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  1. 32 points
    So update for any interested parties. I matched to Family Medicine! Always liked living life on the edge, but I'll admit this was cutting it close. I can still accomplish my goals through this route, just have to take a different path than initially intended. Thanks for all of the advice.
  2. 19 points
    If people are wanting to take legal action regarding a single medical school rejection, then I think admissions is doing their job correctly in keeping you out.
  3. 16 points
    While I acknowledge people's frustration over changing goalposts, I think Western's change this year is commendable. The reality is, high MCAT and GPA scores are not good predictors of who will become good physician. The aamc has been looking into how medical students and physicians perform based on their entrance scores, and there is no significant difference between someone with a 132 CARS and a 126, for example. Even more importantly, arbitrarily high cutoffs unnecessarily favour more privileged students (those who can afford tutors, expensive prep courses, not having to work for a summer while they study) and results in less class diversity. By lowering cutoffs in favour of an additional aABS, Western is taking steps to ensure that they've still selected students who are likely to succeed academically, but come from more diverse backgrounds and will better reflect the patient populations they'll be serving. As for the quality of someone's EC's, don't assume that just because you've done something unique or flashy, that it holds more value than someone else's accomplishments. Just because Candidate 1 could afford to take a summer off to travel and do charity work in another country, doesn't mean that experience holds any more value than the experiences of Candidate 2, who had to work full time in customer service to support their family. File reviewers are often trained to look for these issues, and would be asked to look through essays and evaluate personal character or what was learned from an experience, not what was actually done. TLDR; Thinking you have the best scores or flashiest ECs does not make you any more deserving than anyone else, and expressing sentiments of entitlement really make your privilege show.
  4. 15 points
    I don't usually post my stats anymore since they've basically remained the same from my posts 2 years ago. I'll make an exception in this time just because of how -relatively- little data usually gets contributed here. TIME STAMP: Feb 21 2019, 11:17 EST Interview Date: March 30 Result: Interview (MD) cGPA: 3.96 (by rounding) MCAT: Passed cutoffs ECs: Filled up all 32 items this year, but I've had an interview back when I had 21/48 items. Diverse and met each of UofT's clusters quite well. Essays: Spent at least 1.5 months on them, at least 400 hours. Was it overkill? To be honest, probably. I'm not a bad writer by any means, but when it comes to pieces with word limits, I believe in the importance of articulating each idea as succulently and artistically as possible. My grades did suffer but I wanted to write essays that could stand strong among a diverse audience of readers (which is to be reasonably expected of) and leave myself without regret. All of the topics strongly resonated with my experiences and I had a lot to share. If anything, future readers should find this observation helpful: having exchanged essay reviewing with some of my friends, I've come to realize that there isn't a single, uniform writing style that really makes the magic happen. Some of my friends briefly addressed the question within a single few sentences, then built their entire essays on how their experiences met the four clusters. Personally, I dedicated almost half my word count towards giving a thorough answer/solution before briefly sharing some personal experiences. We all got an interview. Year: Graduated UG Geography: OOP Two years ago, I did horribly on my interview. I knew my application wasn't strong: I had a weak reference, few extracurriculars and ultimately, couldn't hold up to applicants with an amazing wealth of experience behind them. I was invited during the final week and suspected that I had only marginally scraped into getting an interview. I convinced myself that the odds weren't in my favour and let myself fall. Last year I didn't take my essays as seriously enough and got rejected March 16th. Firstly, the topics just didn't click with my experiences. Secondly, seeing that I already had been previously been invited, I grew extremely over-confident and complacent in my writing. I got no interviews from any school during this year. Each interview is a privilege. Each year, med schools get more and more amazing applications, either from those who have come back strong after a previous rejection, or new talented applicants. Perhaps I'm just on this site too often, but getting accepted 4th year doesn't seem as common as it once was. In any case, I'm extremely grateful to have another chance of making things right.
  5. 15 points
    Problem with your logic is that you think the system is goofed up or that the incoming class is somehow "screwed". They aren't. The wheels will keep turning and those that get in will continue along the process with zero functional difference. Just so happens John Doe took a seat instead of you. Got in on slightly different requirements/process but equally as qualified and capable of doing well in medicine. Dont get sucked into a false sense of superiority by having a marginally better GPA or MCAT score.
  6. 15 points
    I very much doubt 1 single individual read all 8 of your essays. It was likely divided among 8 people, with the average of your responses being taken as your final score. This is how it works in CASPer, for UoT, MMI, etc. The admissions office of every school has the right to change their admission criteria from one year to the next. Western is not unique in this circumstance. To be honest, I actually admire Western for changing their criteria to allow character elements to shine through compared to the archaic method of using only GPA and MCAT. As I mentioned to you before in a previous post, possessing a good MCAT or GPA, while important, are not the sole factors that determine whether or not someone is good enough for med school. IMO, focus on your other interviews at those Ivy schools. Perhaps take a little bit of time to reflect. Likening yourself to a 'Syrian refugee' screams to me that your line of thinking needs to come down a notch.
  7. 14 points
    A year ago, I was in your shoes. I did not know if all the years of studies I had worked towards were worth it. If all the volunteering, wishing and dreaming was going to lead me somewhere. An interview is unpredictable and I could very easily throw it all away. I just want to tell you all to have confidence in yourself. You were selected for a reason. You all have the potential to become medical students. This year or next year, don't give up. Whatever you are feeling is normal. Everyone feels this way. Every single person in the room you will be in. Here is my advice for interviews : There is no definite answer key for scenarios. Complete the required task. Don't be afraid to verbalize your thought process. No one is trying to trick you. Don't overthink the scenarios. One bad station happens to everyone. Actors and interviewers will sometime seem 'distant' because they have to remain neutral. Don't take it personally. If you have completed a station and are satisfied within time, you don't need to force yourself to add more information. I guess all I am trying to say is : I truly wish you all the best on your interviews. May our paths cross soon!
  8. 13 points
  9. 13 points
    cb80

    Entrer en med avec la pire cote r ever

    À 25 ans je doute fort qu'il ira faire un 2e DEC. D'ailleurs, ses notes de sciences humaines vont toujours trainer sa moyenne vers le bas. Je suis curieuse de savoir pourquoi tu parles d'exception? C'est par rapport à ton âge? Par rapport à ta motivation du moment? Au fait que tu parles anglais? Qu'est-ce qui justifie une exception en ta faveur? Il faut comprendre que les gens qui font médecine sont pratiquement tous des gens qui ont des A+ depuis la maternelle... J'ai fait médecine dentaire et la pire cote R au niveau cégep était de l'ordre des 33,500 cette année-là. Je vais dire tout haut ce que les autre pensent certainement tout bas, c'est un peu beaucoup ambitieux pour le moindre, de dire que tu peux très bien accomplir ce programme alors que tu n'as même pas fait de cours de sciences à date. Réducteur d'autant plus de croire que tu mérites la place d'un autre qui a buché beaucoup plus. Un 98 en anglais, c'est bien, mais avoir ce 98 à l'examen final sans remettre les travaux pendant la session, ce n'est pas admirable. D'ailleurs, tout le monde en médecine est bilingue là, voire trilingue. Les notes, mais aussi la constance sont requis. Aussi un peu d'humilité.
  10. 13 points
    Western's previous over-reliance on quantitative objectives has resulted in some barely-functioning manchildren being in my class since year 1, and judging from the replies in this thread (legal action l.o.l), the new system is keeping many such people out, so I'm all for it. Perhaps it's time for an attitude adjustment and self reflection if you think you're entitled to anything in this game.
  11. 11 points
    Hey Guys I hope that I don’t create a panic with this post. As we get closer to the magical Monday, please use this thread to report your outcomes. I removed EC and cGPA as at this point it is only prereq GPA that plays a role: TIME STAMP:  Result: pre-reqGPA: MCAT: Feeling About MMI (please be mindful of NDA): Year: IP/OOP/International: comments: Good Luck to all my comrades. Every step of this journey has been bitter sweet. There has been tears of joy and disappointment but very soon we shall know of our destiny. No matter the outcomes, let us we are much grander than this decision. “Remember your dreams and fight for them. You must know what you want from life. There is just one thing that makes your dream become impossible: the fear of failure.” May the odds be ever in your favor! Good Luck!!!!
  12. 11 points
    KarlPilkingtod

    Accepted 2019

    Saw "dal office of admissions" and "you're invited" and had a heart attack. Can I sue?
  13. 11 points
    That's if you get fruit.
  14. 10 points
    downinggr

    Accepted 2019

    Just a little thought that I felt compelled to share. For those of you that are fortunate enough to live in an area with Daylight Savings Time, just remember that decision letters are 1 hour closer than you may have thought.
  15. 10 points
    Title pretty much says it all. I'm a MS1 at Schulich, and last year I made a website with all my MCAT resources and all my interview resources too. I'm guessing if you're reading this you've already done the MCAT, but you might find my interview prep materials useful. You can find it all here - https://ultimatepremedpackage.wordpress.com/interviewing/ Please let me know if you have any questions! Of course, I can't tell you what questions they asked me, etc., but I can give general information about the day or whatever. I might see some of you for your interview day, but if not - good luck! You'll do great!
  16. 10 points
    stats arent everything man. Maybe he came off as arrogant and entitled in his ABS.
  17. 9 points
    premed_67

    Accepted 2019

    I’m heading to the Tupper in an hour, if I have the courage to go to admissions, I’ll ask and update everyone!
  18. 9 points
    I don’t usually post, but seeing what you’ve said thus far, I think you need a reality check. You’ve vented about how unfair the system is, how you’re tired of applying for 3 cycles. Yet you’ve applied with your 125 CARS for multiple cycles now, obviously banking solely on your SWOMEN status and being admitted into western. This year you didn’t get an interview (which I know, is a horrible feeling and I’m sorry for that), yet I find it somewhat ironic that you’re complaining about the unfair Canadian med system with your 125 CARS, while the non-SWOMEN cutoff is a 128. You’ve also said that you don’t know how to improve your app. I think the answer is pretty clear here - rewrite your MCAT. You said it yourself, your score precludes you from queens and Mac. I know it sucks right now, but seriously, stop feeling sorry for yourself and grind harder if this is truly what you want.
  19. 9 points
    No one can deny you the right to feel angry about the decision, however, I can assure you taking a legal route is not going to end positively. The policies are not meant to be transparent. Given that you also applied to American schools, you should know that there is a lot of ambiguity in the process, even more so there. Ontario is known to have some of the highest competition to enter medicine. While ~45-50% of people who apply to American medical schools will succeed in being granted admission (as per AAMC statistics), Ontario schools admit less than 10% of the applicant pool. When you apply, you are mixed with thousands of applicants of whom many will also possess amazing credentials. How do you sort out those thousands of applicants? Subjectivity. We all know by now that GPA and MCAT alone are not the sole indicators of how one will perform as a doctor, which is why all the medical schools have transitioned away from using those as the sole criteria (and in this year's instance, UWO was the last of the Ontario schools to reform their admissions criteria). Something about the aABS of the applicants they chose to interview resonated with the assessors. This ambiguity in the process carries forward even at the interview stage. You are correct, there are a lot of 'deserving students'. All premeds sacrifice a tremendous amount of their lives to apply to medical school. The unfortunate reality is that there are not enough positions for everyone.
  20. 8 points
    You should understand that this probably comes off as offensive both to those who chose to attend Qmed and to those who truly do want to attend the school but aren't accepted.
  21. 8 points
    TIME STAMP: 10:00am [Update: 3:53pm, Friday Feb 1 2019) Result: Waitlisted--"Reviewed-Decision Pending"--->[Update: Further Review Required (invite)] cGPA: 3.88 Feeling about Casper: Prepped lightly for about a month or so, did some practice tests and scenarios. Felt pretty good about it. Year: 4th year of Anatomy and Cell Biology (graduating this spring) IP/OOP/International: IP Letter of EC: No Super excited to interview!
  22. 8 points
    You are right on the limited spots, and the impact. I have been around here for awhile and this isn't the first time I have seen these sort of radical change by a school and the impact on the applicant pool. Anger is a predictable response and while it isn't logical I can understand why. People that work so hard under a set of assumptions are then hit over the head when after achieving much have the goal posts moved. People could have sacrificed ECs for years to get a high GPA and MCAT score for Western and now find out that doing that was wasting their time. Further they have gotten that high GPA every year and then find out they are beaten out by some one with way more ECs at the expense of their GPA, and in fact could have terrible GPA years but hit the 2 years under new rules. The objective nature of the old system for many is an oasis in the other relatively subjective, "what do you what??", approach of some other schools. The calming effect if you also happened to be SWOMEN is also diminished. Whole new world in effect - and you can see a lot of people with high MCAT/GPA scores here blocked when they thought they were a sure thing for an interview. Same thing happened when Mac changed radically its polices, Ottawa dropped the Masters route, Queens did adjustments and went dark with some of its rules ... Come to think of the only school that hasn't changed is Toronto and NOSM. At least of all the things you can change about your applicants ECs are relatively simple. There well be a lot of analysis and search for some idea of their criteria, and people will pick up the pieces and move on from there. But for now its going to hurt.
  23. 7 points
    Hey guys, Nothing to be scared of, just thought results are coming out next week and it’s good to get this thread up and running. Accepted/Refused/Waitlisted: cGpa: sGpa: thoughts on MMI: IP/OOP: Year/degree if obtained: Good luck everyone one
  24. 7 points
    For those who might benefit from this information (present and future): uOttawa has released their acceptances for the MD/PhD program (Monday, March 4th). Interviews were held mid-late February. There were around 8-10 applicants interviewed for roughly 4 spots. We (or at least I) have until March 13th to confirm, or reject, the acceptance. Congrats to those who got accepted! I hope this might help those curious about the program in terms of interview/acceptance dates.
  25. 7 points
    mohammad

    Accepted 2019

    Are we packing it up for today? See you all tomorrow same time, same place?
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