Will Donald Trump Be The Next President?

[leviathan306]

How likely is it that Donald Trump will be the next president of the united states of america? It seems like he is just about to lock up the republician nomination.

[FeministKilljoy]

My theory is the illuminati put him up to it. He'll secure the GOP nomination but will continue to be so outlandish and ridiculous he'll turn off most reps and they'll end up voting for my girl Hillary. Because the illuminati want Hillary to be the next president. And so do I

 

Trump's ridiculous. Carson's an idiot. Cruz is milk toast. Rubio's alright. 

[rmorelan]

every day I look at the Republican candidates and seriously wonder - really, is that the best they can do? Those are the top candidates? Roughly 1/2 the country is republican, and they supposedly have all this money/expertise and that is who is running? Really?

[FeministKilljoy]

I think it will get even better. What are the chances Trump announces Sarah Palin to be his VP?

 

Pass the popcorn.

[Exergy]

On 2/26/2016 at 8:17 PM, NeuroticDoodle said:

I think it will get even better. What are the chances Trump announces Sarah Palin to be his VP?

 

Pass the popcorn.

 

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[oshaku]

my bet's on Ivanka as his running mate.

[JohnGrisham]

Hilary...such a bad option, even amongst many bad options. As rmorelan sad, is that really all american politics has to offer?

[Invictus]

If Americans don't elect Bernie I'm seriously worried about humanity's future. 

[TheApiarist]

Trump will win

[rmorelan]

Highly unlikely. Trump isn't dumb and Palin isn't popular. Word on the street is he'll take Kasich as VP to lock up Ohio. 

 

exactly - he isn't dumb or foolish. People keep assuming that he is - and that is a major problem, because it makes people completely underestimate him, dismiss him and just assume he will go away.

 

he isn't going away. He is very much so used to sticking his neck out, managing basically campaigns, and using the media to his advantage. He is highly intelligent, fearless, quick on his feet, and has enormous financial assets to bring to bear. He has also been thinking about doing this for a very long time - so he has a plan.  I mean a very, very long time.

 

First step to solving any problem is realizing you have one. To date the old guard of the republican party haven't really realized there is a problem (take a look at how much money  this iteration of the Bush family presidential choice used up with zero results - that money came from somewhere ha). Now it is probably too late - his opponents are all attacking each other instead of him because they just couldn't get their heads around to thinking he was a contender. Anything they do at this point will be late in the game, poorly planed, and look desperate.  Plus he will be ready for attacks anyway. 

Edited February 27, 2016 by rmorelan

[Prothrombin]

He knows exactly how to win conservative voters. I think he'll win the Republican nomination but I don't see how he would be able to secure the presidential nomination. He'd have to win big states like California, Florida, and a lot of the eastern states. He could win NY though.

[Exergy]

If he's up against Hilary he'll just mud sling his way there. If he's up against Sanders it'll be much harder for him. But then again I don't know how electable Sanders is (being openly socialist and what not). 

[leviathan306]

I'm sad that dr Ron Paul didn't give it one more go. Only person I could support. I like some of trumps proposed policies though.

[geriatricsdoc]

TRUMP - MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!

[indefatigable]

This is getting scary  - he's accepting KKK support now and finding commonalities with dictator Mussolini...

 

 http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/02/28/468455028/trump-wont-condemn-kkk-says-he-knows-nothing-about-white-supremacists

[rmorelan]

I'm sad that dr Ron Paul didn't give it one more go. Only person I could support. I like some of trumps proposed policies though.

 

well none of them have completely bad policies - although they also all have some very stupid ones as well ha.

 

it isn't about the policies though - we all know those change quite often post - even for good reasons as no plan survived contact with the enemy and the economic situation is always in flux.

 

the question is how will that person deal with new issues that come up

[rmorelan]

TRUMP - MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!

 

ha, wonderful slogan. Cuts right to his demographic.

 

the question is exactly how does any of his policies actually do that.

[Edict]

I just find it so hard to believe he'll win... but he just might... I always up until this point thought that the number of people who don't like Trump is greater than 50% and so once the establishment weeds itself down to one candidate, Trump will lose.  

 

Trump is just selling an outlet for rage and a dream, his way of rallying the people is not too dissimilar from how Hitler rallied people for his own election. Not saying Trump is going to do what Hitler did post election but Trump is just appealing to popular anger. 

 

I have serious, serious doubts that Trump will ever be president however. The number of people who would never vote for Trump is much greater than the people that would vote for Trump and a Trump republican nomination will most likely cause independents and democrats to rally behind the democratic nominee. 

[canucks_14]

I think the lens with which we view trump's popularity is too skewed. Plus we're not even american either and it really is different down there. Like sure it may not seem like trump is popular with all the far left twenty somethings on our facebook feed who are denouncing trump. But if you went through the phone book to all the sixty somethings who have landline phones then I think a lot of people would vote for trump. He had a rally in mobile alabama with a tonne of people, I think it was over 40k. And a left publication like the new york times is constantly talking about how much momentum his campaign has - that all isn't coming from nowhere, - for example, as trump always points out he is generally leading the polls as well. So no, I don't think that there are more people who wouldn't vote for trump. Sure maybe in the college demographic but definitely not the general population. I think he will be the next president. Hopefully he doesn't mess everything up once he is president though.

And the hitler comparison's aren't really accurate. Sure the muslim stuff is a bit out there but with respect to him captivating people and giving them hope, aren't all candidates supposed to do that? Obama did that too. It's too bad trump's attitude turns some people off. I actually like his hard nosed approach.

Also he should destroy bernie sanders if bernie wins the democratic nom. There is no way a socialist will become president. The political landscape is a lot different than canada.

 

Edit: I was watching a trump documentary on the history channel a few months ago and it made me curious and I did some calculations. Trump turned a 1 million dollar loan into a minimum of 6 billion dollars, (although he claims 10 billion). So anyways if a regular person received a 40k loan for their college than that regular person would have to make about 57 million dollars by the time they are trump's age now in order for them to be as successful as trump is. I factored everything like inflation and what not in. So anyways I'd say an average person who makes over 55 million is pretty darn impressive and I would have respect for them. Remember for most people out there and especially people in the business domain the goal is to make the most money possible. So trump has probably accomplished his goals. Remember the average person would have to make a lot more than 55 million if the calculation used a 10 billion dollar net worth instead of a 6 billion dollar one as well.

[Invictus]

I think the lens with which we view trump's popularity is too skewed. Plus we're not even american either and it really is different down there. Like sure it may not seem like trump is popular with all the far left twenty somethings on our facebook feed who are denouncing trump. But if you went through the phone book to all the sixty somethings who have landline phones then I think a lot of people would vote for trump. He had a rally in mobile alabama with a tonne of people, I think it was over 40k. And a left publication like the new york times is constantly talking about how much momentum his campaign has - that all isn't coming from nowhere, - for example, as trump always points out he is generally leading the polls as well. So no, I don't think that there are more people who wouldn't vote for trump. Sure maybe in the college demographic but definitely not the general population. I think he will be the next president. Hopefully he doesn't mess everything up once he is president though.

 

And the hitler comparison's aren't really accurate. Sure the muslim stuff is a bit out there but with respect to him captivating people and giving them hope, aren't all candidates supposed to do that? Obama did that too. It's too bad trump's attitude turns some people off. I actually like his hard nosed approach.

 

Also he should destroy bernie sanders if bernie wins the democratic nom. There is no way a democratic socialist will become president. The political landscape is a lot different than canada. Do some more research on Bernie. He just wants what most other developed countries already have - single-payer healthcare, affordable tuition, a fair tax system that will give low-middle income families more opportunities to grow, etc.

 

Edit: I was watching a trump documentary on the history channel a few months ago and it made me curious and I did some calculations. Trump turned a 1 million dollar loan into a minimum of 6 billion dollars, (although he claims 10 billion). So anyways if a regular person received a 40k loan for their college than that regular person would have to make about 57 million dollars by the time they are trump's age now in order for them to be as successful as trump is. I factored everything like inflation and what not in. So anyways I'd say an average person who makes over 55 million is pretty darn impressive and I would have respect for them. Remember for most people out there and especially people in the business domain the goal is to make the most money possible. So trump has probably accomplished his goals. Remember the average person would have to make a lot more than 55 million if the calculation used a 10 billion dollar net worth instead of a 6 billion dollar one as well. Trump is a great businessman, there's no doubt about that. He should be respected for his money-making abilities, definitely. He is a capitalist at heart, someone who (like you said) is all about maximizing profits at all costs. I suppose this may just be a difference in philosophies, but to me the government exists not (just) to make money but to support its people (e.g. social security, welfare). Trump knows how to run a business, but NOT a country. Why do you think there is a separation between the public and private sectors?

[Invictus]

 

#Drumpf2016

[canucks_14]

Trump was a billionaire long before his father died. I'd still say he's pretty successful despite what that video leads you to believe.

[JohnGrisham]

Trump was a billionaire long before his father died. I'd still say he's pretty successful despite what that video leads you to believe.

Someone who rides on the coattails of their family and continues being rich is very different then someone who is a self-made millionaire.

 

 

[canucks_14]

Someone who rides on the coattails of their family and continues being rich is very different then someone who is a self-made millionaire.

 

 

Trump is exceedingly more wealthy than his father ever was. Like I also said he only received a 1 million dollar loan and turned it into billions. He is self made in that he turned his family from being millionaires into billionaires. Still pretty impressive.

[JohnGrisham]

Trump is exceedingly more wealthy than his father ever was. Like I also said he only received a 1 million dollar loan and turned it into billions. He is self made in that he turned his family from being millionaires into billionaires. Still pretty impressive.

hahahahaha

 

His fathers work ethic and starting from being an immigrant was far more powerful than Donalds rise to "billions".

 

"Only 1 million". right. Such a small amount.

 

Going from millions to "billions"(Yet to be proven), has a lot less systemic barriers than it does to go from 5$ to millions. When you are already a millionaire, you likely have a lot of social capital and connections that can help you make more money. Much different then when you have a modest bank account and little social capital.

 

When you have money, it is much easier to make more money than it is the other way around.  There's a reason why children of affluent families have it significantly easier and are able to "join the family business" in a way, and continue to develop new wealth. They are able to utilize capital to be able to make bigger power moves and more riskier decisions, to acquire even more wealth.  

 

When you have money, it is also easier to jump in on less risk investments that may simply just rely on a high-cost barrier to entrance. I.e. if a certain investment opportunity that is gauranteed to have a strong ROI - but you need to have the large amount of funds to be able to enter the bidding etc.