact is indisputable.

 

In Saskatchewan and Manitoba the migration there to meet the demand for foot care was filled in the early days entirely by Brit trained chiropodists. In more recent years, several Ontario trained chiropodists have also migrated there to practise. To this day, no US trained DPMs practise in either of those provinces likely because of the limited scope in those provinces that was tailored around the UK chiropody foot care model.

Very curiously, and maybe some in the medical community out there can answer for me how in the public interest this is permitted, all the foot care practitioners in that province that are licensed to practice whether they originated from the more recent UK baccalaureate podiatry program or even as far back as the post high school Michener chiropody program, have the provincially sanctioned right to call themselves Doctor?!? (I believe that the same holds true for New Brunswick and Nova Scotia although I am not exactly sure if "podiatry" is a regulated profession in those provinces; namely, anyone with any qualifications can hold themselves out to be called a "Podiatrist" and "Doctor" there.) I know of no other jurisdictions in the civilized world where this kind of liberty is permitted. "Doctor" for individuals that hold academic diplomas that do not say doctor anywhere on the piece of paper. Someone explain that to me please.

 

There you have it. A brief novel on the hodge podge that is "podiatrist" across Canada. I encourage all interested parties to visit the websites listed and any others to become further enlightened on the subject.

 

The take home message, unfortunately, is that across Canada, unlike for any other health care profession in Canada, you cannot rely on the professional title alone to define your expectation of the training and/or the qualifications of the "podiatrist" you may be seeking treatment from. As a start one could investigate the academic degree, (and look very carefully at the letters and their arrangement too so as not to be mislead). For in Canada, from B.C. to Manitoba to Nova Scotia - a Podiatrist, is perhaps not a Podiatrist, is perhaps not a Podiatrist. Let the consumer beware.

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Hello you have a nice topic. You are fine, just do the best you can possibly do on your remaining classes and go ahead and apply everywhere that interests you - you have nothing to lose. I know many people...I included...that have low GPA for one reason or the next, and still get in to all pod schools. If you are serious about the profession and can prove that you are motivated to do the work while in pod school - and you interview well - then you will be fine. I have a very low GPA as I was much more concerned with my athletics in college - but I stepped it up when I decided to take the pre-reds for pod school. Thanks for sharing with us.

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Podiatrists diagnose and treat abnormalities of the lower limb. They give professional advice on the prevention of foot problems and on proper care of the foot. Many medical schools have started courses in podiatry in recent times. The students are taught for a wide range of clinical and communication skills used for treatment.

I found the following site very interesting for students who wants to become a podiatrist. http://www.bls.gov/oco/ocos075.htm

This career needs extensive training so that you'll be prepared for working with both competence and confidence.

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Yep, the American "podiatrists" who have the DPM degree are for all intents and purposes physicians who deal with problems associated with the foot. They are essentially what Dentists are to teeth and the mouth and Optometrists are to eyes but in the domain of our extremity that touches the ground. Depending on their training, they can diagnose (with x-rays, physical exam, etc) and treat pathologies that occur on the foot using both prescribed pharmaceuticals and surgeries. Many American podiatrists perform foot surgeries in the US that would only be reserved for orthopedic surgeons in other countries.

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Bonjour,

 

J'ai appliqué a l'UQTR en médecine pédiatrique (en tant qu'un étudiant à Concordia 2e année) et je vois que le test de français TFI est obligatoire. J'ai fais toutes mes études secondaires dans une école française ce qui me dispense à faire le TFI a l'UDM et Ulaval. Est-ce que je dois vraiment faire ce test ou rien que envoyer mes bulletins secondaires?

 

Merci. 

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