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  1. 27 points
    I got mixed responses when I asked if I should do this but I did it anyways. I ended up sounding like fucking shrek so I do not advise doing this. Hopefully the interviewers thought I had a speech impediment or something
  2. 26 points
    I CANT BREATHE. I CANT BREATHE. ACCEPTED. 5th time applying, 2nd time interviewing , IP Guys never fucking give up. I have two undergrads, I'm doing my masters, I redid 4 of my cegep classes (yes i was 25 and hustling it in cegep). 3,8 science GPA. IM OFF RUNNING SOMEWHERE SCREAMING THAT IM HAPPY. PM me for anything.
  3. 26 points

    Success Stories- Non Trad Style!

    It’s going to be a long one. I wrote all of this before I got in, because there is something wonderfully raw and vulnerable about documenting my reflections while I’m still on the outside looking in. I knew that if I was unsuccessful this cycle, I would still read it to remind myself of how far I’ve come. -- My non-trad path is nothing unusual- I suppose I am just a late bloomer who paid her dues after the fact. The biggest challenge for me, throughout this whole journey, was lacking the protective factors to cushion the falls. I have been financially independent, which means choices were often made to have a financial safety net rather than for improving my med school applications. I had no one within my social network to guide me; my family has not been supportive of my decisions, so I felt like I could never turn to them (as of now they still don’t know that I interviewed and got accepted). This forum taught me everything I needed to know about getting into medical school, and that being a physician is still a possibility for someone like me. I began university when I was 18, completely lacking in self-awareness and nowhere near ready to make any sort of decisions about my future. I went to UofT for life sciences. There’s that joke: “How many UofT students does it take to change a light bulb? Four; one to change it and three to crack under the pressure”. Well, I was one of the three. My time at UofT was the closest I’d come to being depressed. My marks were atrocious; I felt worthless and incompetent all the time. My family didn’t understand- and didn’t know how to- help me; no one told me “you should stop and figure your shit out before completely ruining your transcript”. I tried going to counselling but felt like I was not being listened to, so I never went back. Something was very wrong, I didn’t know what or how to fix it. Things at home were bad. In my final year, I cut all financial ties with my parents, and moved out- I needed to become my own person. The independence was exhilarating. The financial stress was real, but my mental health also improved 100%, and I gained the energy and mental clarity to finally start thinking about what I wanted in life. Unfortunately, at this point my marks (cGPA of 3.1, no year above 3.5) were useless for any post-grad program. I applied to Michener’s medical radiation program, a second-entry bachelor program, to become an X-ray tech. I got accepted, but opted to not attend-- for the first time, I thought about what I wanted in my career, and decided it was not for me. I decided to take a year off and consider other second degree options. I started to look into becoming a dietitian (other RDs on this forum, like Real Beef, were very helpful). This would be a competitive process with a lot more uncertainty than going to Michener. I had a lot to prove and nothing to show for it. I used the year to work several minimum wage jobs in healthcare to save up money for a year of unpaid dietetic internship that would follow my second undergrad, while getting volunteer experience in nutrition to start building my resume for dietetic internship applications. I started my second degree in nutrition with a lot of self-doubt. After UofT, I was uncertain that I could even pull off low 80s. I was sure that everyone was smarter than me, and that I was the loser who flunked a whole degree but still couldn’t keep up. But I also had a level of mental clarity and focus that I’d never felt before. And low and behold, I ended up finishing my first year with the highest average in my program. A 3.94. It was then that I realized I was onto something-for the first time, it seemed like medicine could be a possibility. I decided to extend my second degree into 3 years, to be eligible for Ottawa (ironically, I never interviewed at Ottawa), while building my application for dietetic internships. This led me to different opportunities in leadership, teaching, and working with low SES populations. After 2 years into my second degree, I wrote the MCAT while working full-time and self-teaching myself the material despite taking (and flunking) my pre-reqs 4-5 years before that. I was pleasantly surprised with a balanced 514 (however, with a CARS of 128, it was never good enough for Western). The year after, I graduated from my second degree with the highest cumulative average in my program. It took me 3 cycles to get my first and only interview at Queen’s. During my second cycle, I was completing my dietetic internship, which provided many opportunities to gain clinical and counselling skills, work with marginalized populations, lead QI projects, and work within interdisciplinary teams- I learned more about my interest and suitability for medicine in this 1 year than I had in my whole life prior to this. Internship was hard work, but also gave me small boosts of confidence and signs I am not a complete dumbass (e.g. a nephrologist who had no idea that I was applying to med, after listening to my renal case presentation, told me how impressed he was that I’ve shown level of knowledge that he’d only expect from a senior medical resident; 2 of my preceptors said that in their 10-20 years teaching, they’ve never seen a student work so hard to improve herself and be so dedicated to her patients; rotation after rotation I was praised for my critical thinking skills and natural ease in developing rapport with patients). This wasn’t just about ticking off boxes to get into med, but about developing my passion for hands-on learning and learning about my strengths and weaknesses as a professional. For the first time in my life, I thought “maybe I am good enough to become a doctor.” When I submitted my application for the third cycle, I had just graduated from internship and started working in public health in Northern Ontario. I moved here because I wanted to continue to step outside of my comfort zone. I wanted to do more advocacy and upstream work, and this was the place to do it. At around the time of decision day, I had applied to RD jobs in Alberta to gain IP status for U of C. So here’s what I’ve learned in the last five years: · Know yourself. Know your identity outside of being a premed. Figure out what your values are, what kind of a person you want to be, what drives you to take action, what triggers your mind to go down dark rabbit holes. This takes time and effort, and self-reflection from life experiences, but it helps to build resilience against the hurdles along the application process, medical training, and set-backs life in general. Knowing who you are and what you have to offer the world protects you against having your self-esteem and identity shattered when things don’t go as you had hoped; it gives you the courage to say “let’s try again.” when the world seems to tells you “you are not good enough.” Similarly, I hear too often that when people have spent their whole life dedicated to getting into med school, that when they finally get in, they feel a bit lost- “now what?”. I suppose that happens when you see getting in as a final destination rather than one of the stops along a never-ending journey of building yourself up. People around me couldn’t fathom where I got the persistence to keep at it despite facing setbacks and watching the years go by. It’s because I knew there is nothing valuable that a rejection can take away from me. I have been building myself up as a person. I am still going to be me, no matter what happens inside that interview room, and what May 8th brings. I still possess all the traits that I worked hard to develop and love about myself- my grit, self-awareness, intellectual curiosity, empathy, open-mindedness- and these are all going to carry me far in life, medicine or not. No rejection letter can take that away from me. · Figure out what you want to accomplish in medicine, outside of medicine. I always ask myself: what's appealing about a career as a physician, and how can I try to achieve it through another route? What skills do I want to use on a day to day basis in my career? What core values and beliefs will motivate me to do what I do in my career? I think reflecting on this helps to flesh out your motivations for pursuing medicine, helps to identify alternative career paths, and should you pursue an alternative path while you reapply, helps you to gain insights and skills that will be useful for medicine. Hopefully the adcoms will recognize this. If not, well, at least your satisfaction with your alternative path will still be pretty high. · Be kind to yourself. The playing field is not even, and you don’t need to add an additional layer of self-inflicted cruelty to the mix. It’s ok to not feel 100% determined all the time. When the self-doubt starts to creep in, sit on it, talk to someone (in my opinion, everyone should have a therapist). Use the insights from the above 2 points to ground yourself and as motivation to keep going. · Develop yourself in areas outside of academics. What saved me was working minimum wage jobs since I was 16 (I actually started out cleaning bathrooms, after I was fired from scooping ice cream for being too socially inept. True story.). 75% of my activities on my ABS were employment. I had to work, because I did not come from a background as privileged as that of many premeds. If the circumstances were different, perhaps I would’ve gotten in earlier. But the real world was the best teacher I’ve ever had- it helped me develop financial independence and literacy, character, resilience, and interpersonal skills that helped me along every step of this journey. It helped to shape my convictions of the kind of physician, what kind of person, I want to be. Ease yourself into uncomfortable situations today to build resilience against shit-hitting-the-fan moments later in life. --- I also want to say that sometimes on these forums, we read non-trad stories and it seems like people were 100% determined from the get-go while they stayed on this one path for 4-10 years. I know I wasn’t…and that’s ok. As a non-trad, you have more life decisions to make along your journey, some big, some small. I know that I had to make many decisions over the years to favour either my nutrition career, chances for med school, or my personal life- many times, these three conflicted. There’s no right way to go about it- it depends on your risk tolerance, other responsibilities in life, and priorities. Know yourself…this is so, so important. I feel so privileged that everything in my life lined up so perfectly to allow me to pursue this path long enough to eventually get accepted. I’m always happy to chat about second degrees, being an RD, or anything related. Stay positive and kind to yourself, PM101.
  4. 20 points

    What is everybody using at med school?

    I've tried both and found that the iPad Pro has better hardware (Apple Pencil, longer battery, better display) and software (Notability, and although the surface has desktop Microsoft office with full features, I prefer the simpler mobile versions). With the iPad Pro, I was torn between using Notability vs OneNote. Notability has superior annotation, functional auto-sync to pdf, OneNote has better organization, infinite scroll in both x and y planes. So rather than choosing a compromise, I've ended up using both: Notability for in-class notes and OneNote for studying. Let me demonstrate what that looks like: Downloading the pdf/lecture file is easier on iPad (vs laptops) because you open it in the browser and tap "Open in Notability". This iniates multiple steps at once; it downloads the file, opens it in Notability, creates a pdf back-up in google drive that gets updated in real time as you take notes. All with one click. After class you get this: Then after class, you just tap the share button on the top left corner and with one tap save it in OneNote. Later when you're studying, you'll have room the ability to add additional subpages if necessary (Notability doesn't have this, see example below) and make additional comments/add resources on the side (see example below). You can also still annotate further: This system has worked beautifully for me so far. Let me know if you have any questions!
  5. 19 points
    If people are wanting to take legal action regarding a single medical school rejection, then I think admissions is doing their job correctly in keeping you out.
  6. 19 points
    6th time applying, 3rd time interviewing, still in shock to be posting this... Time Stamp: 12:25 PST Accepted, VFMP (first choice) AGPA: 86.55% MCAT: 512 (balanced, 129 CARS) ECs: Student government, orientations leader, crisis line volunteer, volunteering with various charities, hospital, lab assistant at various research labs (paid), CIHR funding for a summer, working at a gas station, currently working as a policy analyst for government, and a few very random but unique hobbies (honestly could have either really helped or not counted for anything, they're pretty out there) Geography: IP Year: BSc completed 2013, Master's completed 2016, currently working full-time Interview: Honestly felt like the best interview I've ever had, and I've done 12 (!) of them in the past 5 years. I walked out of every station this year feeling pretty good, and knew I absolutely nailed at least two of them (the acting station went almost perfectly, and there was one where I really felt I connected with the interviewer). There were some that were probably average, but I didn't feel like I bombed any of them - which was a first. Usually I walk out of them unsure and crossing my fingers that things worked out (it never did), this time was completely different. Stats from last year: NAQ: 29.00 AQ: 25.58 TFR: 54.58 Interview: Below Average (below average the year before as well) I feel so blessed to have finally received an acceptance to a Canadian medical school. I've been applying for years now, and have been given so many opportunities - which I always ended up blowing. I've interviewed at UBC the past 3 years, but I've interviewed at Calgary, McMaster, Alberta, and Saskatchewan (I had a really high old MCAT score) over the years. May has consistently been the worst month of the year for me, and last year was especially awful because I spent a lot of time practicing - every week for a couple hours since the previous summer - and still received a rejection. That was a pretty low point in my life tbh. The practice did help, but I think the thing really holding me back was my lack of maturity. I had always been very academically focused, and to be honest hadn't really had a chance to live a life. I think doing that the past few years - falling in love, going to bars with friends, arguing about politics, moving to my own place and dealing with laundry and dinner - has really helped me grow as a person, and I think permanently changed who I am. I went into each of those stations as if I was talking to my girlfriend about an interesting topic over lunch. I had fully formed opinions and thoughts on subjects because I'd argued about these things over beer with friends (and on reddit). I'd had cool experiences to talk about not just from volunteer activities, but also from disagreements with a roommate or co-workers, or from moving across the country for a master's program. Anyway, wanted to get that off my chest. This year really did feel different, and I'm glad it ended up being different. I interviewed at Calgary as well this year but felt terrible after (question style is very different from UBC imo, which I focused my preparation for), and got a rejection. I also interviewed at a US school and received an acceptance, but the tuition kind of terrifies me so I was still really stressed out this week. To those who didn't get an offer this year, trust me when I say I know how it feels. I've had a lot of experience trying to improve my application over the years, so if anyone wants some advice, or even just to chat or rant, please reach out through PM. This process really involves a lot of luck, and there are so many amazing people who don't get accepted every year. If you really want this, it'll happen eventually.
  7. 18 points

    2017 Backpack?

    LEGOLAS, WHAT DO YOUR CALGARIAN EYES SEE? Edit: okay wow I just now read the entire thread and realized how serious this got. Oops.
  8. 17 points

    May 14 Countdown

    The Cycle of Waiting 1. Hoping: “I have good stats, I think! I did okay in the interview...let me check the Accepted/Rejected/Waitlist thread again...” 2. Imagining: “If I get in, what will I do? Who do I tell first? What do I put on my Facebook? Omg I’d have to quit my job. Would I cry?.” 3. Someone asks you “What’s up?” or “How are you doing?” Or EVEN WORSE: “Any word yet?” This derails your confidence immediately. 4. Racing Heart: “crap crap crap what if I don’t get in? I’d have to tell everyone right? I’d have to start over...I’d have to retake the MCAT.” *lurks on PM101, r/MCAT and r/premed to torture self* 5. Wallowing: “I am not a competitive applicant. I shouldn’t have applied. I wonder what the career prospects are like for goat herding?” *aggressive googling* *cycles through memory of the interview for the trillionth time* *spends weirdly long time reading the medical school website when you’ve memorized it already* *a lot of sighing* 6. Try to Distract Yourself: Start reading books you’ve read already, start going on weird subreddit and YouTube spirals, start researching alpaca farming. “I wonder what Snooki is up to these days?” Wallow/Hoping cycle begins again. You wonder if you should’ve just gone into banking or teaching or public service like everyone else. More sighing. You go on YouTube again. 6. The cycle restarts.
  9. 16 points
  10. 16 points
    Result: Accepted Geography: OOP GPA: 3.96 MCAT: 508 (129 CARS) <--Yes, you can get in with a low MCAT as an OOP! Degree: Bachelors of Commerce (2012) (No science prereqs) E.C: Non-trad applicant. Years of work experience in Investment Banking, Travel Agency. My volunteering activities are mainly cultural or entrepreneurship related. Won some top-level business awards. Black belt in Taekwondo. Grew up working on a farm. Traveled to over 35 countries. Fitness Mentor/Advocate. (No research at all) Interview: Felt most prepared for the U of A interview as it was my last of 3. The questions were more straightforward than UBC or McMaster. I really, really enjoyed the panel. I felt like I finally had a chance to talk about myself and show my personality. The panel interviewers were very nice and conversational as well. I felt iffy on the MMI. On 2-3 stations I did blah and the rest of I did okay. I think my ECs and Panel Interview really pulled through for me. I'm just so grateful right now to have received this opportunity. As I am writing this, I still can't believe it. After 6 years of contemplation, denial, and self-doubt, I finally now get the chance to become a doctor. When I found out that the results were released on this forum, I was at my desk at work. I literally just got up and ran out the door. I nervously tried to login to my account and ended up keying my password wrong 3 times. To avoid getting locked out, I had to call my fiancee to check my result on my home laptop where the password was already saved. When he read the admission decision to me over the phone, I crumbled to my knees and started crying. It was an unbelievable moment. I felt all the worry, pain, and doubt just wash away. I'm sure everyone that walked past me thought I was crazy. But I didn't care. This was the best day of my life. We are, at any moment, capable of pursuing our dreams. - The Alchemist, Paulo Coelho If medicine is your dream, don't give up. Never, ever give up.
  11. 15 points

    Waitlist Thread 2019

    I just want to take a few minutes to thank the many people on this forum who have been available to me over the past few years, months, and (especially) weeks. Without going into too much detail, I wanted to share that I had a difficult experience a few years ago that changed me as a person and set me back several years. When I first decided to pursue this field, very few people in my personal life believed I could do it. It wasn’t until I found this community that I was bombarded by a constant stream of advice, encouragement, comfort, and support. All I can think to say right now is thank you. Thank you to the many people who have reached out to me via PM, on this thread, and on others to calm my fears and worries, share their strength, and give hope. Thank you for teaching me to believe in myself when no one else did. Thank you for disproving the premed stereotype. Just thank you. I promise I will pay it forward. To current/future applicants: If this is your dream and you are sincere in your intentions and efforts, it WILL happen for you. You are already enough. Continue striving to be the best version of yourself. And during those late night studying sessions and weekend lab hours when you’re asking yourself “Is this worth it?,” I want you to know: Yes it is.
  12. 15 points
    I don't usually post my stats anymore since they've basically remained the same from my posts 2 years ago. I'll make an exception in this time just because of how -relatively- little data usually gets contributed here. TIME STAMP: Feb 21 2019, 11:17 EST Interview Date: March 30 Result: Interview (MD) cGPA: 3.96 (by rounding) MCAT: Passed cutoffs ECs: Filled up all 32 items this year, but I've had an interview back when I had 21/48 items. Diverse and met each of UofT's clusters quite well. Essays: Spent at least 1.5 months on them, at least 400 hours. Was it overkill? To be honest, probably. I'm not a bad writer by any means, but when it comes to pieces with word limits, I believe in the importance of articulating each idea as succulently and artistically as possible. My grades did suffer but I wanted to write essays that could stand strong among a diverse audience of readers (which is to be reasonably expected of) and leave myself without regret. All of the topics strongly resonated with my experiences and I had a lot to share. If anything, future readers should find this observation helpful: having exchanged essay reviewing with some of my friends, I've come to realize that there isn't a single, uniform writing style that really makes the magic happen. Some of my friends briefly addressed the question within a single few sentences, then built their entire essays on how their experiences met the four clusters. Personally, I dedicated almost half my word count towards giving a thorough answer/solution before briefly sharing some personal experiences. We all got an interview. Year: Graduated UG Geography: OOP Two years ago, I did horribly on my interview. I knew my application wasn't strong: I had a weak reference, few extracurriculars and ultimately, couldn't hold up to applicants with an amazing wealth of experience behind them. I was invited during the final week and suspected that I had only marginally scraped into getting an interview. I convinced myself that the odds weren't in my favour and let myself fall. Last year I didn't take my essays as seriously enough and got rejected March 16th. Firstly, the topics just didn't click with my experiences. Secondly, seeing that I already had been previously been invited, I grew extremely over-confident and complacent in my writing. I got no interviews from any school during this year. Each interview is a privilege. Each year, med schools get more and more amazing applications, either from those who have come back strong after a previous rejection, or new talented applicants. Perhaps I'm just on this site too often, but getting accepted 4th year doesn't seem as common as it once was. In any case, I'm extremely grateful to have another chance of making things right.
  13. 15 points

    GPA no longer considered (!!!!)

    @YesIcan55 I'm sorry but it's disgusting how insulting you've been our high GPA and/or young classmates. These "19 to 20 year olds" were among some of the best students in our class personally.....I speak for those in my class at least when I say that they are some of the most diligent and well rounded individuals, who are qualified to interact with patients. Not to mention.... there's like < or = to 5 in a class of ~162..... like come on ... Or the fact that the 4.0 students "spent days in their room"..... does that explain how despite the average hovering between 3.90 and 3.96 across the country that a majority of those students just study??? are you for real? I didn't have a high GPA going into medical school but never thought those that had a higher GPA were less social than I was... if anything, having a low GPA was my fault and I should have done better. If you want to make jabs at people at least have some actual sources/evidence before you make a claim like above. You have done this repeatedly in your posts.... whether it's looking down on typical science grads, or think med students feel "high and mighty" just because we got into a school in Canada, and now trying to put down people with a high GPA and marginalizing their hard work while trying to justify your cognitive dissonance with your warped perception ... We get you're upset with not getting into medical school and that sucks given the work you put into it, ... but seriously stop trying insulting those that have. - G
  14. 14 points

    May 14 Countdown

    Kawhi Leonard is my daddy
  15. 14 points

    Queens MD Invites/Regrets 2018

    Result: Invite! Time Stamp: Jan 31. 2:57 PM Interview Date: TBD wGPA/cGPA: 3.97 Year: 4th year Undergrad MCAT: 518 (131/126/130/131) ECs: See previous posts Geography: IP Can't believe I finally got an interview here. It feels so fuckin good to finally feel rewarded after writing the MCAT 5 times over 4 of the past 5 summers. I'm also shocked that I'm sitting here with 3 interviews after spending my past 5 years telling myself Ottawa will be the only shot that I'll get.
  16. 13 points

    May 14 Countdown

  17. 13 points
    Hi - although your distressing past experiences have left an impact on you, you have evidently had the strength to move on and make a fresh start, developing satisfying interpersonal relationships and succeeding in gaining admission to medical school. You should be commended on rising above your previous experiences and living well as a way of overcoming the actions of those who tried to put you down. If you let them hold you back now, it would negate the gains you have made, effectively letting them 'win.' You may be surprised - people may develop more moral conscience as they mature, and could regret their previous actions. However, even if they don't, you don't need your classmates to successfully get through medical school. Interacting with people going through the same experiences as you is not necessarily a blessing, as it can also mean competition. Most schools will have student advisors and students from upper years to provide guidance. For emotional support, you have your family and friends outside medical school. Don't worry about socializing in medical school - your goal is to become a doctor, so just pass your exams in pre-clerkship and conduct yourself professionally throughout your clerkship rotations. Maintain a polite distance from your former classmates and if anyone instigates trouble, they can be held accountable for lapses in professionalism. However, hopefully nothing of the sort will happen, as again the teen/early adult years are a period of maturation, and if nothing else, people at this stage should be more reluctant to be involved in anything that could harm their careers. There will be other students in your medical school class, and hopefully you can find a like-minded individual or individuals, but if not, it is not a big deal. The four years are busy and will be over before you know it, and then you can make a fresh start in residency.
  18. 13 points
  19. 12 points
    Just wanted to point out that in order to "choose money over medicine", one would have to be accepted into medical school first. You can't truly choose between two options if you are only offered one option.
  20. 12 points
    I can’t believe this. I got in. I’m outside the office on my knees and crying. Everyone thinks I’m crazy. This is the best day of my life.
  21. 12 points
    So after my 9th rejection for this cycle alone, I decided to celebrate with Chinese food and here's what came out of my fortune cookie. The universe is literally trolling me.
  22. 12 points
    You are missing the point of references. Its about who you are not who they are.
  23. 11 points

    To those who got refused

    Even though she doesn't speak about medicine per say, I found her message valuable and thought I'd share it with my fellow candidates. It might help some of you cope with rejection and to not give up on your dream even when it seems unattainable.
  24. 11 points

    LA universitaire

    Dude. Est-ce que tu peux arrêter de spammer tous les forums avec cette question? J'ai reçu un offre d'admission, mais l'attente est très pénible pour certain et ce genre de commentaire constant ajoute au stress des personnes sur les listes d'attente. Les personnes sur les listes d'attente sont les premières informées lorsqu'une place se libère. Ce sera le cas pour ton ami.e également. Sois patient et respecte les autres membres du forums.
  25. 11 points

    Interview Invites date?

    I called UBC MD Admissions about 30 minutes ago and was told that we will be getting an update email this week, but invitations will not come out this week. They are still figuring out when to release them. I hope this helps everyone with the wait! I know how stressful it can be.
  26. 11 points
    Up until dental school, a big motivation for doing well in school is just to get good grades. In dental school, you're studying to become a healthcare professional. Thus, you start realizing that learning is not just about doing well in school but you're also trying to learn how to best treat and help your patients. It's not so much about the grades anymore as it is about learning what is relevant and important to your future career. What you learn, a lot of it will be applicable down the road unlike in undergrad. Academically: Everyone is pretty bright in dental school and were top students in undergrad. It means many are amazing memorizers, test-takers, and are very detail-oriented. You may end up being average and this requires some getting used to. Just do your best, pass your courses, and try not to compare yourself too much to others. Also, people may be book smart but their hand skills may not be the best. Some people are good at both. Understand that hand skills and clinical judgement are key as a budding dentist. Even if you have memorized all the requirements for an ideal prep, if you can't use indirect vision and drill this prep to the ideal specifications, then it leaves a bit to be desired. Another thing is that you will have less time to study more content. Often I went into exams not fully confident/ready - just do your best. Socially: Amazing. You will have a wonderful group of classmates of which many will be your friends for life. Always so much going on and it's so easy to get to know upper years. Upper years are so helpful and will help find you extra teeth, good patients to assist, shadowing opportunities, etc. Faculty: Super approachable and they treat you as equals/colleagues. Learn as much as you can from them. Professionally: From dental conferences to companies wining-and-dining you (insurance and financial advisors, etc.), you will have a lot of opportunities to learn about life after graduation. This means a lot of free food, dressing up fancy, and networking. Maybe it won't be today, tomorrow, or next week but as long as I work hard every day, I will eventually be a good, competent dentist. I am very lucky to study a field I enjoy and attend a school in one of the most awesome cities in the world and I wouldn't trade it for anything else. I have made so many new friends but I also cherish time with non-dental friends, family, and myself. I make sure to work hard but also play hard.
  27. 11 points

    Countdown to decisions [doomsday]

    Ladies and gentlemen, within 24 hours we will all know our fate: acceptance, rejection, or purgatory. Thanks to everyone that joined in for my memes and antics. I apologize if I induced anxiety for anyone over the last 3 weeks. I wish everyone the best of luck. Try to get some good sleep tonight (I know I won't). Please remember, even if you receive a rejection, you've made it to the interview which is a huge accomplishment in and of itself. Don't give up (I know I won't)! And lets all post our stats tomorrow for the future applicants to see.
  28. 11 points
  29. 10 points

    Accepted 2019

    Just a little thought that I felt compelled to share. For those of you that are fortunate enough to live in an area with Daylight Savings Time, just remember that decision letters are 1 hour closer than you may have thought.
  30. 10 points
    Title pretty much says it all. I'm a MS1 at Schulich, and last year I made a website with all my MCAT resources and all my interview resources too. I'm guessing if you're reading this you've already done the MCAT, but you might find my interview prep materials useful. You can find it all here - https://ultimatepremedpackage.wordpress.com/interviewing/ Please let me know if you have any questions! Of course, I can't tell you what questions they asked me, etc., but I can give general information about the day or whatever. I might see some of you for your interview day, but if not - good luck! You'll do great!
  31. 10 points

    Waitlist Support Thread - 2018

    I just called their office. I believe it was Diane who picked up. She said the class is not full and they still have a number of calls to make next week as Chantal is STILL away. She said Chantal should be back on Tuesday and that’s when we can expect the calls to be made.
  32. 10 points
    I tend to try to have a very critical and realistic approach towards my application. I feel confident about myself, very proud of what I presented and wouldn't change anything in my interview performance. On the other end, I feel that hoping for the best might create expectations. Therefore, as hard as it may be, I have convinced myself that I will be rejected. My current focus is based on that assumption and is targeted to improving myself for next year. No matter what parameters are measured, this process is somewhat 'random'. I firmly believe that a rejection is not correlated to an inability to be an excellent physician. That is as true for the pre-interview selection as it is for post-interview results. It is a multi-factorial process and only tiny differences separate us all. A rejection is just based on an impersonal ranking ; it doesn't represent you. There is no 'injustice' and I won't accept to 'feel sorry for myself'. Think about it : every year, someone is #1 on the waitlist and doesn't get in. I know it might not be the most optimistic way of looking at things but... If you trust your gut, follow what's in your heart and work hard, you'll be happy. And eventually, you will make it. This year or next year. Best of luck and may you all have positive results
  33. 9 points
  34. 9 points

    B on my Transcript

    Let us know what the beaches in the caribbean are like
  35. 9 points

    Admitted but never kissed a girl

    this is the most cringe story/advice I have ever heard. OP please ignore this
  36. 9 points
    Hello, Please excuse myself for this response but I have to make this. I am not an OT applicant but I've got to pick apart this message because this post is quite timely right when results are out and frankly are scaring other people about their acceptance for which they worked very hard to get today. First and foremost, I can't fathom the fact that you joined this forum 2 hours ago just to make this point of yours. I'm sure you must have came across this forum when you were applying yourself to OT schools. Anyhow that is extraneous to my following points. The job market in Toronto is saturated and frankly wherever you go, especially in a busy city, it is always going to be saturated. Please don't frighten new students just because the supposed market is saturated. I am currently in my final stretch to become a PA, and I've had many people told me about the job market prospects being saturated, but that doesn't mean I should not become what I wanted to become. Getting a job is tough, it's multifactorial- economy, your skills, personality, and how well you come across during an interview 2 years from now or whenever. I just want people who are accepted to day to UofT or wherever to know that don't be scared of what the market will be like 2 years from now. There will always be a job opening somewhere, although for some it may be close to home, for others they may have to make some sacrifices and move there, and that's something you have to be willing to do if the situation demands it. I currently go to a PA program in USA, am from originally in toronto. We practice many of our skills in lab with models and not on humans. We are practically thrown into the placement with only experience largely on models, and very little on humans, but yet we turn out fine. It does take time to adapt, but the programs that are accredited for OT, i'm sure follow a certain requirement of what is to be taught. I get that the expansion part of class size can be an issue, and whether you may be open about it or not, it feels to me like you got placed at UTM whenever you were accepted and you don't get to have the classroom interaction because you are primarily watching live-streamed lectures. I quote "The format is live videos of lecturers from St George campus with occasional classes taking place at UTM. Class discussion are made much more difficult and honestly with this many people (and the technological barriers), it is not a very conducive learning environment.", and i feel this is one of your hurting points about this program and I agree with you, if you are in a master's program, and you have to watch recorded / live stream lectures, it sucks. There is no standard classroom interaction that those at St. George can get. But that isn't a reason to tell someone not to go to their school of choice, esp if it was UofT or whichever. The onus then becomes on you to be able to adapt to situation and variables outside your control - like where you got placed, and ask the questions you need outside of class. It's not ideal but its as best you can do, i mean i'm sure you must be doing that, and I have no doubt that there must be some sort of option available to ask faculty members at UofT. The matter of focus on theory and research, what each program focuses on will vary i guess from school to school and that is something that isn't in your control and there will be no perfect program that focuses on skills and less on theory and research. Being of UofT undergraduate student at one point in time, I can say there is more emphasis on research and theory but that's UofT in general by nature. But it's still not a reason for those individuals today who worked hard to get 100 or however many spots out of 1000+ applications to give up on their choice. The whole issue about health / mental reasons and taking leave is important and something that all programs around the world especially the professional level need to work on. The programs are so tight packed and paced that there isn't much room for a break for the students in the program. I myself went through 2 cases where I had pneumonia and both times I was told, "being sick isn't an excuse to not write the exam", and the program i'm in, we move module wise, so everyone's got to pass before the next module starts. It sucks, and they need to be better on these aspects, its ridiculous! For that, I am absolutely with you, they need to be more understanding about some accommodation for whatever issues we are facing. As for the placements, honestly, it sucks that they ship you out to Brampton or Markham, but honestly it's not that far away from Toronto. Unfortunately, insurance prices are sky high in Toronto, and having a car is a huge financial burden, so I cannot speak for everyone, but having a car is practically needed especially for programs like this and practically anywhere you go in USA. I drive 65 miles to my placement, and it absolutely sucks, but I don't view that as an obstacle to not going into the program I'm in, nor would I hesitate to choose the school I go to, despite all its flaws. I applaud you for speaking up and raising awareness about the flaws of the program at UofT, and frankly I don't even know if you're in the program, and it's hard for me to ignore that you made an account 2 hours ago just to make this post. As a critical mind, I hypothesize, what if you are on the waitlist for this program? After all, we are all just anonymous usernames on a thread. The same could be said about me, but I have no bias towards deterring those who got in today from choosing the program and school they wanted to go to before today. Conflict of interest would be that I have very close friends who read your post and now all of a sudden, the program they were so excited and hoping to get an acceptance from this whole cycle, are now suddenly doubting because of one post on a forum. To those who read this and are potentially waitlisted, accepted or rejected (and are planning to apply to this school in focus), don't let one person's experience or view change what you wanted to do or go. I can honestly write a lot about the program I go to, but you have to understand there will be flaws and pros at every school. For some, such factors mentioned above are so pivotal it changes their opinion about where they want to go or what they want to do, but for others like me, I adapt with what I can, accept the non-perfect situation and make best of what I can with it. At the end of the 2 years, you still have a career despite what the job market may be, and have at least enough training to do the job you need to do, you may not get extensive training but that's where the learning takes place, once you are out there on your first job. Congratulations to all those who are accepted and don't lose hope for those who are waitlisted or have been rejected, I myself had to try three times before getting into the program and school I wanted.
  37. 9 points

    Prévision et admission Medecine 2019

    GOT IN !!! ULAVAL! CRU :33.077 MEM 616
  38. 9 points

    May 14 Countdown

  39. 9 points

    May 14 Countdown

    Best of luck tomorrow everybody and thank you for the company you definitely helped me stay a little more sane and a lot less alone. I hope you all hear some good news tomorrow and whatever happens, you've all done an amazing job working hard over the years, putting your best application forward and waiting through this crazy process.
  40. 9 points
    With a 325 M line of credit, I think this will really augment the self-care aspect of medical school. We can all agree that every student needs their own private jet and yacht to succeed #self-care. Right now, I just could not picture taking anything less than 400 million for my line of credit, but with the 500$ Amazon card, I am tempted to settle for a lowly 325 million LOC. I guess the penthouse I wanted will just need to wait.
  41. 9 points

    My MCAT Guide

    Hello fellow wannabe doctors, I am currently a TA at SFU and I made the following MCAT guide for my students since I had quite a few of them asking me how I succeeded on the MCAT. I figured I might as well share the love! https://docs.google.com/document/d/1OVjOBp8jB2mDGp7x27uZTeMpp4qdA0ugYTvbatvNL8c/edit?usp=sharing
  42. 9 points

    Accepted 2019

    I’m heading to the Tupper in an hour, if I have the courage to go to admissions, I’ll ask and update everyone!
  43. 9 points
    Good luck all, you can do this!
  44. 9 points

    Convocations entrevues MD 2018

    Si tu as passé tes entrevues à mtl, tu te souviendras qu'ils nous ont dit que leur système devait être "réinitialisé" avant d'envoyer les offres. On dirait qu'ils parle d'un système de lancement de fusée de la NASA dans les années 60...
  45. 9 points

    Words of support and encouragement

    It's that time of the year again where we can hear the echos of tearful joy or sorrow spread across the country as MD admission decisions get released. It's also common for those who's facing the pangs of disappointment from a rejection to ask why... why was I not good enough? why did I fail? It's hard to see it right now, but a rejection is not a reflection of your worth as a human nor a measure of your integrity as a person. The admissions process just another set of criteria that can be overcome with time. Having been rejected once before narrowly achieving my acceptance (my story is buried somewhere in the non-trad success forums) I can definitely relate to the pangs of guilt, disappointment, and frustration from a rejection letter. However, it gave me the opportunity for great introspection and self-improvement. Now having succeeded in getting into medical school, I can confidently say I am a better person and will be a better doctor now than if I had gotten in right away. In general, it's not a question of why... simply a matter of when. If anyone would like to talk I'm more than happy to provide what support I can. Otherwise hang in there and know that there's support for you somewhere out there. As always ... best wishes to everyone, - G
  46. 9 points

    Challenges of Family Medicine

    Well, that entirely depends upon your practice. A good chunk of my patients I would consider to be not healthy. Obesity and obesity-related conditions plague the general population. I can agree with you though that most of my patients are of minimal acuity, i.e., they are not on the verge of serious complications and death at that instant in time, but I still see 10-20 patients a week I would consider high acuity, and many patients who are just a Big Mac away from an MI. Physical procedures I am not entirely sure what you mean, but I still do a lot of procedures such as intra-articular injections, suturing, biopsies, wedge resections, and cautery. You have to recognise murmurs and pathological lung sounds, sure, but you don't necessarily need to know what specific disease entity correlates with a particular abnormal finding. If you can recognise that something is abnormal, then read up on what it could be or talk to a colleague. You have lots of tools, such as imaging, lab tests, or specialists to narrow down the specific diagnosis, but by the time you are done residency you should know when a finding is bad and warrants further investigation and when a finding is innocuous or inconsequential. You could refer them to a specialist, but like I said above you also have other things at your disposal such as imaging or other tests. An abnormal heart sound could always be checked with an echo or an ECG. A skin lesion can always be sent for a biopsy. These are things that you can do as a family physician and residency programs should be training you to be relatively autonomous within the scope of family medicine. It is important to recognise the limits of your knowledge and there's no shame in that, but I would say I am comfortable handling 95% of what comes through my office without needing to refer to a specialist. This can be challenging and not always obvious, that's true. I had an elderly patient once who came in with vague bilateral calf pain after hiking a few days prior, thought it was muscle strain, but ordered a d-dimer anyway because he had a prior history of clots. His Well's score was low. A few hours later he ended up in the ER with a PE. Seems like he did have a clot in one of his legs whereas the other leg was just a muscle strain. Sometimes you just can't know what is truly high acuity, but residency programs in family medicine do train you to recognise obvious high emergency situations. I still look things up a lot. I can't possibly know what to treat with for a guy who drank a bunch of dirty water in Nicaragua and ended up with a Blastocystis hominis infection. I mean, I know now, but for the most part my patients have appreciated after I told them I need to research more about their condition, or more about how to properly manage their kid's catch-up schedule for vaccines, than trying to fake knowledge you don't have, which is both dangerous and unethical.
  47. 9 points
    Man, I hate to revive an old forum post from 2016, but I just started medical school at McMaster this year, and I've definitely noticed this. I've noticed it so much that it really, really bugged me, I went and did some research on why the hell my class is like this, and found this thread. I come from a middle class family. Our income was slightly above the national median, but we actually have real trouble making ends meet. During the financial aid talk this week, the professor asked how many of us had NO DEBT going into medical school, and 3/4 of the class put up their hands. I went to school in downtown Toronto, and I'd say more than 1/2 of students from my high school had to borrow from OSAP to pay for their undergraduate degree. I personally have 12k in OSAP debt from undergrad. I talked about this to my group of friends back home (some of whom want to be doctors) and all of us had OSAP debt. I told them about how my class was made up of rich kids - imagine how discouraging that must have been for them. And then I got to know more of my class. Many of them had parents who were doctors, professors, etc. It was disproportionate, and they talk about it really casually, "my dad does family medicine at blah blah". I don't think I went to a shady high school or something, but aren't these sort of family backgrounds supposed to be somewhat rare? Among my entire circle of high school friends, not one of them came from such a good background as having a family doctor as a parent - NOT ONE. I've had no doctor mentors to take me through this process. I hate to feel this way, but I'm beginning to feel like the whole medicine enterprise is about a bunch of rich people from really privileged backgrounds who make a ton of money taking care of the poor (it's hard to deny that medicine pays really well) - and it makes me feel really dirty. Dirty in the sense that medicine is supposed to be a public service, not a system to perpetuate privilege. Shouldn't poor kids have a better shot at moving up socioeconomically? More importantly, on the public service side, doesn't it benefit medicine to recruit students from middle class backgrounds - people who understand what it's like to work stressful factory jobs while taking care of 3 kids, people who are obese, smokers, diabetic, and have high blood pressure (all 4 of which, I'm pretty sure, are far more prevalent in people of lower SES). My family isn't that poor, but I have an understanding of what many of these things are like - my mom has three of the above conditions (obesity, diabetic, high BP), and I'm pretty certain if we had more money, she'd be in better health. I actually really understand this, because I can see the stress she's under. I have a first hand appreciation of the social determinants of health, and I think it's a bit of a shame that not many medical students do. I mean, they learn it in class an all, and they answer all the questions correctly at the interview, but every time you tell med students about the sorts of conditions the AVERAGE canadian family (like mine) live in, they're absolutely shocked and appalled, because they've lived in nothing other than a big fancy house, with 4 course nutritious meals at dinner, living at a boarding school. All of the things I've described above will affect the development of the kids in that family, believe it or not. The SES bias is NOT a product of tuition being too expensive - realistically i've never heard of anyone not being able to "afford" medical school in Canada, if they have an acceptance in hand - they'll manage. Yes, there's very little excuse for someone to say "I did poorly on that math test because I came from poor parents". But medical school is more than just a single math test. IT's a LOT of work to get into. To do so, you need to reach your full potential. You need not only to do very well in school, but you have to be highly accomplished. People can only do these things if their basic needs are well met. I've seen my mom cry about not being able to pay off the mortgage - imagine how that makes me feel? It makes me hurt inside every time I spend my parents' money to buy food for myself. It means I have to work every summer to be able to live away from home, because I don't want to ask my parents to pay my rent. How can I focus fully on ECs when all this is going on? I mean, I made it into medical school, but imagine how much further I could have gone if I didn't have to worry about these things. People can only reach their full potential when all their needs are met. I want to emphasize that my family income is slightly ABOVE median. The majority of Canadian students are in family backgrounds that prevent them from reaching their full potential. I remember sitting on a GO Bus listening to a student behind me talking to her friend about her med school ambitions, about all the shit that goes on at home, about her sister attempting suicide because of school-related stress - she's not that far from the average family. Imagine how hard it must be for her. I wouldn't have made it if that was my family. These sorts of problems are common in Canadian families, believe it or not, but REALLY rare in families with >100k income (do your parents make more than 100k?) - I hope none of you are surprised to hear that, because rich families have a lot more control over their lives. That sister of hers would have just moved on to business or something without a care in the world. Some of the posts in this thread made me a little upset. It's easy to deny that family income has ANYTHING to do with medical school admissions success when you've been in a privileged household your whole life. This is my experience, and it doesn't surprise me at all now how skewed med school classes are. It's not the tuition, anyone who can get into medical school can afford it - I've never heard of any Canadian medical student being unable to attend, or even hesitant to attend, just because the tuition is expensive (quite frankly, engineering programs can cost $16k a year, medicine is a bargain). The cost of writing the MCATs and submitted applications is a factor, but not the leading factor. I'm pretty sure it's just the fact that kids from privileged backgrounds are more likely to do better in school, not because they're smarter, but because their needs are well met, allowing them to truly reach their full potential. You need to have your needs met before you can get a 4.0, before you can spent hours working on your med school/nserc/scholarship applications, before you can work at an inner city HIV clinic, or whatever the hell else premeds do. Being smart may partly be a genetically inherited factor, but I'm certain it doesn't explain a substantial part of the bias - I know plenty of smart poor kids who are definitely smart enough to be in my class. Also, why is there only one (I think) black guy in my class? That's why I kind of like Mac. I'm not the dean or anything, but I think at least part of the reason they don't look at ECs is because ECs favors privileged kids (I hope Queens' dean sees this). I'd still say Mac has a way to go. By the way, how many of you come from households with income above $100k? If so, you need to realize that you're somewhat privileged. You may not notice because all the kids in your school are likewise rich, another aspect of your privilege. YOU need to see what school is like in downtown Toronto. My high school produces about one med student per year. I hear many of the suburbian high school product 10s of med students per year. Are downtown kids just dumb? I think this article is worth a read:http://www.universityaffairs.ca/features/feature-article/medical-school-admissions-process-skewed/
  48. 9 points


    curing cancer
  49. 9 points

    2017 Queen's Waitlist Poll

    I just wanted to leave the waitlistees who haven't been accepted anywhere with some words of encouragement. I know exactly how it feels to be in your position. I never got off of Queen's waitlist last cycle. All of you that had the opportunity to interview should be very proud of yourselves. It truly is an accomplishment to reach this stage considering the incredible competition. My advice is to take a few days to grieve. After that get working on your apps for the next cycle. Analyze your application and see where you can improve (interview skills, ECs, etc.) and give it another shot. Despite being in 3 cycles I have yet to matriculate and am still determined to do so. Let me serve as an example of the tenacity that this process demands. Hopefully the upcoming cycle will be the one. Good luck to all.
  50. 8 points
    Yeah....and while you have them on the phone maybe ask if they are sending out invites today?
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