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  1. 12 points
    Just wanted to point out that in order to "choose money over medicine", one would have to be accepted into medical school first. You can't truly choose between two options if you are only offered one option.
  2. 8 points
    I seriously don't think anyone on this forum believes you are legit. You reek of bs and from what you wrote you have a nearly non-existent understanding of the healthcare landscape. Prob some high schooler with a ton of free time on hands or a classic example of delusional coping mechanism on display.
  3. 6 points
    Many years ago when I graduated from finance, I thought just like you, thinking money would bring me happiness and success. It was a naive and immature thought. Money can’t buy you everything. I hope you find your way.
  4. 5 points
    Althought I agree that none of us should be insulting each other here as this is a thread and we're all mature (I hope), you do have to understand you're going to get criticism based off the points you made lol, such as medicine being a dying field, money, your application being competitive, etc. It seems as if you were interested more in money than actually helping people. People aren't getting healthier. Just because the average lifespan is getting higher and higher in developed countries doesn't mean people are healthier. Doctors will always be needed. I for one know that both Canada and US will be needing an influx of internal medical physicians. India alone needs 10 million medical professionals in the next 10 years. It's a profession you go into to help people. It's a profession not everyone can do but that's okay! It really isn't for everyone and there's nothing wrong with that at all. Secondly, your application, although impressive, doesn't mean it's that impressive for medicine. Just because you have research, sports, and business doesn't mean much for medical schools lol. I had a friend who almost made it into the NBA, dabbed in entrepreneurship by being an app developer, 4.0 GPA, 520 MCAT, and had 5 publications by 4th year. He got rejected 2 years in a row from almost every school in Canada. You need to diversify your application more (more charity work, volunteering, giving back to community) to show more character. I don't want to come off as being judgemental but just by reading your giant message (I read it all haha) I picture you as a cocky and arrogant person in real life for some reason. That may be just me but that's definitely not the quality you would want out of a doctor. Regardless, I wish you all the success in your life and thank you for trying to send a positive message to people who aren't striving their medical goals too! :)
  5. 5 points
    wow I hope this is a troll post because otherwise you are seriously a narcissistic douche. Very glad you decided to stay far away from medicine.
  6. 4 points

    Realignment of Doctor's Income

    That’s one of the difficulties of the situation. As someone in one of the lower paid specialties (psychiatry, a 0.86 based on CANDI score) why would I want to support a group that I suspect wants to maintain the status quo of having such significant disparities in pay between different medical specialties? I certainly wouldn’t feel that a specialty interest group would see the interests of my specialty as being a priority despite the fact that we are one of the largest based on numbers. The group being formed by a radiologist makes me suspect the intentions of this right from the get-go. This current malignant environment has existed between the MOHLTC and Ontario physicians for at least the past 8 years (I was a pre-clerk when our previous contract ended and things started to escalate in ugliness between the OMA and MOHLTC). It’s been very difficult to have any meaningful decision about rebalancing/realitivity for this exact reason, when the OMA finally started to talk about making concrete changes based on realitivity, it caused splinters within groups of doctors which now weakens our overall bargining power. It’s also an understanding of mine that the grassroots organization Concerned Doctors Ontario was largely funded by and driven by the high paid specialties. Unfortunately at the end of the day money usually talks louder than everything else. We like to consider our physicians at large to be much more altruistic than we are. Especially coming from a speciality which is often treated with hostility and disrespect (at least at academic centres, but I also suspect in the community setting to a lesser degree) from other medical specialties, it makes it a bit harder to find a lot of sympathy for some of these groups being targeted by realitivity changes. I really don’t feel that the current remuneration is reflective of the hours worked and responsibility that some specialties have. One group in particular that I do feel bad for is pediatrics. IMO they are certainly undervalued financially (compared to other physicians at least) for the responsibility that they carry.
  7. 4 points

    How to do well on clerkship?

    I agree with the previous answers: it's important to take time to protect yourself and connect with friends/family. However, for my answers below, I'm going to answer you assuming you want a competitive specialty and that you are on a rotation where you want to work extra hard because you want a strong LOR. Please don't stress out if you just want to be able to pass the rotation or if you want a specialty with low competitiveness since being a reasonable person can often get you a pass by itself. 1) With studying there should be 2 goals. The first is understanding the clinical knowledge well enough to function well while on service/in clinic (e.g. having a good DDx & approach for common presenting complaints, learning about how the diseases you typically encounter are treated). The second goal is gaining the knowledge to be able to answer pimp questions and pass the rotation exam (usually some clinical knowledge but more often pathophysiology of disease, common associated condition, complications of treatment, random 'fun' facts.). On my IM rotation, during the day I would read up on patients and their conditions if time permitted--usually this totaled to less than 1 hour on average since the service was busy. In terms of clinical resources, I found DynaMed the most helpful, with occasional references to UpToDate when I needed further clarification. After work I would study 1-3 hours using an assortment of resources, i.e. OnlineMedEd lectures, Boards & Beyond lectures, CaseFiles/UWorld Step 2 CK question bank, and clinical resources (DynaMed/Medscape/UpToDate) as needed. With clinical resources, keep in mind that there's a ton of knowledge beyond the scope needed to impress as a medical student--you will have to be the judge of what you need to know, what you should know, and what you don't need to know. If I felt my clinical knowledge was weaker, I would focus on reading up via clinical resources, as well as going through OnlineMedEd lectures and CaseFiles. If I felt my general/science knowledge was weaker, I would focus on Boards & Beyond lectures and UWorld. Occasionally I had to sit down and draw out flowcharts or take notes, but 95%+ of my learning was just listening to lectures on 1.5-2x, going through cases/questions, and reading the occasional Medscape or DynaMed page. For Peds I would focus on using pedscases.com as your primary clinical lecture base. For Surgery I would probably pick up whatever textbook is recommended by your upper years. Many preceptors and residents commented on my strong knowledge and my evaluations reflected that. 2) & 3) 80% soft skills & social awareness, 20% medical knowledge. Intrepid86 and freewheeler put it best.
  8. 4 points
  9. 4 points
    @canucks_14While I can respect your opinion I have to dispel a misconception you spread here that has the potential to be and detrimental to future community health. This point does not accurately reflect the common overlaps between medicine, public health, and community health. When we think of health care, it is easy to immediately think of treatment as the primary goal. On the spectrum of health care however involves prevention (which encompasses an understanding of risk factors, epidemiology of disease, and their consequences), treatment (which also includes preventing further complications for patients with an illness), and end-of-life care. In your example, you discussed your interest in being a CV surgeon. Setting aside the obvious that there's many other specialties to consider, you have missed the point that prevention in health care done by physicians exist also in medical care. If a patient were to have diabetes, it's important to help manage their condition to prevent future complications. For those without diabetes but does have risk factors, it's important for a physician to stratify and begin the necessary screening process so that the condition can be prevented to the highest probability. The work of a physician goes so far beyond diagnosing someone who is unwell and giving them treatment. I would say one of the best things I've gained from my experience so far is that I can play a role along the entire spectrum of health (a term which is difficult to define in itself.) In your example, you discussed how people are "getting so healthy nowadays." From the outside perspective it may appear that way. We have numerous vaccinations available to protect us against numerous infectious diseases. We have systems in place to help us with respect to environmental health. We have an infrastructure in place that supports those who need medical care and can receive it (relatively) free of charge. Canada (along with numerous countries) have benefited from this significantly and that's something that as a country we should be proud of. Let me ask you then... how do you think we've got to this point? You've mentioned the importance of research, which I definitely agree with and fully support. Who is the one that helps administer the treatments? Who is out there investigating the cause of illness? Who keeps the hospitals running as physicians continue to retire and the next generation of physicians take up the mantle? As someone who is invested in public health and preventative medicine (a specialty that I'm considering for CaRMS), I like to joke that when public health and health care is working, people have the luxury of saying "there's no problem." We see this already with decreasing vaccination trends as people have forgotten the terrors of the diseases that we vaccinate against. Yet, to keep the system going, we need thousands of people (including physicians) to keep the system running and address a shift in the obstacles that face our health system and new contemporary issues that will arise. Ex. We may need more psychiatrists and people in the mental health system as cannabis use increases (among many other things we may need....) Ex. We always need physicians (rural or urban) to help address the determinants of health among First Nations communities Ex. We will need physicians still to help in addressing the difficulties of addictions medicine and management Ex. We will need physicians to address the top non-communicable diseases that are still rampant in Canada (Cardiovascular disease, obesity, diabetes, cancers), all of which has increased in their disease burden as a consequence to the changing demographic of our society (higher average age, less decreased acute conditions causing immediate death, etc) Ex. There's still a shortage of family physicians throughout the country despite the apparent "health" our society suggests. Ex. We need physicians for involvement in occupational injuries and prevention (ex. family physicians, occupational medicine physicians, orthopedic surgeons, physiatrists, etc) Ex. We will need physicians to be involved in the aging population and increasing burden in geriatrics (which I understand is something you don't want to do and that's fine) Ex. We will need physicians that wish to play a bigger role in the continued preservation and improvement to our health and further develop the foundations of health care and address certain causes of disease (specifically, public health physicians/medical officers of health) As you can see, despite your assertion there's still so much work to be done for physicians. Despite how apparently healthy our community is, the shifts in disease burden and demographics mean that new problems will arise and we have a responsibility to do our part in addressing these difficult issues. I won't speak specifically about compensation/pay as I find people have their own preferences for this but as a whole... physicians in general (regardless of what they do) don't live in a box down the street. There's still so much work to be done and as physicians we have the opportunity to play in all levels, from an individual to global level of care. There's never a shortage of work to improve the collective health of our society. I can tell you would likely agree with the preventative aspect as you've touched on that in point 3, but... This is a point I personally dislike not because it don't acknowledge the importance of research and novel treatment + prevention strategies in health care, but how it devalues the work done by others. This is actually an unfortunately common theme in health care. Specialists look down on family doctors. Doctors looking down on nurses. Surgeons looking down on other specialties, etc. I still remember a situation where in my interactions with another resident who pursued a specialty more focused on prevention that her internal medicine colleagues asked "why was she wasting her talents to do [specialty]?" (as if any of the specialties are a "waste of time"). All roles are important at different stages of the health care spectrum. Just because research is arguably at the forefront as they develop the treatments we use today doesn't mean we discredit the "caretaker role" (which is very distasteful to to implicitly disrespect like in the post). The point also discredits the difficulties physicians have in generating a differential diagnosis with often limited information and the complexities associated with patient care..... there's hundreds of things that can be wrong with someone that has "Abdominal pain" that it takes skill to integrate the information you learn to apply it in an arguably uncertain setting. Furthermore, just because you have the knowledge and developed the treatment, doesn't detract from the skill that's required to resuscitate patients in acute care settings (like EM, ICU/critical care, surgery, etc). I would be honored to be a "caretaker" just as much as I would be honored being a researcher developing the newest treatments. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- At the end of the day your choice is your choice but I hope for others reading this post that you don't discount the amazing things we can do for not only our future patients but also for society as a whole if we put our minds to it. Best wishes everyone and have a good day, - G
  10. 3 points
    This thread is getting nowhere. I find it a bit too inflammatory. Therefore, I will lock it. Good luck in your future endeavors canuck!
  11. 3 points
    Hey everyone! Big congrats to everyone who received an interview for Dal this year! A few of us current Med 1s have setup a facebook page (Ask a Med Student - Dalhousie Class of 2023) for you and anyone else interested to ask questions you may have, get some tips on the MMI, and connect with current students + applicants. We've posted some info in the group about the structure of the MMI and some prep material and will be adding more info as it becomes available. We also have an email account: askadalmedstudent@gmail.com if you feel more comfortable sending us direct messages. Good luck and we can't wait to meet you guys in November!! - AAMS Reps
  12. 3 points

    Realignment of Doctor's Income

    Perhaps negotiations would proceed more amicably after a joint..
  13. 3 points

    How to do well on clerkship?

    Students often worry about their level of knowledge prior to clerkship and are eager to try and read as much as possible in order to "succeed." Clerkship in my experience is a lot more about developing your diagnostic thinking, approach to common presentations, and ability to formulate appropriate management plans. A significant portion of it also comes down to doing your preceptors' work: ex. writing referral letters, admission orders, discharge summaries, dictations, etc. and doing it correctly. It really comes down to showing up on time, trying your best, and being respectful towards everyone you encounter. It can be very anxiety-provoking as you are often trying to adjust to different preceptor expectations, figure out different wards, etc. but as long as you do the aforementioned things, you'll be good and just need to trust in yourself and the process. Clerkship is one of those things where you "just have to go through the fire" so to speak, but it really isn't that bad. There are many times where it sucks @ss, but you will survive it. Definitely do your best to remain connected to activities that promote your personal well-being, and to spend time with family/friends, especially people outside of medicine. -- 1. How did you review/ study? Read inbetween cases when possible. Do some reading at night time/energy permitting. Case files is really helpful. 2. How to perform well in clerkship? See above. 3. How to be a good clerk? See above.
  14. 3 points
    The questions were more about what religion you are, how much money your parents make and stuff like that.
  15. 3 points

    Advice to first year undergrad?

    lol. Don't forget start your own business at age 23 making 200k a year.
  16. 3 points
    Medicine has its pros and cons. Finance has its pros and cons.We can not simply take one point of view in things - whether its OP's own views or someone elses. Every viewpoint always has their own underlying reasons, and it's through understanding multiple viewpoints is when we can start tackling the main problem. Everyone is entitled to their own opinions - but personally, no one should ever be ridiculed on their thoughts. I enjoy good arguments and debates, mediating through conflicts and coherently finding an agreeable answer (which is what I personally find rewarding). What I do not enjoy is personal attacks that deviate from the argument itself - being on premed101 for a few years, I noticed personal attacks seem to be having more of an occurrence lately over the specific argument at hand. Please stay a bit more friendly people, and for those who already are - keep it up :).
  17. 3 points
    Especially with our ever increasing aging population, increasing morbidity and mortality that follow with it. And mental illness being such a big thing in young people. Medicine is definitely not in decline. But I see what you are trying to do, especially in being proud of yourself even if Medicine isn’t for you. That’s perfectly okay, getting medicine shouldn’t be seen as a success or failure if you don’t. Just one of many paths to go. Best of luck in your path.
  18. 3 points
    I found your post to be very interesting, and respect your opinions. That being said, I disagree with some of the things you said. I don't see medicine as a "dying" career. Also, what are you doing now? Are you running your own business, still in school, or are you a researcher? And where do you see yourself in the next 5-10 years?
  19. 3 points
  20. 3 points
    Hi briannaxox, as you mentioned we are all allowed our opinions. However, attacking other people (even indirectly) who are clearly struggling, suffering, and asking for help by calling them "weak-minded" is, in my opinion, unhelpful. It also reinforces this individual's belief that other undergrads chasing entry to medicine are mean. Again, if I could add my opinion, there is no place for mean and unempathetic people in medicine, either. I will remind everyone that this forum is not as anonymous as you think. Regarding the original poster, Recusitatorwannabe, I will echo others' suggestions to not lose hope and to please take care of yourself. When you are struggling as much as you sound like you currently are, it will be harder to focus, study, retain things you learn and hence be unable to demonstrate your abilities on assignments and exams. Maybe you need a tutor, maybe you need psychological or medical supports, maybe you need to change programs/schools if you don't like what you're studying, or maybe you need to take a break from school to get things under control and to build your confidence and self-efficacy. Should you eventually end up in medicine, times like this will come again and it will be important to know how to navigate hard times. You have already demonstrated significant tenacity several times in your life--you can navigate and survive this too.
  21. 3 points
    Thank you for sharing your story. It must have taken a lot of courage to post it and I am listening. You’ve been through so much and I can’t imagine how difficult it must be for you right now, but I truly commend your resilience. The fact that you are here today and able to post your story, shows what a strong and amazing person you are. In undergrad, we meet many intelligent, seemingly perfect people; however, in reality, no one is truly perfect. Everyone has their own anxieties and flaws that they deal with. We think others are perfect because we can’t read what they’re really thinking in their minds. My best advice for you is to stop worrying about what others are doing. I know it’s hard, but please try. Statistically, medical schools do tend to favor applicants with higher GPAs; however, that’s only one aspect of the application. I know many students who were able to gain entrance with low GPAs by excelling in other parts of their application. Things like the MCAT, extracurriculars, jobs, Casper, volunteer activities, sports , letters of recommendation, and etc., can all make an impact on your application. Medical schools are looking for people who can become good doctors and not people who can just score well on exams. I am a medical student and I didn’t have a 90% average in undergrad. I am definitely not perfect and I have made many mistakes throughout my life. I have anxieties about school and I worry a lot. However, after talking with many of my classmates, most medical students (and students in general) in fact feel the same way. And that’s okay. I also got into medical school quite late —at the age of 28. So don’t worry about having to get to medical school within a certain standardized time frame or age. I understand being delayed one year in grade 10 may seem like a setback, but the path to medicine is different for everyone. Do what is best for you. If medicine is truly your dream, definitely do not give up. Focus on your strengths and improve your weaknesses. Do things that have meaning for you and things that make you happy. Spend time with the ones you love and take care of your health. Lastly, please remember to Give yourself more love. Give yourself more kindess. Give yourself more forgiveness. I wish you all the best and please take care. Feel free to pm if you need to talk.
  22. 2 points
    I think we should take it easy on this guy/let this die. I had a patient today that was eerily similar. Really felt for him, and then remembered this thread.
  23. 2 points

    CASPer done...thoughts?

    So it seems that they recycle questions... I got a question this year that I got in a previous year (4th time now). As always, I ran out of time to correct grammar, or finish a sentence. I have 3-4 sentences that ended early li (like that.)
  24. 2 points

    Home School Advantage

    Hey I have participated in CaRMS selection for UofT Family Medicine. Unfortunately, the selection committee does not give any merits if you are a UofT med student. Before the interview, they send out the list of potential candidates, to make sure that there is no conflict of interest. The interview is blinded, i.e, I don't know where you did your medical school, where you did your electives, etc. They do this on purpose to prevent the interviews being biased (giving more points to a candidate from UofT, or having done substantial FM electives). For the file selection, you do get more points if you have done FM electives or a broad range of electives. The selection process is very transparent, please PM me for more details!
  25. 2 points


    None of us are perfect, we are all works in progress. Back in the day as a premed, I was very shy, which was a serious weakness. I had to work on it. I put myself into uncomfortable situations that forced me to grow and develop. I can hardly remember that shy girl, lol. Today, you have a “weakness” that you are working on. Think. State what it is and how you are working on it.