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Realized late into CaRMS that I want to do anesthesia. I only got exposed to the field in late third year so unfortunately, I had no idea how much I enjoyed it until then.


 


I have managed to get 4-6 weeks pre-CaRMS in anesthesia - mostly community, maybe one academic centre if I can swing it.


 


What are the chances here? I know its semi to moderate competitive with a %75 match rate last year. And I know they accept "late" applicants since they get people change their mind. But I feel HUGELY disadvantaged and am wondering if I should just take the year off and go back next year? 


 


What did succesful applicants have for electives? 


 


Am I doomed?


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I just want to say please DON'T TAKE A year off for the hope of matching to anesthesia.

If you check the statistics of unmatched applicants' rate for the subsequent year, it is pretty low. You might say that those applicants are aiming for competitive specialties, but I still think that you are disadvantaged applying as an unmatched applicant from the previous year.

 

Realized late into CaRMS that I want to do anesthesia. I only got exposed to the field in late third year so unfortunately, I had no idea how much I enjoyed it until then.

 

I have managed to get 4-6 weeks pre-CaRMS in anesthesia - mostly community, maybe one academic centre if I can swing it.

 

What are the chances here? I know its semi to moderate competitive with a %75 match rate last year. And I know they accept "late" applicants since they get people change their mind. But I feel HUGELY disadvantaged and am wondering if I should just take the year off and go back next year? 

 

What did succesful applicants have for electives? 

 

Am I doomed?

 

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I just want to say please DON'T TAKE A year off for the hope of matching to anesthesia.

If you check the statistics of unmatched applicants' rate for the subsequent year, it is pretty low. You might say that those applicants are aiming for competitive specialties, but I still think that you are disadvantaged applying as an unmatched applicant from the previous year.

 

Where are those stats? I though it was pretty good. This is what I got from the CaRMS forum:

 

2013 trying again in 2014: 30/35 matched (86%)

2014 trying again in 2015: 34/41 matched (83%)

2015 trying again in 2016: 22/28 matched (79%)

 

I mean, I would have to back up the second time around because I would want a guaranteed match so I would rank many many family programs as well. But - 79-86% is far from abysmal for unmatched applicants trying again! 

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That's all I can find, it's for the second iteration though: http://www.carms.ca/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Table_63_Prior_Year_Canadian_Graduates_Match_Results_since_2005_match_English.pdf

 

Where are those stats? I though it was pretty good. This is what I got from the CaRMS forum:

 

2013 trying again in 2014: 30/35 matched (86%)

2014 trying again in 2015: 34/41 matched (83%)

2015 trying again in 2016: 22/28 matched (79%)

 

I mean, I would have to back up the second time around because I would want a guaranteed match so I would rank many many family programs as well. But - 79-86% is far from abysmal for unmatched applicants trying again! 

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Sorry for multiple post, that's the stat for 2016

http://www.carms.ca/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Table_1_Summary_of_Match_Results_English.pdf

So out of 130 unmatched applicants from 2015 participating in the 2016 match, 58 people were not matched in the subsequent year. This gives the match success of 55%.

It's excruciating to not match to CaRMS for 2 times and perhaps more, who knows?

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Sorry for multiple post, that's the stat for 2016

http://www.carms.ca/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Table_1_Summary_of_Match_Results_English.pdf

So out of 130 unmatched applicants from 2015 participating in the 2016 match, 58 people were not matched in the subsequent year. This gives the match success of 55%.

It's excruciating to not match to CaRMS for 2 times and perhaps more, who knows?

 

Hmm that is a SUPER confusing chart. I think also - its "prior graduates" which is 2015, 2014, 2013, etc - so that number is inflated. 

 

Here's what I see - this is the CaRMS forum. Scroll to the slide 56 - in the 2nd round, 55 of the unmatched found a spot. 39 remained unmatched. Out of those, 10 took an "unknown journey" that no one knows about. The other 28 went into the first round of the 2016 match - out of those, 22 matched. 6 didn't match in the first round.

 

http://www.carms.ca/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/2016-CaRMS-Forum-Data-Deck_FINAL_EN.pdf 

 

But I agree - 2nd time around is FAR FAR from ideal.

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The data on matching to CaRMS the 2nd time round is super heterogeneous that you can't take the data at its face value. You have people who applied to competitive specialties, didn't match for reasons beyond their control and reapplying to those same specialties. You have others who were overly selective on location and didn't match for that reason. You also have people who are just not good candidates because of personal issues (i.e. arrogance). In addition, some will backup and some won't. You have people who never applied and took a research year or an extra year or took a year off for personal reasons etc. These are all very diverse populations and will have wildly varying match rates. 

 

Often, the reason for a low match rate the 2nd time applying is because if a program didn't want you the 1st year due to personal reasons (i.e., not due to your resume) they probably won't want you the next year. Every year there's a new crop of competitive applicants to compete with and only in a few select fields will having a great personality, strong interest in the field but a slightly lacklustre resume sink you if you applied broadly. Those are the only kind of people who could use an extra year to build up their resume before reapplying and the only field where this comes to mind is ophthalmology. 

 

In general, a change of mind last minute with a good reason and demonstrable passion for the field will get you in. Remember, these programs are training you to become a specialist in their field, they aren't expected a specialist the day you enter those doors. Someone teachable and trainable is much more important to them than someone who has a bit of a head start in the knowledge department. 

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