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Why Don't French Schools Use The P/f System?


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Hi, I don't understand why french schools don't use the P/F system? It seems to reduce a lot of stress and decrease competition/increase teamwork... What is the advantage of using the grading system?

 

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Last I heard, FMEQ was working on demanding P/F in french schools! In my university, for nutrition we were still grading internships and not for any sound reason, so I organized general assemblies and petitioned to ask the direction to change the internships. When I finished my internships, I met the director a cocktail and got told they finally changed their evaluation methods for P/F starting probably next year if they get approved. 

 

So I dont think there is a particular reason for the grading system except it has been the status quo for so long and the administration have a hard time imagining P/F system. A bit of lobbying may be all it takes! I also heard it might be helpful for CARMs because some committees consider it gives them a better insight on your performance and thus it can make you more competitive if you have a good grade than simply having P/F. 

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sherbrooke's clerkship will be pass/fail starting from next year ! 

 

But there will still be comments? What does the clerkships being pass/fail change?

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It will be good to get everything on the same footing if you are going that way. We certainly do use the grade information if it is available which creates a two tier system - not exactly fair. 

 

When assessing a student's file that includes grades (ie: francophone medical students), what's the threshold where it becomes an advantage or a disadvantage (ie: what do you consider to be average)?

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When assessing a student's file that includes grades (ie: francophone medical students), what's the threshold where it becomes an advantage or a disadvantage (ie: what do you consider to be average)?

 

that is the problem - it is completely up to the program/reviewer

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