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    People obsess over what electives they took, and how many specialties they can apply to, with who they are doing research etc. and how it all gets interpreted by the selection committee. All of these factors are absolutely dwarfed by the monstrous magnitude of one singular factor: that is, someone on the selection committee really liking you. You could have done 20 weeks of psych, and 2 weeks of plastics, and if you have one guy on the plastics selection committee that will go on the bat for you, not only are you guaranteed an interview, but you have a higher chance of matching to plastic than someone who has done 10 publications in the field. I have seen this scenario over and over- if you don't believe me, ask the residents in each competitive specialty what they did in their third and fourth year. How do they get to like you, and be your champion? It helps if have someone on the inside who is a family member, or buddy of your mom or dad, or someone that lives in your own hood, or has early male pattern baldness like yourself, or finds you sexually attractive, or likes that you are ugly so you don't threaten their self-esteem, or maybe plays the trumpet like you, likes the sound of your voice, likes that you talk a lot, or likes that you don't, etc. etc. etc., and a million other unmodifiable factors that are pure luck and circumstance. I'm telling you this because I have personally been on both sides of this. A selection member of a surgical specialty asked me to apply and told me point blank I would rank me top 3, and I had done nothing but be a friend of a friend. For fuck's sake, my suturing skills were poorer than the psychiatry gunner on rotation with me. (I didn't want to do that specialty so I didn't apply). Another PD point blank told me she would not write me a letter of reference, after I was basically running half her clinic independently and demonstrated I could manage her patients at an R2 level. Why? She could not even remember my name when I asked for the letter. Another selection member wrote me a glowing letter that got me an interview at the country's most competitive program for that specialty, but I didn't even get an interview at my own home university. Why? Because on the first day we talked about our love of indie music, and didn't stop talking about it for next 4 weeks. On one of the interviews, the interviewers sounded shocked I had actually done an elective with them just three months prior. They had no recollection of me whatsoever. That program was my number 1 rank. I didn't match to it, but my classmate who had it as one of his bottom choices, matched to it. At the end I matched to my second choice program, but had not even done an elective there. And you can guess why I got in. This is why you have to hedge your bets, and pay attention to the stats. If you apply to FM, Internal, and Psych, across the country, you are guaranteed a match. Based on the stats, it is nearly impossible not to match - short of showing up naked at the interviews. But if you are applying to Derm/Plastics/Emerg, etc, you better do a very realistic appraisal of yourself: do you have someone to be your champion on the inside? No amount of studying, elective time, volunteer call hours, and publications will make up for this. If you bust your ass, maybe you can make it to the interview. But from those 30 they are interviewing for the 1 spot, they will pick the one they like in their gut over the forgettable contender, no matter if the latter can clinically perform at a level of an R2. Which brings me to my last point, if you are an MSI1/MSI2/MSI3 reading this, find a back-up and learn to LOVE it. Better yet, stop calling it back-up. It is your parallel plan. How on earth do people do 4 years of med-school, and decided at the end of it, they rather risk going unmatched than do something like FM or IM? It is all a matter of finding a charismatic mentor in any field to convince you that at the end, the work becomes the same crap - the impact and meaning is what you bring into it, not the speciality. It is idiotic for a urology gunner to think 10 years from now, doing their billionth DRE in a row of their 70th patient of the day is somehow more glamorous than consulting a mother who just got the news that they son has autism. It is all medicine.
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    I am in the MDCM/PhD pool, but I got my acceptance today! Good luck to all!
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    It is most certainly a possible option to still get your choice next year. You will hear many things. Some physicians will tell you that going unmatched in this new era means nothing, they don't care about it due to the current issues. Some older physicians will tell you however that you are damaged goods. It hurts. You will also realize however when talking to alot of these physicians that they have really no idea how the new match system works or how you should rank programs. I had many people tell me not to waste my time with my top choice this year, Radiology, as it was too competitive. If you truly know how the match works you know that ranking long shots above realistic expectations WILL NOT HURT YOU. I'm glad I did not listen and tried to not get discouraged as I matched to Radiology this year. Your biggest support will be a mentor in the field, if you don't already have one find one quick, preferably at your home school. I also heard alot that I should just "settle" and do Family medicine, the funny thing is that I received zero interviews as I applied across the country for Family. Family is a great choice but I knew I wouldn't be happy doing it and no one wanted me for it. Despite references and electives in family the climate for the match has changed, it's a different world and it's alot about luck and who you know. It's an unfortunate situation. Please keep your head up high, it will be the worst year but you'll get through it. Now that I've matched my wife and I plan to do some advocacy work. No one wants to rock the boat while waiting to match the next year, don't. Hopefully those of us that matched after not and our colleagues can push for the change that's needed. For reference, my school offered minimal support so I could not do electives. I continued working with a mentor in research, attempted to do a Masters which funding flopped on and needed to support my wife and kids. You will have the worst time getting a job as an MD. I eventually found employment but they threatened to fire me if I went to residency interviews... I quit. I'm very happy now but still looking for ways to make some money until July. Sold my car, left our rental to live with family. LOC maxed. It's been a heck of a year. Lean on family and friends for support. Good luck and God Bless.
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    Just wanted to write a post to you guys because a year ago I was in your shoes and I know how it feels. Here is my best advice based on what I went through, feel free to contact me if you ever have any questions: - First off, it sucks. I know it does. This is a big day and a lot of people are happy and even more are pretending to be. Please know that it is always better to be unmatched than to be stuck somewhere you would hate. - Allow yourself a few days of being sad/pissed and then starting getting on it. Is there anything you like in round 2? If so apply and start calling people. If not start forming a plan. Meet with PGME and make sure there are no red flags. Hopefully this was just a case of being screwed by carms. - The first big choice you have to make is whether to graduate or (if possible) take an extra year as a student. Taking the extra year as a student is great because you can still do electives. I chose to graduate, but because I liked path/rads doing observerships was not different than electives. If you like patient based specialties delaying graduating may be best. - If you do graduate get an educational license and start shadowing/observing as much as possible. Do a month at one place, a month at another etc. Always look to do research. I committed to a few research projects and they were big for me. Also, please realize your best chance next year is your home school. Definitely. So spend time with them. - There is actually way less time than you think. Interviews are out in November, thats not a lot of time. You have two goals: Observerships/electives and research. Finally, realize its not the end of the world. Not matching isn't like it was 5 years ago. There are record numbers of unmatched people and its growing. Its likely a problem with the system and not with you. I just matched to my number 1 pick and taking this year was 100% worth it, wouldn't change a thing :).
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    I tend to try to have a very critical and realistic approach towards my application. I feel confident about myself, very proud of what I presented and wouldn't change anything in my interview performance. On the other end, I feel that hoping for the best might create expectations. Therefore, as hard as it may be, I have convinced myself that I will be rejected. My current focus is based on that assumption and is targeted to improving myself for next year. No matter what parameters are measured, this process is somewhat 'random'. I firmly believe that a rejection is not correlated to an inability to be an excellent physician. That is as true for the pre-interview selection as it is for post-interview results. It is a multi-factorial process and only tiny differences separate us all. A rejection is just based on an impersonal ranking ; it doesn't represent you. There is no 'injustice' and I won't accept to 'feel sorry for myself'. Think about it : every year, someone is #1 on the waitlist and doesn't get in. I know it might not be the most optimistic way of looking at things but... If you trust your gut, follow what's in your heart and work hard, you'll be happy. And eventually, you will make it. This year or next year. Best of luck and may you all have positive results
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    First time posting on this thread, but I have been following it since it was created. People often tell me to not go on premed101, but I have strangely found comfort in reading the posts here because it showed me how many of us are on the same ship and feeling the same things. So I thought I'd share some of my recent experiences. As the 'doomsday' gets closer, I wake up in the morning thinking back to each MMI station and what I could have done better. I find myself running through 4 scenarios: (i) ACCEPTED!, (ii) Good waitlist, (iii) Bad waitlist, and (iv) Rejected - each of which change the course of what I will do in the next few months to years. I have been pretty good at trying to distract myself by going to the gym or watching shows. But as some of you mentioned earlier, this doesn't distract me completely from calculating the odds; I think I might have learned more stats in this last month than in my 2nd year course. That said, its important to also keep in mind the factor of luck involved here. During my interview day, I met some amazing people all of whom had super stellar stats and ECs, not to mention, incredible personalities! As I left the interview building, I couldn't help but wish that we end up as classmates next year. My guess is that there will probably be very minute differences separating candidates from one another. So, hang in there fellow pre-meds, we are almost there - I wish everyone a good luck and hope that Monday brings great news!!
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    I just visited the admissions homepage and I believe this is new: "Final decisions for the M.D.,C.M. program will be released: The week of March 26, 2018. Exceptionally, M.D.,C.M. & PhD Candidates, and M.D.,C.M. for IMGs(4-year) candidates will be notified March 19th, 2018." It seems that there are no plans for early decisions this year. Just posting this here so that you folks don't waste a whole day refreshing Minerva on Monday! We're nearly there, and going into the last week I want to wish everyone the best of luck I agree with @HoopDreams that, in most cases, a rejection says nothing about your potential as a physician. When close to 300 competent individuals are pitted against each other, the difference between the successful and the unsuccessful candidate is indeed marginal, and luck inevitably will play a big role in the outcome. But you will all eventually make it, may it be this year or the next, or the one after that. More importantly, while we should all appreciate how much we want this acceptance as a sign of our conviction for choosing this field, we should also realize that medicine is not the end all be all, even if it might feel this way. Be excited for what the rest of the year holds regardless of what happens on the 26th. Nothing is ever worth putting life on hold for.
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    I feel like a lot of the notions you are discussing have a legitimate basis if you only look at selected articles recently published in the media. The decision is yours but it should be taken with the right information interpreted in the right context. Let me try to address some of the issues. 1 - Doctors in Quebec are asking for lower pay. Specialists have been given a raise recently. In fact, it's not totally a raise. They were simply given a deal to be paid for having accepted lower salaries in the previous years. That deal was already done a few years ago. All the government did was respect the deal. But in the media, that was like a lottery ticket to write articles with scandalous titles. In response to that media crisis, some organizations that are not representing the majority of the physicians, have asked for a lower salary because they believe that the money could be invested elsewhere. That was an unusual move, not because they were doctors. Just because no professional group asks for a lower raise while inflation is occurring. And the media picked it up. Bottom line : There is media bashing about doctors. Some groups have expressed themselves for a raise, others against it. Healthy democracy. 2 - Residents at McGill are on strike. Just like any professional group, residents negotiate with their employers regarding their salaries, benefits, etc. Because they were not satisfied with the conditions and negotiations, they have voted for a strike. This happens every day in the corporate world. A strike does not mean that you are at home. Some measures include refusing the accomplish certain non-critials acts (eg. teaching). Bottom line : Employees that were trying to improve their working conditions voted a strike. 3- McGill CaRMS match rate is pretty low That only demonstrates that McGill students tend to apply to very competitive residencies that lead them to a higher non-match rate. The rate is nothing if you can't take it into the context. Let's say I open University ABC and I recruit candidates that are strongly interested by family medicine. When CaRMS day comes, they will tend to apply to family medicine and that specialty is known to have a higher acceptance rate. Now my friend decides to open University XYZ and he only focuses on candidates that have a surgical interest. Also, his students don't apply to any 'back-up' specialty. When CaRMS comes, his students will have a lower match rate. Bottom line : CaRMS match rates are only an indicator of the competitiveness of the programs the students have applied to. 4 - I have to learn French by third year to do well in clerkship French is a political and sensitive issue in Québec. Montréal is a bilingual city so it would be a lie to say that a minimal French won't help you out. I see this as an opportunity rather than a challenge. You won't be asked to read out Sartre or Camus here. Be functional. And by living in Montréal during two full years, meeting new people, participating in activities, you will learn it without even realizing. Don't forget that it is true for almost any Montréaler. So your colleagues, the patients and the staff will also be somewhat bilingual and they will adapt to you. Bottom line : You have the opportunity to learn functional French. 5 - I have to get reference letters to match to CaRMS? McGill did not create CaRMS. I am not sure about what particular aspect you are discussing but the admission criteria for specialties are made by the program. As a note, I only know of a few programs (4) in Canada that don't require reference letters for CaRMS. Bottom line : The majority of post-medical programs require reference letters, no matter where you go. Again, my goal is not to make McGill look better. But I believe you should take your decision based on the right information. Good luck !
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    Congrats to those who were invited! We’re all really looking forward to meet you. If you have any general questions about the procedure of the interview weekend, quote me in this thread and I’ll publicly respond when I can
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    Je l'ai pas feel ce test... C'est plus que dommage qu'on ne peut pas avoir notre note au moins. Bon, c'est fait pour éliminer le plus de monde possible avec le moins d'effort possible. Je trouve que les entrevues old school restent la meilleure option afin d'évaluer si une personne est un bon match pour le programme. Autre chose, c'est que les gens comme moi qui préfèrent de prendre des notes à la main en classe par exemple se trouvent désavantagés face au test qui requiert d'avoir un bon typing speed à l'ordi (même si mon typing speed est correct, il aurait pu être encore meilleur si j'utilisais mon ordi all day every day en classe comme le font 90% des gens de mes cours)... ce que je veux dire par le problème avec le typing speed, c'est qu'il y a des déterminants hors de notre contrôle et que si une personne avec un gros bon sens avec un typing speed bas à moyen va être FAITE. En plus, que son poids soit de 40% pour plusieurs programmes à l'UdeM, c'est ridicule... ça équivaut almost à la moitié de vos efforts à l'université que vous avez mis pendant des années (c'est mieux s'ils mettent un % pour le CV et 10 à 20 % pour le casper.. là ça peut faire du sens). Anyways, je sais que le fait de hate là dessus ne change rien, mais toute cette affaire là avec le manque de transparence, c'est frustrant.
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    Well, that entirely depends upon your practice. A good chunk of my patients I would consider to be not healthy. Obesity and obesity-related conditions plague the general population. I can agree with you though that most of my patients are of minimal acuity, i.e., they are not on the verge of serious complications and death at that instant in time, but I still see 10-20 patients a week I would consider high acuity, and many patients who are just a Big Mac away from an MI. Physical procedures I am not entirely sure what you mean, but I still do a lot of procedures such as intra-articular injections, suturing, biopsies, wedge resections, and cautery. You have to recognise murmurs and pathological lung sounds, sure, but you don't necessarily need to know what specific disease entity correlates with a particular abnormal finding. If you can recognise that something is abnormal, then read up on what it could be or talk to a colleague. You have lots of tools, such as imaging, lab tests, or specialists to narrow down the specific diagnosis, but by the time you are done residency you should know when a finding is bad and warrants further investigation and when a finding is innocuous or inconsequential. You could refer them to a specialist, but like I said above you also have other things at your disposal such as imaging or other tests. An abnormal heart sound could always be checked with an echo or an ECG. A skin lesion can always be sent for a biopsy. These are things that you can do as a family physician and residency programs should be training you to be relatively autonomous within the scope of family medicine. It is important to recognise the limits of your knowledge and there's no shame in that, but I would say I am comfortable handling 95% of what comes through my office without needing to refer to a specialist. This can be challenging and not always obvious, that's true. I had an elderly patient once who came in with vague bilateral calf pain after hiking a few days prior, thought it was muscle strain, but ordered a d-dimer anyway because he had a prior history of clots. His Well's score was low. A few hours later he ended up in the ER with a PE. Seems like he did have a clot in one of his legs whereas the other leg was just a muscle strain. Sometimes you just can't know what is truly high acuity, but residency programs in family medicine do train you to recognise obvious high emergency situations. I still look things up a lot. I can't possibly know what to treat with for a guy who drank a bunch of dirty water in Nicaragua and ended up with a Blastocystis hominis infection. I mean, I know now, but for the most part my patients have appreciated after I told them I need to research more about their condition, or more about how to properly manage their kid's catch-up schedule for vaccines, than trying to fake knowledge you don't have, which is both dangerous and unethical.
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    This is exactly the kind of toxic attitude that is all too prevalent in medicine. There's more to life than just working, and medicine is ultimately just a job, yes a special one but still just a job. If someone wants to work 30 hours a week with no call that is absolutely their decision to make, there is no "supposed to work more than the average person."
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    I just got an email notification from University of Florida (one of those MCAT solicitors) and got quite a scare
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    Generally, yes they are there to answer the phone. But not to answer repetitive and unnecessary questions when a target date has been given. Real life setting: get a job interview, given date you’ll hear back to see if you got the job or not, you don’t call ahead of time asking when they’ll release it. Really good way to come off as annoying and impatient. Once a week goes by from the target date, that’s cause for concern and time for a call. Talking as a working professional. Now of course you’re anonymous in this case, still comes across the same though. It’ll come out when it comes out, be patient, and if the target date passes and still haven’t heard anything then it’s more appropriate to worry.
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    At my school, I can honestly say that the unmatched people were all great people, in no way weird or socially awkward. Yes you can use the argument that they haven't applied broadly enough but the reality was that many applied in family medicine as a parallel plan/backup ( however you want to call it), just perhaps not a huge number of programs . However, many people were simply not ranked by different family medicine programs after interviews (Dal and McGill with empty spots in the second round). I find it a bit ridiculous that all across the country, we are in dire need of family doctors, but some of these family medicine programs chose to not rank applicants who ranked family medicine? It simply does not make sense. What is that for in the end? Just to boost their own ego by rejecting people who had different areas of interests, who might have a different view of what family medicine is, or because FM was their backup? Why bother interviewing someone if never intended to rank these people anyways? Unless if a candidate has clearly red flags, why not rank them? It does not make any sense to me. I find the whole process to be very unfair towards applicants. Complete lack of transparency. -Gunning for competitive field A? --> all in your electives and run the risk of not being matched to FM/or any other backup --> split your electives and competitive field A will think you are not interested in their field and you are screwed too The whole system is honestly very archaic...
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    Good luck everyone! I remember it was definitely a stressful period in time. Regardless of the outcome, remember that you are still an awesome human being
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    They started sending out Med-P invite decisions today. It’s possible MDCM will have their decisions on Friday.
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    TIME STAMP: March 20 @ 4:47pm Result: Invite (absolute insanity....just absolute insanity....) Interview date: April 8 wGPA: 3.87 MCAT: met cutoffs but JUST barely (overall score is nothing impressive at all) ECs: Lots of music stuff (RCM for piano at high level, played music/led a band for my youth group for 5+ years, self-taught guitar, song writing but tbh nothing really to show for it). Majored in an allied health profession in undergrad so really tried to incorporate my clinical experiences as much as I could. ZERO research...zilch...nada...nothing. Thought for sure that would make me dead on arrival (in combination with my sub-par wGPA). Had a bit of typical premed stuff - hospital volunteering, tutoring etc... Also tried to include some of my hobbies - stuff you would NEVER expect to see on a professional application lol. When I showed my app to a friend he said "Bro are you sure you want to include that?" I literally tossed them in there because (1) Yes I'm passionate about them (2) I thought there was no way I'd get interviewed so might as well show "all of me." tl;dr - BELOW average imo (but I guess not the adcom's opinion lol) Essays: Spent way too many days thinking about them and not enough days writing them. In the end I'd say I was moderately content with them - some more than others. Year: 1 year post undergrad Geography: IP I cannot believe I got an interview. I really can't. I know its an interview and not an acceptance but still. I worked myself to death in undergrad and ended up still being (imo) no where near competitive for Canadian medical school admissions. So much self-doubt. So so so much of it. And yet here I am.
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    Alright boys and girls. I've spent the last two weeks or so on the UofT forum going crazy waiting for interview invite results. Just got my butt handed to me. On the bright side, now I can put ALL of my effort into freaking out about McGill results! Good timing too, with just over a week left until they are released. Please join me in my excitement. I bring with me memes!
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    I don't find any of these to be challenging aspects of family medicine. Most of my management is based on history, if you have a concerning undifferentiated finding, you can always get an echo, get a chest x-ray, or do a biopsy. In a community family medicine site, often you don't have the opportunity to refer due to limited resources. This gives you the opportunity and impetus to manage a lot on your own. In all the patient's I see in a week, I would say I refer less than 5% of the time, and even then would be a likely overestimate. Often the longitudinal relationship can benefit you in high stakes situations. I remember one patient walked in on 9L of O2 and looked terrible. I sent him home because he had a restrictive lung disease and no further management could be offered him. I was able to say this comfortably because of the longitudinal relationship we had with him. His family disagreed with me and sent him to the hospital. Well of course, someone who doesn't know this guy, is going to admit him to the ICU, begin workup of this idiopathic disease and he found himself with 3 organs severely damaged due to iatrogenic investigations/management, transported inbetween several hospitals for different management of the varying iatrogenic comorbidities, and I saw him in rehab a few weeks later with no difference to his management or diagnosis. Patients seem to not mind that I look things up, especially when I am open about it. Now, for the challenges I face in family medicine: 1) Being the coordinator of care. You are responsible for everything and often have to tie together poor communication from various health fields, records, notes etc. You also can't turf your patient back to family medicine when you're at a loss for what to do or when it doesn't fit your specialty's area of expertise 2) Diversity of knowledge required. The specialists I work with often have reductionist views of disease because they see things that are already worked up. You have to begin from the ground and consider so many various possiblities, choose the right tests without choosing too many, etc. You're often admonished for not having specialist expertise in every specialty. It takes a lot of work to find a balance 3) Chronic disease. Chronic disease can often be frustrating when patient's don't get better and you have to manage their investigations, tell them why they can't have another MRI or more opioids, and this can upset people 4) Benign disease. On the same spectrum, having to tell people why they don't need antibiotics for a small cough. It's also really easy to miss something severe at the same time. Anyone can manage a STEMI - there's a basic protocol for it. But that low risk chest pain that comes into your office with a few almost-red flags, deciding what to do there is where medicine gets very nuanced. That being said, you need to shadow some family doctors. It's a great field, but it's not for everyone.
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    I'm sure many of us had very different ideas of what medicine and our careers would be like at the time we applied compared to now, we are allowed to change our minds. And what an admission committee member wants to hear definitely is not what's best for each individual person as a whole. Some like you may want to work more, some want to work less. I have already seen far too many tired, on the verge of burning out residents and physicians thanks to the hours they have to work. I have also met physicians happily working 30 hours a week and dedicating the rest of their time to hobbies, raising a family, i.e. the things that for many people are what are most important to them, and are still able to provide quality care to their patients, and are still contributing a great deal to public service. We only get one life after all. Just because the medical school system places a limit on spots does not mean people are obligated to work a certain amount to pay back some kind of debt to society. Over an entire career the work a physician does, even working less than full time, will be more than enough to pay back the resources used to train them. Heck I think the system would be better off training more physicians with smaller workloads expected of them, we would have far greater happiness in the profession, likely far less burnout and mental health issues among physicians as well, but that's debatable.
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    Got mine 45 mins ago. for stats purposes: IP Non-trad (have a phd, no science background, way older that y'all and I have a kid) GPA was crap in first 2 years of undergrad then I dropped out, worked for 3 years, and went back getting all As through to a phd. Lots of work experience in shelters, women's centers, and non-profits internationally and in Canada. Lots of volunteer experience in harm reduction, anti-poverty, and a bunch of other stuff. MCAT was a hardcore squeaker at 500. Seriously people if i I can do it you all can. Never quit! It's my second time applying and last year I didn't even get an interview.
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    'My list of most popular/common places: -111 elizabeth st 4 min walk: closest condo building, a LOT of dental students here (me too lol), nice building, good amenities, more modern, has a lot of restaurants/coffee near by with longos (grocery store) literally connected to the building. more expensive (duh.) - motion 5min walk: connected to 111 elizabeth but is pure rental. nice place, popular choice, usually long waitlist. -633 bay 4 min walk: old building, larger units (so consider multiple room mates), good location but just kinda run down - 222 elm 6-7min walk: rental apartment, cheap (850 per person if in shared 2bdrm), infested with roaches... no AC. not recommended unless your budget is tight... -9T6 6-7min walk: moderately new/modern condo, pretty close by and a good choice too but usually not many listings. -222 simcoe and others along simcoe 8min walk: pretty new condo, modern, nice, expensive though. - college park/aura/the liberties (10-12min): couple of buildings all along bay, south of college area. kind of expensive, but close to the subway (underground access) and Metro grocery store. then around that 12-15min walk, there is murano, burano (nice, newer, more expensive) at college and bay. Some more buildings further north but gets kinda far. - grad house 25min walk: far, kinda expensive (950/mth from what i heard), loud and is kind college dorms. close to AC (the gym). - ZIP house (25-30min): its owned by the dental fraternity, but any gender can apply to live there, its really cheap (maybe 600-700 depending on the room), but cleanliness isnt great as parties are held there, so recommended for more party types. - another option is a house share, which is renting out one room in a large house with communal kitchen/living space near by chinatown. look on beverley street. rent ~800-1100. close to stores/restaurants in chinatown and 8-15min walk depending on where you are along the street. That's what I did in first year, which was EH OK depending on your housemates. The common areas was gross but I paid extra for my own washroom, so highly recommend that if you are doing houseshare. - consider buying if you can afford it too! For a pretty nice place on average, I'd say cost is around 900-1200 if you share and 1500-1600 for a bachelor, 1700+ for 1 bdrm. Hope that helps~
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    You can make as much or as little as you want in family medicine. The income average is pretty skewed by family physicians who only work part time since that is one of the benefits of family medicine: essentially being able to craft your own schedule. I work 6 days a week and I am at a very comfortable income level after overhead working 8 hours per day. if you want to make as much money as a specialist, then put in as many hours as most specialists, join a group practice where you're only paying 20-25% overhead rather than 30-35%, and use some of that brain power that got you through undergrad, med school, and residency to learn how to diversify your financial portfolio wisely.
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    Legend has it that the more you check your email, the faster it comes
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    Invited! Most likely declining in favour of UofT dentistry.. UofT's early acceptances lowkey blessssing the western interviewees
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    I spent time this morning doing USMLE psych questions (LMCC prep) with the med student on my service right now while we waited for my cases to start (I'm surgical staff at a community hospital). I guess thats how she is passing her time. I told her I'll give her a poor eval if she shows up on match day.
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    I think despite CSAs being Canadian PR/citizens, the responsibility of the government is not the same as the responsibility to CMGs. There simply aren't enough residency spots to accommodate every competent medical graduate in Canada. And if we don't have enough spots for everyone, why should CSAs get a spot at the expense of a competent CMG? If we didn't have a residency spot to give to our competent CMG, we shouldn't have had that medical school spot there in the first place, and I think that is the main issue. I also don't think legitimizing a pathway for people to bypass the difficulty of the admissions system in place by using money is the right way to go, either. It simply magnifies the SES imbalances that already exist in medical students. This pathway already exists for people willing to go to the US, extending it further worsens the problem. If a Canadian student wants to go to medical school and become a doctor, they should have to get in within the admissions system we have in place here: whether that means getting a better GPA, studying more for the MCAT, serving their community, or moving out of Ontario to live in a province that is under serviced. Immigrant physicians are a different story, and I think they should be classified differently from the Canadian student from a wealthy family that bypassed the required work to get into a Canadian medical school by going to Poland for 6 years after high school. It's not an issue of CSA physicians not being competent, it's about our duty to the students who we train with our taxes being able to get a license to practice at the end.
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    I've been following the thread the whole week and it brought me so many memories from a few years ago. I just checked here to see if answers had been made available today or not. Geez, I'm almost as frustrated as you are. Anyways, good luck Monday, folks. Hope your dreams come true. For those who won't get in, If you applying because Medicine is where your heart is, do not give up on your dreams. For those waitlisted, good luck. I hope the list will run down and you'll get your admission offer too. Have a nice weekend you all.
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    I wish all of those who've gone through this experience the best. I remember how hard it was for me personally despite it being years ago. If anyone wants to reach out to talk or need support let me know. - G
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    All we know is what med admissions office says: keep waiting until you hear. Your application is valid all the way til April 8th or whenever they send you a rejection letter which is probably the case for 99% ppl still waiting including myself. Also, please direct these comments to appropriate thread not this one. Not meaning to be picky but for people who are still waiting, any activity on invites/rejects thread causes a mini heart attack..
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    It's going to be a long two months... It's my first year applying, and this process is so long and so exhausting! All of us deserve a vacation in May regardless of the outcomes!
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    Seeing invites going out today, and not being one of them, knowing your rejection is coming soon
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    My bones have broken from how rattled they are
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    I think you’re missing the point. No one is trying to argue one is better than the other. All Canadian medical schools are of high quality. Frankly, no one can compare the quality because one only attends one school so there is no meaningful basis for comparison. For the record, if you’re fortunate enough to hold multiple offers, picking a school is a personal choice. If you’re trying to dissect the stats, McGill had a better match rate than U of T in 2016. It changes year over year, based on so many factors. The CaRMS match is more complex than you think, and you need to divorce the idea of how one year’s stats of one medical school will be the key determinant from your decision making.
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    I definitely hope it’s earlier than later. Of the entire application process, I find this waiting period the most excruciating. Best of luck to all!
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    People are looking for ulterior motives here. But I do feel the need to point a lot of people in these movements and medicine really 100% believe that doctors are paid too much, and that their costs burden the health care system to the point that it harms patients as it cause the entire system to be under funded. It is a relatively small number for sure but it probably bigger than most people realize. I know quite a number of doctors that feel that way and while that can seem bizarre ha often to some people (particularly on the forum) I think it is important to realize that they really don't have any other motive but to help their patients. They aren't playing politics for politics sake. They aren't seeking to pocket money and then put on some fake statement of support for others etc for some reason. They actually would accept a pay drop if (and only if) it supported other parts of the system, and if they could figure out a way to have it globally happen they would encourage it (before someone says they should just volunteer back a big chunk of their salary in isolation - that wouldn't achieve what they are looking for ). Plus this is Quebec where they don't have large student loans and med school tuition is extremely cheap, which removes a classic argument for doctor high wages so it is an easier argument to make there. I mention this in part to say I don't think you cannot dismiss or ignore people like that or thinking they are not actually truthful in what they are saying (800 people that declared them selves probably meaning a bunch sympathetic haven't as well - There aren't that many doctors in Quebec ~20K I believe). Not everyone is medicine cares about making money (beyond a reasonable point, and right now medicine is well above that point). One of the interesting things in medicine is exactly how richly diverse the people are in their personal and political beliefs.
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    I think dominos already has a patent pending on this system << Your application is in the oven >>
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    They should have a meter showing how many application they've gone through and how many they still have left. UofT if you're reading this, pls consider. It would prevent every singe "so at this point if I haven't heard anything should I assume I've been rejected?" post.
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    Medicine is hard and interesting work that comes with a lot of responsibility. That does not have to translate into more ‘hours’, nor should it in all cases. It is a huge logical fallacy to assert that more hours worked necessarily translates into being a better and more effective worker. And you risk doing a huge disservice to patients if you assume that has to be true and then completely burn yourself out. I am not saying people shouldn’t work a lot of hours if they like it and feel they can do it safely and effectively. I am just saying that being a good doctor != working more than everyone else in society all the time.
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    Hey, I am so sorry you're going through such a horrible rough time in your life but I need to tell you this- it will pass! First year is hard for EVERYONE! Sure, there will always be those people who barely study and still do well and the thing is, you don't know their circumstances! Those that did IB school generally do very well in first year university because its basically a repeat. However, many highschools don't prepare you on how to study for exams and thats why many people struggle in first year. I surely did. My first year marks were terrible, but look at me now.. I got a 3.96 and 4.0 in my last two years of university. The difference all came down to two things: how to study and how to manage my time. They do go hand in hand too because once you learn the study method that works best for you, your efficiency goes up and so does your time management. Experiment with different study methods! Use online cue cards like quizlet.com, or listen to the lecture recording and truly try to understand what the professor is teaching you rather than simply memorizing. Tutoring helps too! There are sooooo many ways around doing bad in first year and please DO NOT THINK ITS A TESTAMENT OF YOUR INTELLIGENCE. Its not. The fact that your marks went up in second semester just proves how capable you really are. I promise you if you keep going at this strong, do some adjustments here and there, and experiment a little, your marks will sky rocket. Let me tell you about a story about someone I personally know that was in a similar position to you. He was on academic probation in first year because of how bad he did. Yes, of course he became discouraged but that didn't stop him from working towards his goals as much as possible. Guess what? He's in an Ontario medschool right now (I don't want to say which in case hes reading this). If he can do it, so can you. Please PM me if you ever need to talk or ever feel like things are going a bit rough and its hard to handle. There will always be people there to support you!
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    At the end of the day a lot of these individuals applying to competitive specialties are none different than others applying to less competitive specialties. This uniquely holds true for Canada. In the US, it's a different ball game with their obsession with standardized test scores. In Canada, it's all about who you know, not what you know. Interested in derm? Hopefully you have a home derm institution. Reach out to them starting in first year, say hello, work on projects with them, shadow, and don't be an awkward freak. They will remember you and you will match over the all-star applicant who has an MD/PhD, is interested in academics, and has a genuine interest in advancing the field of dermatology. I'll repeat, it's who you know, not what you know. This probably explains why there aren't many academic dermatologists in Canada. Many of them are just doing general or cosmetic derm. When you go to the US, it's a different world - there you see true academic dermatologists advancing the field. Dermatology in Canada is in a sad sad state.
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    Thank you so much, I really appreciate people like you; to be honest you might have just saved my life today. I was feeling suicidal and was planning on acting on it. I called the help line it was helpful and they told me about the programs my school offers. I have known about them but I have been to ashamed to do anything about it. I just feel judged all the time, even when I ask professors for help in school work help they judge me. And I just felt so alone in the situation, to know that others are/ have gone through similar things really helps me; so I really appreciate this.
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    If you are feeling suicidal please reach out to someone right away to talk to directly. Since you're on this forum, I am assuming you're in Canada: there are hotlines across Canada that you can call into where you will be put in touch with someone who you can talk to about what you're going through and how you're feeling: https://suicideprevention.ca/need-help/ . I don't know which school you're at, but they certainly have to have student counselling resources -- contact them as soon as you get back to school on Monday. I know at UBC you can literally just show up in the morning and express how you're feeling, and they will get you in to talk to someone right away. I used to suffer from quite severe depression, and I know from experience how helpful it can be to just have someone to talk to. There was one semester where I was really struggling with school generally, as well as some things in my personal life, and I felt like I really needed help but didn't know who to talk to. It was really hard for me to talk to my friends, because I felt like they couldn't relate to what I was going through. I went to see one of the counsellors at the school for cognitive behavioural therapy, and she really, really, really helped me. In addition to just being there for me to talk to, she had training and actual strategies she could suggest to me to help me deal with my anxiety and depression over time. I know it can be scary to reach out to someone like that, and sometimes it can take a couple tries to find a mental-health provider who is a good fit for you. But it's really worth trying, because in my experience it's even harder to deal with depression alone. It's also really important to understand that A LOT of students struggle with the same kinds of things that you're going through. You're really not alone, and it's a normal struggle for a lot of people. Learning how to learn well is actually a really complex skill -- it takes most people years to master, and even then, it's something you keep improving on over time. I am still really developing these skills in medical school, and I've had to change my study strategies a lot to be effective in this new environment (and I've got two previous degree and 8+ years of post secondary under my belt). In my last job before returning to school, part of my work was an undergraduate advisor. I worked with a lot of students who found themselves in a similar situation that you're describing where they worked so hard, and just couldn't get the results that they wanted. Many students are able to overcome a bad year (or years) in school with support and planning to help them figure out how to succeed to a level that they are happy with. What helps in such a situation differs from person-to-person -- for example, for some students, it helped to reduce their course load for a semester or two so that they could practice time management and study strategies with less going on, whereas for other students, it helped to connect them with resources and tutors at the university that could help them work on areas they were struggling with. So in addition to finding someone at your school to talk to about your mental health, I'd strongly encourage you to reach out to a faculty or departmental advisor to talk to about your course planning and your study strategies. They may be able to help you themselves, or put you in touch with some other resources to help you. Edit: And as @organize suggests, if you let us know what school you're at, we might be able to give you some more specific advice!
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    Ah the famous Schulich curriculum. I'll give an overview as to how first year is so you have an idea of what we've done so far. So we start off in first year with a course called Core Biology from September to October that brings everyone in the class on the same playing field. It covers topics such as Microbio, anatomy, physiology, head and neck, immunology, and some dental intro topics in saliva and mineralization. We also have Ethics and Biomaterials running concurrently till December. From October till January, we take the "General Medicine" Block courses which include gross anatomy, physiology, pathology, pharmacology and general medicine. Its structured such that you have anatomy on Monday, physiology on Tuesday, pathology on Wednesday, pharmacology on Thursday and General medicine on Friday. FYI, general medicine brings together all the material you learned throughout the week into one case-based course to learn how to think like a practitioner (medical management of dental patients). It runs like this for each system (cardio, resp, renal, etc.) where we have midterms in December and finals in January. Dental Anatomy and Oral Histology also starts in October and continue till December and February respectively. You start wax ups in sim clinic in dental anatomy which is fun! Essentially, you have 10 courses running simultaneously from October to December and 12 exams in December. In late January-Early Feb, you have 9 exams for the remaining courses. Its not the most attractive part of Schulichs curriculum but it has a lot of upside to it. In first year, we do pharmacology and general medicine (I know some schools take pharm in second year) so that we start thinking like practitioners before even going up into the main clinic. Not all schools take a course in general medicine but I feel the material that we learn in that course really prepares us to diagnose and learn medical management in depth. Also, our sim clinic is state of the art, newly renovated and worth every dollar. Its nice being able to spend time in a space that has new materials and equipment instead of the old sim clinic which doesn't even compare to what we have now! Also, Schulich has fewer grad departments (ortho, oral surg) so students in upper years get more cases sent to them from what I've heard while shadowing them. The small class is a benefit since we're all tight knit, have intramural teams and go out together as a class! Of course every school isn't perfect and has their issues but I've been pretty happy so far here. @longhaul and @Waves can fill in anything I've missed but if you have any specific questions, let me know!
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    I can confirm this! I am still reviewing files...
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    Find a place where you're not going to be interrupted by other people, then start small talk etc, show you're interested.. then when the silence hits, tell her you have a 4.0 GPA and 132 CARS. She'll ask you for your number