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  1. 14 points
    Congratulations to all who got an interview! Try to start looking into the MMI process and preparing early, time really flies! There are plenty of resources lying around the forum, so take advantage of that. For those looking for more MMI questions to prepare with, try googling "korean premed mmi questions", you should find a pretty big list. Psychologically preparing yourself for emotionally/socially uncomfortable/awkward situations and remaining calm under all circumstances are really key, so try yourself at these sample scenarios and whatever else you can find until you feel like you're ready to take on whatever they might throw at you when the big day comes around. Also very happy to see some familiar usernames from last year I really really hope it works out for you guys this year. To the applicants who didn't get an invite this year and are really disappointed right now, I hope you'll feel better soon. It's an unreasonably competitive process, so while you should take a step back and re-evaluate, especially when the stats come out later in the cycle, you also really shouldn't let this result affect your sense of self-worth. Most importantly, don't let this hurdle put your life on pause; keep living life to the fullest outside of medicine, and the rest will fall in place.
  2. 13 points
    Result: Regrets Time Stamp: 9:00 am Interview Date: N/A wGPA: 3.97 (last two years of undergrad) Year: finishing masters at harvard MCAT: 509 (128/126/128/127) <- probably the issue ECs: executive on same clubs for 4 years, president of 2 clubs, founded not for profit, 1 first author publication and 1 co-authorship under journal review, work study research position in undergrad, various other miscellaneous activities in student society and clubs, I think I had strong referees? (had Rhodes interview based on them so don’t really think it could’ve been an issue with the letters...) Geography: Ontario Ive never posted on forums before because I really struggle with imposter syndrome and am super self conscious comparing myself against all the amazing candidates here. However, since Queens makes the application process extra difficult by not posting any statistics/criteria I thought I would contribute in case it could help someone. I also just wanted to say that I have a few friends that didn’t get any interviews for 2 years in a row and then managed to gain admission to multiple medical schools in their 3rd attempt. A lot of these admission processes can be quite flawed and may take students that may not make the best doctors while missing out on those that would. Even this year I know of someone who received an interview invite who not only failed a class due to a breach of academic integrity but also obtained a few publications in their name because their uncle was a surgeon. I’ve personally found it difficult to reconcile feeling like I’m not good enough in the face of knowing of cases like this. At the end of the day though what keeps me going is that (hopefully) hard work will pay off and things will work out for the best. I hope we can all take invites and rejections with a grain of salt, and continue to be kind to ourselves during this process. Wish you all the best :)
  3. 9 points
    Good luck all, you can do this!
  4. 6 points
    As we approach the target date for interview invitations I thought it may be appropriate to start this thread! TIME STAMP: XX:XX Result: Invite / Reject cGPA: Feeling about Casper: ECs: Year: UG (what year), Masters, PhD IP/OOP/International: Letter of EC: Yes/No Comments (Optional): Good Luck to all and may the odds be ever in your favor! - CardioMed
  5. 6 points
    good luck tomorrow everybody!
  6. 6 points
    TIME STAMP: 10:46 Result: Invite cGPA: 3.87; MCAT: No Feeling about Casper: Didn't feel too good about it, but gave my most honest answers ECs: Highlight: 2 publications which one as first author during my undergrad. FRQS, CIHR and Faculty scholarships. A lot executive roles in 3 different non profit organisations . Kickboxing amateur and others. PM me if interested. Year: finishing my M.Sc in physiology this summer. IP/OOP/International: IP Letter of EC: yes for one semester Comments (Optional): With my grades in Cegep and a 2.98 during my first undergrad year, a lot of people told me I would never make it and to think about changing career. I had a specific goal and I worked very hard to improve myself academically and also a lot personally. There is a light at the end of the tunnel and don't expect others to see it for you. And remember "there is no shortcut to anywhere worth going" .
  7. 6 points
    TIME STAMP: 1015 Result: Invite!!!! wGPA: 4.00 MCAT: Not submitted ECs: first author on 3 journal paper and first author and presenter on around 19 abstracts, volunteer in africa, cancer centre volunteer, research group mentor and manager, and athletics, VP of a school club, etc. Year: 1st undergraduate degree (2015): cGPA 2.2, second degree (2018): cGPA : 4.0 Currently finishing MSc. IP/OOP/International: IP Letter of EC: No
  8. 6 points
    Edict

    Why do people want this so bad ?

    I think theres a lot of doubts in every profession. I sometimes browse other professional forums and see career switchers all the time. One of the reasons you see a lot of dissatisfied people in medicine is because its a career that requires so much sacrifice in the beginning and the rewards don't really come until later, so if there are any people who are dissatisfied, they find it very challenging to switch, which means the only way to vent is to be somewhat dissatisfied. Additionally, with medicine, your skill set is not easily transferable to other professions. In other fields, the rewards come as you go, and people who are dissatisfied are unlikely to advance in these careers, so people make career move switches with ease. Medicine requires a leap of faith, you essentially need to commit to it before you have even experienced it. Most people don't really experience the grind until mid residency. I think everyone goes through something of a initial grind phase in premed, which you are usually passionate enough to get through, a honeymoon period when you enter medical school, a gradual settling back to reality in clerkship a smaller bump in first year of residency then a gradual decline until one becomes staff. Then it varies, the grind continues in academics, whereas in community most people settle into some sort of grove, but generally people are happier as staff. Personally, i try to keep my expectations lower, ultimately, its a job like any other and its important to keep reminding yourself that. As far as most careers are concerned, medicine is really a top job.
  9. 6 points
    MEDusa

    Interview dates

    This thread is annoying, but I can't help opening it...
  10. 6 points
    shrekfiona12

    Interview dates

    *keeps refreshing Minerva instead of focusing on school work*
  11. 5 points
    It’s easy to get discouraged after putting together an application and not getting an invitation to interview. I have been there twice- this is the third time and finally got one. The average student has to do 2 or 3 attempts before getting accepted. So view pre-interview rejection as a necessary step towards becoming a doctor. 2 or 3 application cycles is the average, meaning half of applicants take longer. With every application cycle, you learn something that improves your application and strategy. It is not wasted! There is no embarrassment in pursuing your dreams. Your verifiers and friends don’t actually care that you are taking a couple years-it shows persistence. Now, a note to those with lower GPAs and MCAT scores… it’s easy to get discouraged when you see most everybody here has 3.8+ and 510+. Guess what, I didn’t have either of those. You can always retake the MCAT- if you have met the minimum to apply before and it feels too daunting to study for the whole thing again, pick one or two sections (CARS, PSYCH/SOC, etc) and bring up your scores in those two sections. You can do it in 2 months, boom, pow, done. If you have a lower GPA, the good news is that U of A seems to be moving away from having it count as much each year. If you have a high GPA, good on you, you’ve already proven to yourself you can do hard things. The best news of all… extra-curricular activities seemingly count for more and more. You don’t have to be smart- you just have to be dedicated and passionate which most everybody can do if they are willing to find what interests them. Based on my application and how far below average my GPA and MCAT scores both seem to be compared to previous years, I would guess EC’s combined with CASPer and references make up at least 50%+ of pre-interview score now. You don’t have to be an academic genius-just a genius at finding activities you love. The secret for me to get to an interview was being VERY diverse in what you pursue outside of school. Do something unusual-unrelated to medicine. Show them you have a life and can make it in life without being a doctor and could be successful in another field. Show them you can contribute. Show them your understanding about issues of inequalities in society and how you are working to help others. Show them you believe in investing in yourself- it’s not all about other people. Develop a talent and then go as far as you can with it. Start today by picking something out. Last of all... don’t compare yourself to others!!!! It’s so toxic. You have certain strengths and shouldn’t expect yours to exactly match those of others. The more different your application is from your friends, generally the better. When the admissions committee sorts through thousands of applications, I would guess they get bored- I would. Make yours so unusual they want to meet you as a person-not just as an applicant. Be interesting. If you want to join that hot dog eating contest and go for the national record-do it! Keep your head up and good luck munchkins.
  12. 5 points
    Rejected IP Best 2 year GPA- 3.96 cGPA- 3.94 MCAT - 132/130/132/130 - 524 Cant believe it how this process works. Had good ECs and ABS. Got called from IVY schools, USA. I think there is a loophole in the system. The policies are not transparent. If anyone very well deserving is looking into taking a legal route, do reply to me. Im in. I would like to know where i went wrong. I am sure there are a lot of deserving students who think the same way.
  13. 5 points
    Result: Invite Time Stamp: 9:20 am Interview Date: wGPA/cGPA: 3.79/3.36 Year: Final year PhD, MSc completed MCAT: 514 (128/128/129/129) ECs: Very research heavy- 9 pubs (five 1st author), over 300k in grants and scholarships, some major media appearances and lots of knowledge translation work, very unique clinical research with an international collaboration, lots of TAing. Non-research based awards for my sport (varsity and international for more than 12 years) and teaching. A lot of employment in customer service roles, not much volunteering. I know my LORs were very strong. Geography: IP I was rejected everywhere when I applied in my masters and I never ever thought I'd receive an invite. Very grateful 6 years later, and after rewriting the MCAT!
  14. 5 points
    After the crushing blow of UBC interview rejection in December I am really glad to say I have an invite. Sorry to all those who received regrets today Result: Invite!! Time Stamp: 9:20am EST Interview Date: --- TBA wGPA/cGPA: wGPA 3.96-3.97 Year: BSc granted MCAT: 511 (127 CARS, evenly weighted) ECs: lots... medic, music, sports, research, presentations, co-authorship, etc. Geography: OOP
  15. 5 points
    Lol this is kind of sexist towards men and imo a little disturbing that some physicians think that way. I completely understand empathy is important in medicine but I think it is much more important for a physician to be clinically competent and advance the medical field than being empathetic. No amount of fuzziness and empathy will cure bacterial infections and cancer patients. Plus we need people who are empathetic in medical school but we also need people who took challenging courses in undergrad and want to make new medical advances (whether this person is a man or woman is completely irrelevant)
  16. 5 points
    Everyone typing here is a medical student or a pre-med, so we're all naturally going to be nudged towards the physician's POV. But I think it's important to set aside our biases and consider other perspectives as well. In this case the physician got romantically involved with a patient, after some time abandoned the patient to become involved with a colleague, AND refused to further treat the patient. It isn't a stretch to say that this is emotionally manipulative behaviour, so I don't particularly have a problem with the language used in the hearing summary. And I'm not entirely convinced that a patient recently diagnosed with cancer can give consent to the physician overseeing their treatment, so I also have a problem with your characterization of the relationship. Overall we need to stop giving the benefit of the doubt to the physician here because she has displayed a remarkable lack of judgement and frankly reckless behaviour.
  17. 5 points
    I mean yes, it's sad that someone who invested that much time and effort into their training to become an oncologist is now no longer able to practice, but also don't date your patients. It's something that is communicated to us quite clearly on a routine basis. While I have no interest in observing the downfall of a colleague, it is reassuring to see that she didn't get a free pass.
  18. 5 points
    I read the news coverage of what happened and definitely felt like she had crossed a boundary, but then I read the hearing summary on CPSO and feel awful for her. It was two consenting adults (seems like his family had at least some awareness of them having a relationship that was more than doctor-patient) and he didn't object and wasn't coerced into the relationship, both physical and emotional, with her. In his own words, he was most affected by her ending their relationship, not in her having started or during the course of the relationship itself. He didn't complain when she was initiating the relationship, and he didn't complain as it progressed and became more sexual. Sounds a lot like a scorned ex trying to get back where it hurts her the most. Based on his own words to the College, I wonder if he ever would have brought up this complaint to the College if she hadn't ended their relationship. Long story short, never date patients, current and past. (Definitely further limits the pool for those of us entering med single... ugh LOL)
  19. 5 points
    Butterfly_

    Why do people want this so bad ?

    There are always pros and cons to any career. Everyone has different preferences, priorities, and aspirations. Value and worth, these concepts can only be answered by the person themselves. What may be worth millions to one person might be worth nothing to another. Medicine isn't the only profession where people can strive for years and years without fruition. Many entrepreneurs in business work decades until they have a successful product to market. Lawyers can take years to become a partner in a well-known firm. Accountants take numerous exams and years of auditing to become chartered professionals. Other careers are just as difficult and can take just as much sacrifice. Personally, I think having the ability to practice medicine is a privilege and honor. Not many careers have the opportunity to care, heal, and relieve suffering. To me, it is a dream worth sacrificing for. And being in medical school now, everyday I feel so grateful to be here. Compared to my previous career, I feel so much happier, excited, and motivated. Having spoken to quite a few docs myself, I find that there is dichotomy of views --some love their jobs, some hate it. For the ones that hate it, perhaps this has to do with pursuing medicine for the wrong reasons, or that they haven't had the opportunity to pursue any other career prior to entering medicine, or maybe its burn out. I'm not sure. But for the ones that love it, it's more than just a job or a career. It's a calling. I had a tutor that told me once, "I have been practicing medicine for almost 50 years. I can't think of anything else more fulfilling and rewarding. If I could go back in time and do it all over again, I would in a heartbeat."
  20. 5 points
  21. 4 points
    I honestly don’t have any sympathy for her. Her behaviour was unacceptable and she is receiving professional consequences, as she should. This is not unprofessional in the manner of stressed out doctor snapping back at some rude patient. I could feel bad for that sort of conduct. This is big-U Unprofessional, the consequences of which are clearly laid out and explained to us in med school. There was an inherent inequality in the professional relationship which made true consent impossible. This is one of the really big no-nos in medicine.
  22. 4 points
    rmorelan

    Why do people want this so bad ?

    I have always been a bit torn when talking about this subject - and the longer I have been in the game the greater appreciation I seem to develop for multiple approaches - many of which are at least somewhat contradictory. That is some what annoying as I have been trying for over a decade to help people get into medical school ha. I would like to think that isn't a bad thing to be doing. Is medicine a job, career, or calling? obviously it is different things to different people - you can be a competent even great doctor in any of those classes. The more it is close to a passionate vocation the more likely I have found your patients and colleagues to enjoy working with you and in some cases you may get better outcomes but that is highly variable. All three groups are vulnerable to burn out - some of the most passionate people in the field are hit the hardest when they don't go well or they cannot contribute as much as they want. There is also a problem with frame of reference. I was a professional software engineer prior to medicine - and like other in this thread I push, fought, even clawed my way to the top of my area to master my craft. That took 80+ hour weeks, all nighters at times, and general sacrifice. Doctors work hard but I haven't run into many successful people in anything that haven't worked hard - often much harder than people realized. (as an example all the you should have gone into finance to make money people seem to gloss over the fact that those jobs are horrible - and mostly horrible as well over the exact same period of youth that medicine is over). It is rare for people to do more than one of these high intensity career pathways so it is hard for people to compare things - but as you already know there are a ton of people out there working really hard, and medicine doesn't have a lock on that. Should you back up if aiming for medicine? Using pure logic I would have to say yes - simply the majority of people trying for it don't get in so having something stand on seems logical. The only issue with that is that psychologically speaking every time you give yourself a back up you also weaken you effort towards the primary goal. That has popped out many times in the psych literature and I have seen that in medicine. A lot of the most successful people out there didn't have a back up - they win big or fail hard. I still say on the balance backing up is the right approach - but to be honest I was more of the latter type and just the sort of person that can go to those extremes even if not logical. I can speak to my personal take on things. I enjoy what I do and I love the possibility of having an impact on people lives the field offers. I work with smart skilled people every day who are trying to change the entire field. It really is an honour and a privilege to help people who are often at their worst - and when you are right and make a difference it is simply amazing. yet it isn't a perfect job, and the hype is so extreme almost nothing could live up to it. You won't help everyone you come across either because you cannot or they don't want to. You can love the subject matter but at some point you will know the material pretty cold - are you still as excited about it at that point? You will work much harder than most - and other in yourself may have difficult with that balance even while you are trying to get through it. Depending on the field there are location restrictions, lifestyle restrictions, and even obtaining a job in the first place restrictions as well. You may not get everything you want and be way too far into the process to do anything about it when that happens. With all that in mind you will obtain in medicine a job that in almost any objective sense is extremely good relative to most other fields - if you are smart with that you can take care of yourself/family in great comfort and have tremendous perks along the way . You will do and see things that most people cannot imagine doing and that is a fact. You will notice that often the people less "shiny" about medicine are those that clerks or beyond - this is simply because prior to that point medicine is amazing ha - no downside has shown up yet. Pre-clerkship is easier than undergrads where you are trying to get extreme GPA, and you have more certainty in your future, riding the high of getting in, supported financially, and have a ton of freedom and surrounded by friends. It is a special and amazing time - enjoy it while you go through. Clerks on the other hand get hammered with often truly the first really loss of control in many people adult lives - you work when and where they tell you do with no say in the matter, you are isolated from your class - and you will work hard and you work long days and nights - with stress of CARMS ever present. Residency is more of the same but worse - and now we are going on 4-7 years of that so it becomes routine capping off with an entire year of exam prep of an intensity you just cannot understand until you do it (and that is a good thing because you don't want to scare people). Long process - if doctors get respect it is because they had to get through it and thus earned that respect. What we don't have on the forum is a lot of doctors 5 years say into practise to tell us what it is like on the other side of that hump - when the student loans are paid off, and practise set up and the number of hours closer to human levels. When you look back and see where you stand, would it be worth it? I like to think so but I will have to see ha. Like others on the forum I would say really look into whether this field is right for you - don't do some knee jerk reaction to go into it without introspection. There are way too many people that have done that and they are not happy people. Those that get it right - well when the match is good these are some of the happiest people I know. Personally I believe I made the right choice and if I had to do it again I would.
  23. 4 points
  24. 4 points
    deeman101

    Vancouver vs Toronto vs Edmonton???

    I grew up in Toronto, lived in Montreal, now live in Edmonton. And visit Vancouver regularly and have stayed up to a month there at a time. The quick summary is Toronto's best strength is its diversity of people and what experiences they bring to the city. Its really a unique city because of this that you will not find in most cities in the world. The night life is good, and because everybody is always working you can do anything at almost any time. Being eastern seaboard you are also close to a lot of other Canadian and US cities. The downside is Torontonians do not realize there is more to Canada than Toronto, unless they actually leave for a good solid 3 years. This means they never realize the terrible flaws of city and the lifestyle: cost of living is way higher and not proportional to what you are getting, you live to work....for all the talk about the great things of Toronto you will not have much time outside of work to enjoy it, you get to enjoy some of the longest and shittiest commutes in the world, and generally you make less money for the same job. Its like NYC, except not even close to as awesome, and with a lower standard of living. Also, Toronto's "nature" scene is laughable. It frequently gets hot AF in the summer, and recently with climate change the winters are pretty mild. Also Toronto people are....as can be expected for a big city with "center of the universe" attitudes. Vancouver is awesome for outdoor lifestyle. Its awesome for seafood and Asian cuisine and activities (superior to Toronto easily), its very close to good US cities like Seattle. Its got great summer activities and winter activities ridiculously close to the city. The night life is not too great, and dies by like 11pm. The weather is generally good but there is definitely lots of rain happening for most of the year. It tends to wear on some people. The big problem is cost of living, rarity of good jobs, and the surprising lack of quality in public services, ex: healthcare. When I first went there I really wanted to live there, but then the realities of living there started to become apparent. Edmonton is my chosen home and where I have happily lived for the last 5 years. Its not quite deadmonton anymore IMO....it has grown by a lot in the last 10 years and is now about as happening as Ottawa. Minus Parliament hill and some of the cool museums of Ottawa. Thanks to climate change its winters are not as atrociously cold as when I first visited it 8 years ago. Its actually one of the sunniest cities in Canada and has almost 0% humidity constantly, and no more snow precipitation than Toronto. We don't get "big snow dumps" and almost never get the slushy snow. Only the white fluff. The summers....they're amazing. Coming from Toronto I wasn't used to how clear the skies are so especially the first few summers I was staring out of my sunroof at every stop light. There is lots of nature and outdoors stuff happening right in the city (the river valley) and a few hours away at the Rockies and in Banff/Jasper/Lake Louise/etc. The people are quite down-to-earth people too: they're not trying to be another NYC wannabe. The biggest reason I like Edmonton though is the standard of living is quite a bit higher. You get paid more and your cost of living is far lower. The quality of public services is very good: I much prefer working with the resources in this healthcare system than Ontario, BC, or especially Quebec. The cons: its -20C today and when these days happen they definitely suck, the drivers on the road suck (though not life-threateningly negligent like Toronto), there is way too much country music in the nightlife here so I avoid it like the plague, though there is now some ethnic diversity its definitely not as much as Toronto, and other than Calgary, Edmonton is quite far from any other major city. At the end of the day home is wherever you make it. Each place has its pros and cons and no place is clearly superior to any other. Most of the people on this board are connected to Toronto and will think its the only choice, but after leaving Toronto behind for the last 9 years I'm pretty happy with my choice. Every time I go back (my parents still live there) and catch up with my friends I'm reminded how much better my lifestyle is in Edmonton, and how much more progress I've made in life in AB that I couldn't have made in other provinces. So for me I'll be the sole Edmonton supporter here. EDIT: in terms of the "world-class" health care institutions in Toronto....70% of that is self-hype. Its in Toronto, Toronto is best in Canada, so everything is best in Toronto right? No...not really. There is a lot of things done reasonably well, but its not a leader in everything by a long shot. There is also the issue of opportunity, because many of the people in these institutions are not very collaborative and are quite cut-throat even. There's a constant struggle to survive. You have to balance resources with opportunities in choosing where you want to locate yourself for your career. I personally have done much better in my career than I could have ever dreamed of by leaving Toronto behind.
  25. 4 points
    ^ the same surgeons have likely destroyed their fair share of med students and residents.....on a monthly basis.....if not weekly.....for some of them daily. Its funny that you think FM docs are assholes since usually they are on the other end of the spectrum and actually respect the notion of quality of life (not just for patients). Be careful of extrapolating anecdotes. Trying to explain why life in medicine is "not what you think" is something I've struggled with for years. My wife, who got in 2 years after me, likes to blame me routinely for not dissuading her from medicine (I did...she didn't listen). I used to participate in medical admissions and I felt bad for some of the candidates. Not because their dreams of medical school may be crushed, but should they get in their genuinely kind-hearted soul will be sent through the meat grinder, broken down, and reformed into......me. The extreme minority (think less than 1/100) go through, keep their humanity intact, and still genuinely enjoy it (we're all good at lying to others and ourselves about how much we "enjoy" it). I'm simultaneously happy for them, but also jealous that I'm not one of them. For the ones that don't get in, I know in the moment their life comes to an end. But I can't help thinking "you've been spared" in my head. NLengr is right in that doctors are the least compassionate professionals to their own kind. Our first reaction to one of our colleagues struggling is to look at them with disgust and scoff at them for not being resilient enough. "We all are struggling, I'm pulling my weight, why aren't you??" Even for those with "legitimate" issues (which basically means biologic, and not psychiatric/social issues) they are advised to pick a specialty where they won't be a burden on their colleagues or hide it and keep it to themselves as best as possible. Ex: don't go into a demanding surgical specialty if you have chronic, severe IBD. Often times its up to you to fight (sorry, "advocate") for yourself, because no one else really cares that much about you. But in reality even if one wants to help their colleague they really have limited capacity because everyone is similarly trying to keep their head above the sewage water. I actually think this is why doctors don't throw their colleagues under the bus and we have some trouble self-regulating as a profession. At the end of the day, we all understand that life is hard enough as is. Why make it harder on your colleague, or particularly for yourself, in trying to report someone.
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