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  1. 8 points
    I'd be leery to publicly support actively cutting back anyone's billings. Not because I don't think optho is overpaid. I'd be more concerned that once you agree that it is legitimate to cut back "overpaid" specialties, the government will start to declare other specialties "overpaid" one or two at a time and cut reimbursement for those specialties too. They wouldnt have a reason to stop until everyone, including FM, takes a nice big pay cut. You'd be a fool as a physician to trust the government.
  2. 7 points
    Hi everyone! for everyone accepted, do you guys want to start a fb group?
  3. 7 points
    This thread may look to be in poor taste to the layperson reading it. Hell, it looks to be in poor taste to me, a PGY5.
  4. 7 points
    Our backpacks are green!
  5. 7 points
    bout to see all these med students posting about their passion for optho and how it aint about the money real quick
  6. 6 points
    Third time's a charm after all. Just got in off WL this morning via e-mail. My stats are posted above.
  7. 6 points

    PharmD 2019

    Depot!!!! Universitaire 75e sur la liste d’attente This is the best day of my life
  8. 6 points
    I actually know the top biller in Ontario through a friend - not that well though. He is a hardworking dude who basically has his own private hospital. Sure the money he makes looks ridiculous, but the number of patients he services (and the quality I bet) reflects the billings. So he is working within the legal framework why malign him and other top billers and the whole practice of medicine as a rip-off? Is it for more transparency? Give me a break. This is going to lead to more misinformation. People will think all doctors make millions, people will not appreciate why they make millions or how, and people will certainly form biases of different doctors based on their billings (higher billers might be considered more prestigious and better for example). Millions of dollars in billings sounds ridiculous....until you realize this person setup a private practice to make more OR space and meet the needs of patients in Ontario. I definitely advocate for some balancing in the billing codes to preempt the collapse of an unsustainable healthcare system, but this is something experts and the right people need to consider in an isolated non-political manner. When you let the public decide important shit....well just look at what has happened around the world... Trump...Brexit...Ford lol.
  9. 6 points
    If it ain't grey, the bag is going to goodwill
  10. 6 points

    Waitlist Support Thread - 2019

    Yall the first 2-3h where I got the email were hella rough. I'm feeling a bit better now and reminding myself that not getting in doesn't mean that I will spend the year in stagnation. Whatever you guys end up doing just remember that every single life experience is a step up and valuable to your development. Everything WILL be okay. I'm proud of all of us for getting this far and seriously the fact that we got an interview is EVIDENCE that we will eventually get in! One or two years, in the spectrum of our entire life, is really not much when you put it into perspective. Best of luck in the next cycle!
  11. 6 points

    A flawed process?

    There are some things bugging me about the medical school application process, and I just wanted to share my thoughts what you think. I used to be part of a really involved community volunteer group, which coincidentally had a lot of students applying to schools of medicine. During my involvement in this group, I saw many of these people get into medical schools. But they were rarely the people I expected to get in off the bat. Why? While volunteering I got to know some people who demonstrated great character, resilience, and compassion for others. These people would volunteer for more responsibility when others couldn't, go beyond what was expected of them in terms of their volunteer role, would always be available to support others if they were going through hard times, and sacrificed their own time and energy to make the volunteer group and the community it was supporting better. These were people I always knew would have my back if something bad were to happen. In addition to their clear academic ability, their character told me clearly these people would definitely be accepted into schools of medicine and go on to become amazing doctors who would make patients feel well cared for. But they didn't. They were not interviewed or accepted. Needless to say, despite this they have gone on to be fulfilled and accomplished in alternate life paths. This in isolation would sit well with me, as it is a competitive process after all. However, what didn't sit well with me was the fact that there were other people who did the bare minimum, fulfilled their responsibilities and no more, and only stayed to volunteer until they achieved some sort of recognition or title. These were not the people who went out of their way to help when there was a crises, such as being short-staffed or staff/community members have difficult personal issues (e.g., addiction). If such an event occured, they quit not long after and moved on to other opportunities. These were not the people that I could depend on, that I felt comfortable asking for their help. However, THESE were the people who eventually got accepted for schools of medicine and are moving on to be doctors. Why does it matter? Well, if you had to pick a doctor from either group, which one would you prefer to look out for you and take care of you? I would resoundingly pick the former. I want somebody who just doesn't do the bare minimum and calls it a day after fulfilling their responsibilities. I don't want someone looking after my grandma, who just wants to tick off the checkboxes and call it a day. I want somebody who cares, goes out of their way, and is not satisfied with 'just enough'. I can already see the arguments against this. Burnout, someone who can meet their responsibilities as a doctor only is all that's required, doctors don't need to be saints, that I only saw one aspect of these people, other. But when I think about stuff like the Casper test, a test created to look for good character, maturity, sense of ethics, I am surprised to learn that people do well by compiling a thesaurus list of 'empathy' terms that they just word-vomit onto each question prompt in an effort to score well. Is this test really looking for people who would make good doctors, or people who are good at gaming the system? Isn't this just selecting for people who are good at faking compassion and empathy? When I consider other issues, like the high costs of the MCAT, or the susceptibility of extracurriculars/references to nepotism, or the ridiculous GPA requirements, I wonder if the whole process is just selecting for people who are either privileged (resources, status, connections, etc) or are extremely good at jumping through arbitrary hoops. I've seen rich high school kids whose parents are friends with a doctor get amazing work positions in medicine that others would need complete BScs or MScs, or extensive work experience, for. Undoubtedly, this will only help them gain better experiences to put on their resume. Ultimately, it wouldn't matter how they got it for the admissions people who are skimming through resumes. At the end of the day, is the process truly selecting for people who can recognize and serve the needs of a diverse patient population? Feel free to refute or support. Happy to hear either.
  12. 6 points
    After having been a loooooooooong time lurker, I finally made an account today. And I finally get to put my post here, in the non-trad success stories, a thread I have been reading since 2010-2011. This will be a long one people, so settle in if you are going to read this post. I would say I am about as non-traditional as it gets. In the socio-economic gradient I come from (blue collar- think truck drivers and farmers), higher education is not really a thing. Most people graduate from high school, maybe do some college, and get comfortable in a middle class job until retirement. Which there is nothing wrong with. Unless, of course, you are me, graduating from high school many many years ago, and dreaming about medicine. The thing with coming from this kind of background is that there is no cultural capital to support you through learning the ropes of higher education. If there is one thing I have learned over the years, is that this “vertical transmission” of knowledge is implicit in many (most?) premed students, who have usually had the (implicit) knowledge that after high school, you go to you university, get good grades, make connections with professors and mentors who can support you. Obvious, right? Not for me, it wasn’t. I knew I wanted medicine, I knew it was my calling. But I didn’t know how to get there, and without the support of anyone, at 19, it was difficult to know how to do this. Here’s a quote from the high school career counsellor when I told her I wanted to go into medicine: “Mmmmm… I don’t know… why don’t you become an elementary school teacher instead?”. So I believed them. I believed those who said I could not make it, and after high school, I took a different path in another field. My career in this other field was successful in many ways: I have gained a profound emotional intelligence, I have learned to overcome obstacles, get back up and keep going when you hit a wall, I have learned to connect with people in a way that builds quality long lasting relationships and memorable short encounters. But this path ran its course, and it’s at 29 years old that I realized that it was time. I was yearning to be a doctor. But what were the odds? Here I was, low-income, with no degree, at an age where most people are graduating with a MD. But I had suppressed the part of me who wanted to go into medicine for long enough, and now it had resurfaced in a way I couldn’t ignore. So I started a degree from scratch. I had all the doubts in the world, but I had to at least try. I did well in my degree. Actually, I did well in the last few years of my degree. The return-to-school after a decade of using your right brain (my past career required a lot of creativity) and letting your left brain shrivel did no good for my first and to some extent second year grades. I was seeing the dream fade away. So I put my head down, and studied. Hard. I lost all my friends because I missed all their birthdays/baby showers/stags. But “I had a dream”, as they say. And I had to gamble it all, live in poverty while my peers were getting mortgages, lose all my friends, just in case it was worth it. Just in case I could get into medicine. And in 2012, after all these years of hard work, I was ready. I applied to medical school, hopeful and confident. And I failed to even get an interview. It was crushing. What med students and posters on this forum tell you when you don’t get in is to live your life as fully as you can, and do something that you find interesting. And I did. I completed a Master’s in a topic I loved (medicine-related), and found a job I thought would be great. And then another job, because the first one wasn’t as great as I thought it would be. And then another one. The problem was that all these jobs really felt, and were, like plan B, and medicine kept gnawing at me. I was in my early thirties by then, I had met someone, and I felt the societal pressure of it was time to get a job and get on with it. But you know what? Deep down, I knew that if I wouldn’t give it one more try, I would always wonder “what if”. My MCAT was still eligible for one more year, so I applied. And got rejected pre-interview. So I studied the MCAT again (while working full time), and I did well enough (not awesome but not awful) that I could apply again. And I did. And finally, finally, after 4 application cycles, got an interview. This was the most exciting news of my life. I prepared, read, practiced, bought new clothes. But mid-May came, and with it, my rejection post-interview. Damn. What a blow. And I am not getting any younger here. So the next application cycle (my fifth), I applied across Canada, and received 3 interviews. Mid-May came around, and this time I had a rejection from my home school (again), a waitlist, and… wait, what…is this… an acceptance?? “Dear medschool40&cool, on the behalf of the admission committee, we are pleased to accept you in our program”. My life flashed in front of my eyes at that moment. Me, in high school getting the highest grades but a scoff when I brought up med school. Me, in my early to mid twenties, living under the poverty line, and with no knowledge of the academic world. Me, with a dream. Me, rebuilding myself up, learning the ropes, developing relationships with mentors, writing first-author articles. Me, finally, getting into med school. Passing the threshold. Changing world. Getting into med school the closest I have ever been to a religious experience. I will, after all, be a MD. (Take that, guidance counsellor from high school). One last note: It is unusual to get into med school this late in life (I'm 39 now). And I would lie if I would say I am not worried. I am worried about the stigma, for one. I am worried about fitting in to some extent. I am worried agism will play in whenever Carms comes. But I'll keep posting here and let you know, if you're interested, how this all plays out over the next 4 years.
  13. 5 points
    ok hoes listen up... im so excited to meet you guys we finna have a good time in pharmacy k? also does anyone know if we get a formal letter in the mail? cause i wanna put it on my parents' fridge.
  14. 5 points

    Am I too old for medical school

    Is this a troll post?
  15. 5 points
    Sorry that I was dormant on this forum! To clarify, applying in this stream is only going to increase your chance of admission. For example you are 1 applicant out of 4000 for the English stream seats, and out of the 4000 applicants 100 are eligible for LSES stream. As the 1 applicant, you will now be competing against 100 for those 2 spots, but if unsuccessful, you will be re-assessed against the entire 4000 applicant pool. This is the same process they have done for MD/PHD applicants for example. If you qualify, absolutely apply, this will only increase your chances of admission (however, only slightly as there are very limited spots with possibilities of expanding the spots in the future). I do not know the background research that went into creating this stream, but we have to keep in mind that students from a low socio-economic background tend to have lower admission averages/weaker CVs (although this is obviously not the case for everyone!). If you take the indigenous program for example, although there are 4 seats, some years they had trouble to fill the seats even with 60-80 applicants given the difficulty with obtaining candidates with the adequate grade requirement/interview score. I would not undermine the success of this program until we have a couple years of data and assessment of it's impact on granting admission for students from low socio-economic status. I think this is a step in the right direction. Mr Duck
  16. 5 points
    The No-Nonsense, Definitive Guide to Acing The MCAT in 3-4 months. Hey folks! Since you helped me so much I figured I HAD to give back. Here’s 90% of what I learned when getting ready to start my MCAT. I’ve distilled all this down from the HOURS of study I did on premed forums to ascertain the BEST strategy that has many things in common with what top scorers do. Use it at your own discretion and remember that the best strategy and schedule is one that you can consistently stick to! DO NOT follow this if it doesn’t work, just adapt the parts that make the most sense. Also, feel free to PM me if you have any specific questions or want any tutoring! This is my last summer before med school in Ontario so I figured it'd be fun and useful for others if I revisit the MCAT trenches. I scored 97th% with 518: 129/128/130/131 so I couldn't quite clinch the 99th% everyone loves to drool over since I had a job and was taking some courses but I think this plan can get anyone to the 99th%, and if I had added 6 weeks to my schedule (see below) it would have been easy pickings! So I'd advise taking the full summer if you can since so many others STILL do bad after 4 full months of study. First, I want to talk about the most useful ideas I took going into the test and then I’ll discuss what I think is the optimal schedule. Overview of the test The first thing you must DRILL INTO YOUR PUNY, UN-CARS ADAPTED CRANIUM: There is always a right answer. You need to turn yourself into a MACHINE that does EXACTLY the amount of work and thinking to get the right answer no matter what using 4 things: 1. The barebones of foundational science 2. basic data extraction skills 3. interpretation skills, 4. common-sense logic to discern the right answer. Think of this ENTIRE process as honing those 4 skills and you will easily excel at this test. Barebones foundational sciences tips. From my experience the actual content and detail-oriented questions are minimal. It is a very problem-solving oriented test. As such, there’ll usually be 1-2 out of 5 questions that’ll straight up ask a fact you’d have to have memorized. So, STOP BEING A WUSS WHO’S AFRAID OF NOT HAVING MEMORIZED THE WHOLE KREBS CYCLE OR EVERY ORGO REACTION!!! IF 20 % OF THE TEST IS MEMORIZATION, SPEND ONLY 20% OF YOUR TIME MEMORIZING YA DINK! Data extraction tips: Take the SIMPLEST meaning you can out of every sentence, ESPECIALLY for CARS. They pick convoluted passages to throw you off, but there usually isn’t a deep philosophical meaning; what the author is trying to say or argue is usually VERY straight forward. The biggest thing that got me from a 126 level to a 128 almost instantly was quickly going over each sentence in the simplest way possible. A representative self dialogue that I trained to happen automatically would be: “oh dood, the author wants to talk about cats now. The author is just saying he likes cats. The author is just restating his stupid idea about cats. The author’s making a second point about why cats are cool. This shit is BASIC”. Doing this sounds like I’m teaching you to read at a 4th grade level, but it REALLY is that simple. Don’t over complicate it. UNDERSTAND what you’re reading, if a sentence confuses you, STOP DEAD, take the simplest meaning away from it (but don’t make shit up, ACTUALLY understand it) then move on. If you move through 2-3 sentence you didn’t understand, you fucked up. SO. STOP. DEAD. Just take it SLOW! You’ll find you get faster and faster as long as you focus on UNDERSTANDING Even further, the more questions you do, the better you can calibrate how much you really need to read into each sentence and paragraph. Which is surprisingly, not much! PM me for specific CARS and science interpretation strategies. 3. Interpretation tip: ALWAYS know exactly what the question is asking. The easiest thing to do is to Rephrase it simply in your head if it’s a complicated question, taking the EXACT meaning of it away. I did this as a practice until it came naturally to me. JUST ASK YOURSELF WHAT THE QUESTION IS ASKING BEFORE YOU ANSWER IT BEFORE YOU GET CONFUSED AND HAVE TO PROVE TO ME YOUR INSUFFERABLE DINKINESS BY READING THE QUESTION AGAIN. IF YOU RAD SLOW AND KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THEY WANT, YOU WILL KNOW EXACTLY HOW TO ANSWER, SO DON’T BE A DINK AND FIGURE OUT WHAT THEY MEAN FOR EACH QUESTION BY ANY MEANS POSSIBLE. 4. Logic pro tip: Always know EXACTLY why you’re picking an answer, and PRECISELY why the others are wrong and you will ALWAYS get the answer right. If you have to think it out loud, think “oh, A is wrong for this reason, B is clearly not in line with this, C is true for such and such reasons”. Practice will fine tune this skill. It’s THAT simple. Last pro tip about the test: Because it’s a Standardized test: The question types are VERY similar to one another and you have to cater your approach to these types. The more practice the do, the more you will start to see patterns in the types of mistakes you make and the types of questions you see. Review your mistakes PROPERLY so that you can not only solve that question you see again, but every question like it! By doing this you will develop a bullet-proof system for pulling the answer out of every single question, every time. More on this in the review section Mentality You have to forget about how prepared or unprepared you feel when it comes to ANY of the material or any of the questions, you have to become a MACHINE at picking the right answer. Don’t EVER be intimidated and know that you can almost always rely on common sense, and critical reasoning skills to pick the best answer, even with minimal studying. If a question is hard, EVERYONE finds it hard. Keep your head, logic your way through it, rely on common sense, cancel 2 options, bubble the best answer, know why it’s be best option and go! IF YOU DO THIS, YOU WILL DO BETTER THAN MOST PEOPLE 99% of the time: This is a 99th% percentile scorer’s mentality Study Process Do whatever it takes to get through the material as fast as possible, making sure to solidify the FUNDAMENTALS, and then backfill details. ONLY STUDY WHAT YOU DON’T KNOW. DO NOT waste time on concepts you have mastery or competence on, which will be way more than you think. Best approach IMO is to go through the list of AAMC topics and see which ones you need the most refreshing on. MARK THEM DOWN! Then take prep books (Kaplan explanations are meh but the organization of the index is fantastic) go through ONLY the summaries and read through to verify whether you know it or not Then do the diagnostic multiple choice at the end of each chapter. If you got a question wrong because you didn’t understand the content ONLY take notes and do a deep dive on a chapter if you are genuinely unfamiliar with the concepts therein or have COMPLETELY forgotten what it’s about (I had never taken Psych so I did a more detailed study of it. Even then I learned most from questions then from the content text books). Try to get through it in a month to 6 weeks max, know that you can ALWAYS backfill any knowledge you’re missing. Don’t half-ass it by rushing. The approach is more about getting the essentials, making sure you know them by verifying with diagnostics. Review process: THE MOST IMPORTANT PART OF THIS DOCUMENT Allows you to: Test your knowledge/ figure out which concepts need more studying Tweak your respective strategies for EACH section (CARS vs science has a slightly different approach that you will build through practice!) Find WEAKNESSES and hammer them all summer. It’s painful but it must be done Track PROGRESS, are you improving in terms of score, knowledge, methods, speed, accuracy? Allows you to shape the direction of your study so that you know what to read, how to spend your time, what practice to do, what works, what doesn’t Allows for REFLECTION! Lessons Learned EVERY single person who does well on this test has some sort of formal review and error reflection strategy, so think hard about how you will develop yours and hold accountable to make changes in your study to fill in holes/weaknesses. I made up a document for EVERY mistake I made on every question I got wrong for EACH section, for Each major test, and for each practice bank (Khan academy, TPR, etc.) So I could quickly reference my newfound strategies, areas of improvement, things I needed to restudy, etc. I would add to the document every single day after a study chunk, would itemize what I had to do based off these errors (to do list, plan for next day), and once a week I would reflect on my ENTIRE Lessons/error list and see if I needed to shift my study plan/ question answering methodology based on that. Error methodology I would categorize errors based on type and label them: C, I, F, R C: Conceptual failure (either I learned the idea wrong or misinterpreted the concept and have to go restudy), I: I interpreted question wrong (I had to think of a way not to make the interpretation error again) F: I really fucked up. I was negligent and didn’t read all the answer stems, I didn’t check a certain thing, I didn’t read the axes on a graph properly. This is like misinterpretation on steroids: ONE of my systems or strategies failed, so I have to remind myself to do it properly (example: Read EVERY answer stem before I choose) or I need to think of a new strategy to avoid this type of mistake again. R: Recurring: Some people put dots, others star, I just put Rs. If I repeated a mistake or a type of mistake, I'd put this so I could easily identify STRONG gabs in my strategy/knowledge For CARS in particular, I would take the mistakes and group them on even deeper categories. This will be based on passage/question/answer types which you can read about in the Examkrackers strategy book (ONLY solid one IMO out of kaplan, TPR, and EK) Practice Passages C/P Not gonna lie, some of the Khan academy passages are a bit goofy and overly complicated, but are still PHENOMENAL compared to . I have 99 % scoring friends who only used khan academy for everything so DON’T neglect how useful it is The Princeton review ones I felt were most solid in teaching foundational concepts rather than science interpretation but were still IMMENSELY useful Examcrackers, but only for their 30 min. passage exams. These were EXTREMELY solid for scientific interpretation. Definitely find a way to get a copy of these and mix it in with KA + TPR. Maybe you can use these as a test of your knowledge once you feel you’re prepared for the subject that each of these tests focuses on (physics, bio, etc.) CARS: I would advise against going insane with the practice, because most of the 3rd party material is just NOT going to train you to the AAMC style. No offense to Examkrackers (I know some people swear by them) but I was doing a CARS practice test by them and got confused because it seemed like the test was pulling new question types out of thin air. So focus HARD on doing high quality material and instead making the REVIEW process of your mistakes the focus of your CARS practice to build a solid strategy for when you’re tacking the more representative AAMC CARS. It’s VERY important to aim for quality not quantity. For sure start with Khan academy, as it’s the most representative other than AAMC Mix in TPR CARS book Do the CARS AAMC question packs 6 weeks out from your exam, then again 2-3 weeks out AGAIN to solidify your understanding of the B/B Same as others, Do KA, TPR handbooks, EK 30 min exams Always go back and relearn and detail work yu need to like the enzyme pathways. 4 months is a long time to retain that info so make sure it’s always fresh without taking away from practice to memorize. P/S: All I did was the TPR handbook, the Khan academy passages, and a few next step tests and I got 131 on this section. If you know the definitions inside and out and your interpretation skills are on point, there’s no reason you won’t easily get 129-130 + . Go through the 100 page doc on **DELETED** Use or make flash cards Mix it in with the very limited passage practice on KA, TPR, EK 30 min tests Buy the AAMC stuff right away, all of it except the flash cards (What I mean is buy all question prep). Some people use it as a diagnostic but I think it’s better to save near the end, once you’ve trained all the basic skills Practice tests I’d do at least 2 on top of the AAMC stuff. Aim for 2-8 (MAX). You’re only doing these to find weak points and to emulate the testing environment/build endurance so I’d advise against cranking away at them, as the most important thing is that you review practice you do properly. So do one every 2 weeks, MAYBE every week if you’re super ambitious I found Examcrackers were the most rigorous in terms of Science problem solving and data analysis, which is the most important part of the test to train on the Full lengths, since most of the practice from other companies don’t emphasize this (which is the biggest part of the test!). The CARS wasn’t AS representative, but the science sections make up for it Next step tests are cheap to buy in a bundle and I thought were fairly representative. Their Psych section was incredible. Bringing it all together First 4 weeks Do 2 science chapters and an hour of CARS a day until you’re done. There’s 60 Kaplan science chapters so do 2 a day if you can. If not, extend this to a max of 6 weeks. Focus on VERIFYING your understanding of major concepts rather then taking notes, memorizing, etc. ONLY study what you don’t KNOW!!! (so obvious but so important) Make sure to do all M/C at the end of each chapter to verify whether you know it or not. Mix in some passage practice from Khan academy of TPR if you HAVE TIME! I would really just take the time to focus this month on verifying your knowledge and building that foundation if you’re rusty For CARS, focus on consistency and quality: Interchange doing 3 Khan academy with 3 TPR CARS companion passages a day. Up it to 4-5 passages a day if you feel you need it. Keep in mind that if you’re spending 30 mins doing 3 passages, you should spend as LEAST as much time digging deep into the reasoning you had for the WRONG answer and the reasoning you needed to get the right answer. This is why the KA passages are so useful since they have detailed explanations for every answer stem!!! Pickup the Examcrackers CARS strategy guide: the only one I found to have consistently good tips If you’re a go getter do one diagnostic halfway through, but it may be a stupid idea since most people still have gaps and panic when they get basic science questions wrong. Every week you should take at least a half day or full day off, and one day where you reflect/review your mistakes and lightly study. You could even combine the reflection with the relaxation day: but take the reflection VERY seriously A typical day for me: SKIP straight to summary of kinematics chapter. Blitz through it, look at the equations. Do I know them and how they work? YES Can I apply them to problems? YES. Do the multiple choice, get one wrong because I’m a fool who can’t even listen to his own advice. I DIDN’T simplify the question and misinterpreted it. Minus points as an MCAT guru. Then I see another question I got wrong because I was confused about mechanical equilibrium. I GO BACK, read that section and do a few khan academy M/C on it. Look at Stoic section in chem. Understand it instantly because who can’t do Stoic? I do the questions in the back, perfectly. I do some Khan academy M/C to solidify my understanding and there’s one tricky problem I can’t do. I write down how to do it in my lessons portfolio. DONE LIKE DINNER, I’M NOW A KINEMATICS/STOICHIOMETRY GRANDMASTER Do 3 Khan academy CARS passages and sulk at the silly mistakes I make but spend 30 mins going over those mistakes and why I made them until I KNOW I’ll never make them again Bad day for me: Need to relearn Electricity and magnetism. STILL start with the summary, realize I need to go back and read most of the chapter. STILL only read the sections I don’t understand, maybe play around with the equations so I know exactly what they’re used for. Do the multiple choice. IF I get anything wrong because of conceptual error, HAMMER it with some khan academy M/C, maybe even watch a khan academy video. MAYBE I’ll revisit a specific topic again if I was still utterly shit after practicing it for an hour. I didn’t practice AS much this day since I had some serious gaps to work on in physics knowledge, but all in all I did what I needed to have a solid understanding of today’s chapter. Did some Biochem, EZ WORK FELLAS. Read summary, wrote down some KEY details, maybe read one section of the chapter ONLY. Did the multiple choice, get a perfect score like my premed-ass should PROOOO TIIIIIP! Try to do one easy subject that youre good at with one you anticipate you’ll have trouble with each day (Biochem with Physics, Chem with Psych, etc.) Keeps it interesting and allows you to focus on the thing you’re weak at so you don’t spend 8 hours a day learning unfamiliar garbage and being depressed while you regret deciding to be a premed in the first place. Did 3 TPR CARS FINAL LESSON: The key here is to only study what you need to, and go deeper on your weaknesses. Catalogue your progress and adjust how much you put into each chapter, and into each section accordingly! I know you filthy premed love studying the amino acids over and over with flashcards but recognize that you will FLOP test day if you double down on strengths instead of weaknesses. The key is to always be tackling weak points in knowledge this month until you’re solid enough to do the REAL work with the practice passages and full length tests. Passage practice and full length phase: Next 6 weeks (if your content review takes too long and you truly feel unprepared to do practice tests, first off stop being a dink, second off, squeeze this next section to 2-4 weeks if you absolutely need to, but mix in passage practice with t Do Khan academy and TPR Passage practice every day, starting with subjects you KNOW you’re weaker in based on first month of content THIS is when you start doing practice tests once a week to once every 2 weeks Take a FULL day to review the test right after, or maybe even a day and a half I’d start with the next step diagnostic test, then work my way alternating examcrackers with next step tests since they both are fairly representative but have different strengths and weaknesses (Physics and Bio are VERY good for EK, CARS and Psych are better for Next Step) Typical day for me: 30 mins doing bio passage practice (EK/TPR/KA) 15-30 mins reviewing it 1 hour doing discrete M/C on KA to fill in the gaps 30 mins doing chem passage practice (EK/TPR/KA) 15-30 mins reviewing it 1 hour doing discrete M/C on KA to fill in the gaps 1-2 hours CARS (TPR handbook) 1-2 hours reviewing it As time went on, I did less multiple choice and more straight passage questions. Bad day: Maybe I’d have to go back and restudy a chapter since I had no Idea what I was doing for some passages. That’s OKAY, it’s all about having that solid foundation then doing as much passage practice as possible. 1 hour chem reading chapter / doing M/C discretes 1-2 hours CARS (TPR handbook) 1-2 hours reviewing it Last 6 weeks This is your AAMC TIME!!! First off, shutup your stupid brain for thinking it matters what order you use these materials. You don’t know how many people ask me what the best order is to do this stuff. By FAR, it matters most how you use the materials and what you learn form them, rather then being perfectly prepared based on doing the CARS qpacks before your first full length. HOWEVER, I do believe it’s important to space out the AAMC full lengths and to save them near the end as they are the best guage as to what your actual score will be. The goal should be to do have at least a full week between AAMC full lengths, and to space other AAMC materials in between so you can get BETTER and see score improvements! Do NOT cram all 3 tests right before, it’d be better to move your test date than do that, since if you have to rewrite you’ve just ruined the validity of these tests, the best possible resource to study for the ACTUAL test. Take this time to get down in the damn TRENCHES when it comes to the MCAT. I know I was going 8-10 hours this month every single day. This may or may not be you since I started AAMC stuff 3 weeks out. If I were to do it again, I’d devote it 6-8 weeks straight to deep study of AAMC. The moral of the story however is to LIVE AND BREATH THIS STUFF BOI. Do the official guide. Some do this right off the bat the first month, but I think it works better to Segway you into the period where you’re only focusing on AAMC. Do the Qpacks. These serve as a beautiful refresher to verify one last time whether you know the foundational content. Do the CARS Qpack2 too. It shouldn’t take more than a week. Extend the time if you need to to REALLY hammer home your understanding of the CARS QPACKS and fill any foundational gaps! Do the sample test, review it for 1-2 days Do the section banks and the 1st CARS Qpack. Your grain will grow by 80% in mass if you study these 2 things properly Do FL1. Take 2 DAYS to look it over and spend the next week filling in ANY gaps at all that exist. Refer back to your mistakes and past notes frequently to crystalize the lessons from this test! Do FL2 Same protocol for FL1 except don’t spend a whole week Do the section banks and CARS packs AGAIN Do FL3 Do whatever YOU feel is right leading up to the exam. For me, the most comfortable thing was doing another scan of my “lessons learned” error documents, reading the Kaplan quick sheets, going over some basic orgo and biochem memorization stuff, knowing the physics equations inside and out. Final notes: Orgo’s fun and all, but I had 2 questions on my exam, so it’s almost a NON-issue. Some people tell me otherwise, but just consider that it only constitutes 10% of the section and usually half of that 10% is almost undoubtable from the first 3 chapters of any orgo prep book. Just know the basics and memorize the reactions near the end. This is the only time I’d say not to focus too much on a weakness, FOCUS ON HIGH YIELD WEAKNESSES, NOT LOW YIELD ONES MAGGOT! If you take anything away form this; TLDR; get through content review as fast as possible with the foundational stuff, review your mistakes properly, make a good strategy for ALWAYS getting the right answer no matter what. Don’t be afraid, have fun! This process is sick and I miss the days where I’d rip through a bunch of passages teaching me about Pavlov’s sweaty dogs, That dood who gave himself an ulcer with H. Pylori, and that STUPID FUCKING PICASSO MOTHERFUCKER (TRIGGER WARNING) Just have fun with it, put in the work above and you’re almost guaranteed to get 90+% on this test.
  17. 5 points
    I got in off of the Medium Waitlist today! Hope for all those waitlisted, and congratulations to all on the High Waitlist
  18. 5 points

    Waitlist Thread 2019

    Got in off the wait list Thursday 11:07 am EST. I pretty much gave up hope before I got that email since it was over a month since May 14th. But clearly it’s not over yet! :)
  19. 5 points
    Just saw a funny meme and had to share it. When you get accepted into medicine after working towards it for years but have no money, no future direction and a bad case of imposter syndrome:
  20. 4 points

    Médecine 2019/Convocations

    UPDATE je viens de recevoir et payer le dépôt!!!!!! après 4 ans d'université finalement!!! lâchez pas tout le monde <3 j'étais 9e en LA dans le contingent bac connexe
  21. 4 points

    Low GPA to Med School Log

    Hello! I'm a new member here I figured I'll just write out my progression/journey so I can get some help and stay accountable. Year 1 of Undergrad (2015-2016,2017): I applied to U of T 4 years ago with the intention of becoming a doctor. My first year of undergrad went pretty horrible. I finished the first semester with a 2.18 sessional GPA, during the second semester I had a pretty bad mental breakdown and severe depression. I wasn't failing any courses I was probably in the 60s range, but for some reason I was just so done with life and one day I dropped all my courses. It took a few months to recover mentally. I ended up doing 2 summer courses and getting my first 4.0. After going back to school in September I felt my depression creeping in and was struggling, I had rather odd marks. Some classes I got 90s, others 50s or 60s. At the end of the year my gpa went up to 2.6 Year 2 of Undergrad (2017-2018): Entered second year feeling lost, after going through my mental struggles in first year I convinced myself I probably wasn't smart enough for med school. I decided to do a double major in neuroscience and psychology. I guess through experiencing depression and trauma I've developed a new interest in understanding the mind. I was considering the thought of going to grad school, which sorta motivated me, but I still had a lingering feeling of resentment within myself for messing up my shot at med school, or at least thats what it seemed like at the time. I genuinely felt like I couldn't do it, and gave up trying to pursue med school, even though that's what I wanted the most. Finished this year off with mid 70s, moving my gpa up to a 2.8. Year 3 of Undergrad (2018-2019): I ended up trying to look for research assistant positions in the summer, my gpa was too low to get into any psychology labs or neuro labs, and my unimpressive resume at the time did not help either. Couldn't manage to get a part time job too and felt utterly useless. I managed to get two friends last year who were in labs. They put in a good word and I got interviews for some positions. I ended up being accepted to do data entry at a clinical nutrition lab at a hospital. I did that during the fall semester on top of school, ended up getting mainly 80s and some high 70s for marks. This boosted my cgpa to a 2.92 (3.52 sessional GPA). In the winter semester, I started to feel depressed again, I learned that I wasn't that interested in research after all. I felt lost again during this time, I was holding onto the idea of grad school to keep me motivated as I realized that many schools only looked at the last two years so I still had a shot to get in. Since I decided that grad school isnt something id be interested in, I lost a lot of motivation for my studies. I still had the idea that I'm not smart enough for med school too. Ultimately I was not in a good mental state, I ended up dropping 2 courses the day before the midterm. My cgpa dropped to 2.89. Been doing a lot of reflecting and I think I removed myself from my opportunity to get into med school before it even started because i've slowly lost belief in myself over the years. I didn't think it was possible for me and other paths i've tried to pursue don't interest me. I've had constant thoughts about trying for med school surface in my mind over the years and I simply dismissed them because I didn't believe in myself. On my death bed I know my biggest regret in life would be giving up too soon on my dream to become a doctor. I am going to try my best to at least have a fighting chance. I made this post as a log to document my slow progression into med school. I don't know how many years it is going to take and I'm still working on a plan but I am going to try. Im 21 and i'm sick of living my life in quite desperation. I plan to do well in 4th year and 5th year or even take a 6th. Hopefully getting a 4.0. And try MCAT around 2022? I haven't worked out the details quite yet any advice is immensely appreciated. I'm new here and just trying to find my way.
  22. 4 points

    Flaws in the selection process

    Also, is anyone concerned that Altus Assessments, which provides CASPER, is a for-profit company founded by former McMaster admissions staff members? By the way, their rationale for implementing this test was based on papers they wrote themselves. Seems like a huge conflict of interest. Apparently the company has around 30 people, and this year they are set to provide over 100,000 tests across North America. At $50 bucks a test, they will be taking in $5 million gross revenue or a cool $167,000 per person. Seems like it's a sweet gig using your knowledge/connections in admissions to set up a nice money maker for yourself off of broke students. Not so much ethical.
  23. 4 points

    Marge Desjardins vs Banques

    Il ne snt pas tous jeunes !! certains ont des enfants/ du monde à leur charge !! C'est vrm pour ne pas avoir de problèmes au niveau d'une marge pas assez grande je pense
  24. 4 points
    At his court proceedings, this guy will quickly type out a detailed 300 word response at a rate of 120 WPM making sure to carefully assess all aspects of his situations and carefully craft a reply that takes into account different perspectives, doesn't hurt the judge's feelings, and provides a best outcome for everybody.
  25. 4 points
    Yup. Hardly spamming.
  26. 4 points

    Flaws in the selection process

    No, unfortunately that is not the case. CASPer and MMI select for those who either truly have the target attributes or those that are able to convince the system that they have those attributes. Also, the attributes do not necessarily have any relation to whether you are perverted, racist, etc... I am not surprised by this. After several application cycles, I have learned that getting into med school has a lot to do with conveying the "right" persona. It does not matter so much if you are a homophobic, misogynist, racist asshole; if the interviewer believes you are a wholesome applicant they will admit you. I personally know several people who have these despicable qualities and still got accepted to an Ontario med school because they prepared well for the interview, said the right things at the right time, and portrayed themselves the right way. Of course, the interviewers cannot necessarily be blamed for letting these applicants in (after all, they are not all expert psychiatrists), but the selection process is standardized in a sense that it targets very specific attributes that can be learned, faked, and possibly mastered. For example, consider John; he is a perverted asshole who harasses women. He also has prepared well for the MMI with many months of prep. He knows how to approach each station and the kind of reasoning expected of him in his responses. He is also very confident, has a nice smile and articulates himself very well. When MMI comes around, he performs well and gets accepted. Meanwhile, another applicant, Alex, is a very respectable man. He treats others with respect, is a good listener, and an open-minded person in general. But he is not as confident as John, and he doesn't articulate himself very well. He also doesn't prepare well for the MMI. when the day comes, he doesn't consider all sides of the argument to each scenario. He doesn't get accepted. I'm not saying that the MMI is completely flawed, and that every asshole gets through the system. There are tons of qualified applicants with amazing personalities who make it in, but the truth is that the system is not perfect and that at the end of the day, getting an acceptance to medical school is in no way a determinant of who is a good person and who is not. It is simply another test that you must pass.
  27. 4 points
    Why? OMT is bunk science that thankfully seems to be dying due to its lack of efficacy.
  28. 4 points
    You can dm me if you want, 5 time applicant, didn’t get interviews until the 4th time
  29. 4 points
    Ahhh the star......if it was up to them, there would be no physicians in the country and health outcomes would be perfect as a result. They sell papers by doctor bashing. No citation on that data, so as far as we know, someone made it up. And those patients the NP is seeing are low acuity, uncomplicated patients. People are gonna be happy when you give them a birth control refill or treat an uncomplicated UTI. They are gonna be less happy when they are a poorly controlled T2DM and you are telling them they have to lose weight and exercise, while at the same timing starting insulin and piling extra BP meds on them to try and prevent an MI. On top of that, there are good studies out of the US that shows patient satisfaction (at least during hospitalization) is inversely related to outcomes. Satisfaction is a terrible metric to use to judge performance. It has nothing to do with actual outcomes that matter (survival, glucose control, time till recurrence etc). The Star is anti-doctor. Everyone knows it. Unfortunately, the OMA has done a crap job with public relations in Ontario and now they are paying the price.
  30. 4 points
    I was rejected from Ottawa pre-interview, Toronto and McMaster post interview and waitlisted (and eventually rejected) from queens the first time I applied. I cried and I was really unhappy applying again. HOWEVER, I tried again the next cycle, I was interviewed at 10 schools, went to 8 of them and was accepted by 4, waitlisted by 3 and rejected by 1. One of my acceptances was to an MD/PhD program. honestly, being rejected the first time was huge in my personal development and learning how to cope with failure and disappointment. It helped me grow as a person and made me consider other options that would make me happy outside of medicine. Once I realized that there were other things that would make me happy, I was able to approach the application process differently (healthier and more mature) and I think it showed in my interview. Chin up everyone! You got and interview. It didn’t work out his time, but for most applicants it doesn’t work out the first time! The med schools will have to watch out next year! After all, they will be dealing with a stronger, older and wiser version of you!
  31. 4 points

    Waitlist Support Thread - 2019

    Persistence and perseverance will serve you all well. Whether it’s in medicine or not. As was said, getting an interview is such a huge hurdle, on paper they want you. Just gotta show them in person that you’d be an amazing person and doctor (some people are not amazing or social mature enough to do well in interviews so having strong self awareness is important). Do what you need to do to deal with the news for however long, but don’t let it consume you. Life will go on, enjoy it, and start the next cycle fresh. This is coming from a 5 time applicant. You got this :).
  32. 4 points
    I want everyone here to say outloud (yes say it, don’t just think it) that you WILL get there. As you just said, a couple of years in the grand scheme of things isn’t huge when we’re talking about pursuing your life’s dream. Take this as an opportunity, or another opportunity for many others, as a time to grow, to self-actualize, to pursue interests outside of just the typical premed activities. You won’t have another opportunity like this once you finally do get in. After medical school, it’s residency, it’s family (if you plan on having one), etc. Your entire life essentially will already be set in stone. Whereas now, you have a chance to do whatever your heart pleases while building up necessary skills and experience for your application. Take this from a person who got rejected first cycle, then took a gap cycle and then finally reapplied the next. It hurts, I can imagine, but the amount of stuff I’ve been able to do when I took a gap etc was amazing. I feel so much more mentally prepared to take this on than I ever did right out of my undergrad. Best of luck to everyone here, please feel free to reach out if you just want a pair of ears and/or to converse about life and this premed journey.
  33. 4 points
    Honestly unbelievable how many medical students are awful at functioning as adults. I know some who are still living at home for medical school, and are hoping to match to their home institution for residency so that they can continue living at home. At a certain point, I think you just need to bite the bullet and move out. Yes, it means spending money on rent, but it also makes you so much more independent. You can't live with your parents forever, and they also won't be able to do your laundry, cleaning and cooking forever. At some point, you just need to grow up. Rant over, thanks for listening.
  34. 4 points
    If you are looking at large centers, there are no surgical specialties with good job prospects. Competition for jobs in big cities is intense. Even if you do a fellowship, lots of research and an advanced academic degree, luck stil has a huge role in landing a position. You need to be lucky to have a spot open up when you are entering the job market. Those spots don't open up all that often. You also have to be lucky enough the group gets along with you. You could be the best kind of person but if you don't mesh with the group dynamics at the time, you won't get a look in. Plus there will be multiple other people like you who want the job. My advice with choosing a surgical specialty (or any specialty involving lots of hospital resources) is to make sure you would be happy doing that specialty in a community job ANYWHERE in the country (rural NL, Northern Saskachewan, Northwestern Ontario etc.). If you more value a location (urban center, specific city etc.), pick a specialty that can exist with minimal affiliation with a hospital (family, psych, general internal etc). Think very hard about your priorities because once you match, it's hard to change your path in life.
  35. 4 points

    A flawed process?

    Medical school admissions will always be imperfect. People that would have made fantastic physicians will continue to get rejected and people that should never be physicians will continue to get accepted. However, the opposite is true as well, and hopefully, the majority (from my experience), are great candidates. I completely agree though how frusterating it is to watch great people get rejected. What I do find hopeful however, is that medical schools continue to refine their admissions process. They continually try to improve it and seem to keep shifting their focus towards trying to find good candidates rather than just good grades (which seemed to be a lot more important in the past). Ideally the medical school admissions teams would know each candidate personally, but that's not possible and I think that it would just breed corruption. I also agree that it would be great to be able to see how candidates performed in medical school/as residents but that would be a huge investment and waste of time for people who weren't selected at the end. Despite our imperfect system the main thing I appreciate about Canadian medical schools is that admission is the main rate limiting step to becoming a doctor. That is, its actually far more difficult to get accepted into medical school because the bar is so high than to make it through medical school and get a residency (I mean in terms of probabilities not hard work). Imagine instead a different system where almost everyone gets accepted but then lets say only 50% graduate or get a residency. Our Canadian system, with its tough admission, seems more cruel at first glance but in reality our system lets you live your life and choose other options (including reapplying) when you are rejected rather than letting everyone in and wasting an incredible amount of time and money for candidates that eventually are not selected. There are other countries where being accepted into medical school is not the rate limiting step and from my opinion that is a much more cruel and stressful system and it requires a much bigger investment. In the end, I wish medical school admissions could somehow know the amazing people they reject every year. It sucks and its imperfect but they are trying to improve and it's their loss not the persons when they reject those people.
  36. 3 points
    Ontario student here, here is how I see it... 1) You have a pretty great 2yr GPA, which puts you in good standing with Western's program. Your 3yr GPA is fairly good, meaning you could have a shot at UofT (they changed their admissions process to include CASPer, so that may lower the gpa requirement they have had for the past few years) 2) Your next focus should be the DAT. Aiming for a 20+ or even 21+ across the board will really benefit your entire application. A good score and your GPA will give you a solid foundation for this upcoming round. 3) Work with the extracurriculars you have. It's always great to get new experiences and fill up your CV but, it is more important that you self reflect on your previous experiences and really understand what you have gained from them. Varsity athlete? Great, start thinking about team work, commitment etc.. Apply this to the remainder of your list. That being said, one thing I would strongly recommend is shadowing. Make sure you spend a day or two with a dentist/dental office to see if the career will be a good fit. Overall, I think you have a pretty decent shot at getting into a school in Ontario. Hope this helps!
  37. 3 points
    Don’t forget about the 132 in CARS required to critically assess the placement of cameras
  38. 3 points

    How do you deal with rejection?

    I hear your pain. Would it help to shift your focus slightly differently -- admission to medical school is not the end goal, and ultimately practicing medicine and being a damn good doctor for your patients is? I know the former is a prerequisite to the latter, but think of all that life experience you are having right now. It may not seem much right now, but among other things, you are learning humility and empathy and the fact that there is a much bigger world out there, one that patients live in. Try not to compare yourself with others. I wish you good luck.
  39. 3 points

    DMD 2019

    L'horaire de la semaine avant la rentrée est maintenant disponible ! (pour les 1ères année) http://www.medent.umontreal.ca/pdf/fr/horaires/rentree/horaire-special-1e-A2019.pdf
  40. 3 points

    PharmD ou med vet?

    Moi je prendrai pharma quand même honnetement. Si cela fait déjà quelques fois que tu essaye, je ne prendrai pas le risque de perdre une année encore. Tente pharmacie, tu va sûrement aimer, et tente d avoir de bonnes notes. J ai des amis qui sont passés de pharmacie à médecine.. donc si tu travail nuit et jour, bah c'est faisable. Mais ne crache pas sur l'avenir en pharmacie tout de même
  41. 3 points
    Physician billings account for ~8% of the total provincial budget, which is approximately the same amount it spends on paying off INTEREST on debt. Considering most of the healthcare SERVICES are offered by physicians, is this still considered a high number? Physicians are often vilified for their "high" billings. However, the truth is that physician billings have been cut (in relative terms) since 2017. For those who criticize physician billings publicly, I see no mention about the issue of rapidly rising costs of drugs, and even fewer attempt to tackle this. It is unfortunate that physicians make easy targets while pharmaceutical companies avoid this due to the facade of "R&D" costs.
  42. 3 points

    Chances d'entrer au PharmD

    Ce n'est pas une question d'instinct. C'est plutôt une question de maturité, de professionalisme, etc. Prépare beaucoup de situations personnelles qui ont fait de toi la personne que tu es aujourd'hui et pratique des scénarios en ligne. Prends l'avis de professionnels par rapport à tes réponses. Souvent, il faut être compréhensif, considérer les opinions/sentiments de tout le monde et proposer la solution qui cause le moins de mal à tous (ou qui cause du bien au plus grand nombre).
  43. 3 points
    It's kind of hard to talk objectively about this issue on a board filled with premeds and medical students. I definitely don't think this system is sustainable, if we're going to continue to offer healthcare to everyone (which we should) then something needs to give. I can't think of any other industrialized nation in the world that pays it's doctors the rates at which we do in North America. I think that's an area that should be looked into more going forward by policy makers, though it's going to be tough when we have to compete with the US system to retain our physicians. It's hard to imagine that there is ever a situation which justifies a physician billing the government for millions of dollars. There are world class physicians in Europe working just as hard while making a fraction of that. I don't know what the answers are but I definitely know things can't go on like this. Our number one priority should be maintaining the integrity of the system, not maintaining physician salaries.
  44. 3 points
    Not sure I like these changes. Personally, I think U of T should decrease the weight they give GPA, not the MCAT.
  45. 3 points

    Spring break

  46. 3 points

    McMaster Waitlist Party

    I get what you mean CoffeeOtter. I made peace a while back as well. But before that it was definitely hard being in limbo like this and constantly checking to see other people getting in. But now it's kind of like getting closure, I guess. I'm gonna be working and maybe doing some research or volunteering on the side, and writing my applications again.
  47. 3 points
    I hope everyone here gets into Pharm! If you guys are here getting insight and what not, you guys deserve it.
  48. 3 points
    That's a big ask
  49. 3 points

    2019 IP Waitlist

    Well, I did it, guys. I've been informed that my one year deferral request was granted, and asked to confirm I really wanted to defer before my seat is released to the next applicant. I gave them the green light, but the office is now closed until Monday. This means for sure one of you is getting an offer Monday. As someone who's been on the waitlist both last year and this year until being offered a seat in June of this year, I know how hopeless it can feel. Don't give up, I believe in you!
  50. 3 points

    A flawed process?

    Read up Marsha Barber's article written in 2016: https://www.universityaffairs.ca/features/feature-article/medical-school-admissions-process-skewed/. Some of your points do align with her article and how she saw the process unfold for her son. I also want to say that every year, med schools get great applicants but unfortunately not everyone can get through. Many factors are outside the applicant's control as well. Despite Canada in great need for primary care, the federal and provincial governments are limiting (and also looking to cut) down on educational and occupational funding for healthcare. The result? A reduction in employment, reduction in residency spots, a CAPPING of MD seats due to limited residency spots...the spiral chain continues further down. In regards to "people who you thought would get in and those who you thought wouldn't ended up getting in", I found that people who were often (for a lack of a better word), ARROGANT, were the one's who tend to show more confidence in their interview skills. Once you get to the interview stage, it's all about being confident in who you are and being to portray yourself and again "gaming" the system. Some people are good at lying at interviews and about their experiences with a straight face - this happens in all types of interviews whether it be a job or med school. Would they eventually make a good doctor? Probably not. But in the moment, the interviewer could think he/she makes an amazing physicians. Remember they got through 1 gate, but not the 2nd gate, being residency. I have known an individual who got into med school, being arrogant and lying his way through to an acceptance...but where did he ended up? Being rejected from all the residency positions he applied to. Also, I am going to bring up sociological factors here. Socioeconomic status differences provide different levels of thinking often with low SES being more empathetic due to the personal experiences they experience themselves - this could also mean that they are more aware and react more emotionally on what's going on around them. At times, this may or may not be the best for interviews as many distractors can be thrown your way to phase you out. Also, at the interview stage, I commonly believe those from the admission committee from a high SES background will never TRULY and FULLY understand what these people go through. I really do advocate for more diversity in the process - having members of the committee being from a low SES background, on a panel and/or a few MMI stations. I have literally met a few practicing doctors, both younger and older, who have dismissed cultural factors and made indirect racial comments towards my family for seeking medical care - these physicians were simply culturally incompetent and rude. Luckily, med admissions is starting to notice the trend in their admissions. Although, we will likely not see a significant change immediately in the doctor population, we are gradually shifting towards a better approach with expected change in the distant future.
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