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  1. 34 points
    La 3e vague est sortie! and guess what? I'M INNNNNNNNNNNNN Merci guys!!!!! I couldn't have done it without y'all <3333 I'm over the moon right now, jpx pas me calmer fuckkkkk
  2. 29 points
    Result: Accepted (VFMP) off the Wait-list 6/8/2020 Geography: IP Early or Regular Deadline: Regular Timestamp: 3:45 PM PST aGPA: 85.1% ~22.5 AQMCAT (CPBS / CARS / BBFL / PSBB): 513 (128/126/129/130)Current Degree (UG/Bachelors/Masters/PhD): SFU Molecular Biology and Biochemistry 2015 ECs: ~34 NAQ last year. Various things: Volunteered at shelters, Big Brother, some clinical volunteering, NSERC (no pubs), helped the elderly, charities etc etc etc. My application included a lot of my hobbies as I tried to paint a picture of who I really am: I like wrenching on cars so I restored an old Japanese car. I really enjoy photography, and drawing. I also repaired computers and phones on the side. I provided evidence for all my hobbies with links (an album for example). I've had quite a few jobs as well from selling cars to manual labor. For example when the town of Fort Mcmurray burned down I lived in a camp near there for 2 months to help with the clean up. Interview: 7 stations went okay, bombed 2 stations (I might as well have gone in there and screeched for 7 minutes). My essay wasn't great. I can't believe I am posting this. After 4 applications of straight rejections and 4 MCATs, I finally got wait listed and accepted in the 5th application and 3rd interview. This has been...quite a long and difficult journey. You can look back on my 8 year old account and see all the times when I lost hope completely or when I was researching schools in Poland/Australia/D.O. Schools. No way in hell I expected this. I had completely given up. Last year I quit my job and practiced 250-400 hours for the interview and got below average and rejected. I had practiced with residents, med students, other applicants, professors, teachers, my parents, friends, I gave it my everything so to be rejected like that was a clear message that I am not cut out to be a doctor. I moved on completely. I decided to do a second degree in Computer Science, nothing even health care related. The past 10 years of my life were considered forfeit. I talked to an advisor at SFU about CS requirements and he told me I have everything I need for Jan 2020 intake. Two weeks later as I am applying, they changed their requirements to needing more math courses, I was no longer qualified and UBC's BCS (CS) program wasn't until next September. I was in complete despair at this point. I felt like anything I tried to do with my life, there was a massive obstacle. Like there was some divine force preventing me from progressing while everyone else moved on. It was really hard to not have these negative thoughts. It was the uncertainty around getting into CS for January at SFU that led me to decide to apply to UBC Med one more time, I wasn't planning on it. After UBC MD application was sent in, the CS department decided to ignore their own requirements and admitted me. Finally, I could move on. December comes around and I was surprised to get the interview and grateful, but really did not have the energy or time during my studies to practice like that again. I practiced 2 weeks before the interview and went in. Bombed two stations utterly and completely, and the rest were okay. Nothing as good as my last year's interview. I walked out out LSC thinking to myself this is the last time i'll walk here. A chapter in my life had ended. I just wanted to go home, I had midterms. I didn't even eat the pizza. I didn't think about medical school or the interview again and focused on my studies. In May I get an email that I got waitlisted. I was really surprised but not that excited, given results of the last 4 years, I probably wasn't very high on the list anyways. I was too jaded to be excited. Yesterday was like something out of a dream. I was writing out a strongly worded email to UPS for damaging my car's coilovers when my gmail widget popped up "UBC Undergrad Admis..". I thought it's probably a COVID 19 message or they started rejecting people earlier because the waitlist isn't moving. I opened the email and it said "Congratulations". I stared blankly at the email for 20-30 seconds. I won't go into detail what happened afterwards, you can just imagine what happened. As I trembled for the next hour, I thought to myself...they made a mistake. There's no way. How? The interview was awful. How did this happen. There's got to be a mistake. It honestly still hasn't sunk in yet. I am not going to write that perseverance pays off. This could've easily gone the other way and I know many for whom it did not pay off. Despite all the years of applying and taking rejection after rejection and seriously starting to think there's something wrong with me, I still think I got very lucky. There are risks to pursuing this path. I always thought not having backup would make me more motivated for volunteering and doing well in school and that might have been true, but I think the only thing that changed this year was my attitude towards the whole thing ( I didn't do anything new compared to the previous year's application, just a few more hours in what I already had). I didn't have desperation in my eyes anymore, the interview was taking up my time that could've been used for my midterms. The prospects and promises of the CS degree seemed a lot more realistic vs going up against a hyper competitive application pool. I had other plans, I was pursuing something else at the same time. Something else I enjoyed, but it wasn't necessarily my dream. The outcome of this interview was no longer a zero sum game. It wasn't really as important as last year when there was so much to lose. It had become something I had to do. And perhaps that attitude is something they like. Perhaps it comes off as being more confident. If future applicants have questions about my ECs feel free to PM me! I look forward to meeting my classmates soon! (well with covid...maybe soon?)
  3. 28 points
    littleduck

    2020 Waitlist Thread

    Hey guys!!!!! I am literally going crazy right now!!!!! I barely can breath I just got the email from chantal that I got off the waitlist!!!!!!!! I HOPE YOU GUYS HEAR BACK ASAP
  4. 25 points
    grepefruit12

    2020 Waitlist Thread

    Got off the waitlist 2:06pm getting groceries right now almost dropped my egg whites!!
  5. 24 points
    WuhanClan

    2020 Waitlist Thread

    I calmed down a bit before making this post but I got the email from Chantal at 2:06 as well!! Was not expecting this!!! See everyone online in the fall and best of luck to anyone still on the waiting list! If anyone has any questions feel free PM me Four cycles and I finally got in, unreal guys lol. Do not lose hope!
  6. 23 points
    MedicineLCS

    2020 Waitlist Thread

    I"M IN!!! Same time stamps as everyone else. Time to make someone else happy by dropping my backup (as soon as everything goes through)!
  7. 17 points
    SALUUUT!! J’etais 27 eme sur la LA bac connexe!! J’ai reçu mon dépôt hier et ma lettre aujourd’hui!! C’était ma 5EME ANNÉE UNIVERSITAIRE!! Je suis passé par 3 années de Biologie , 1 année en Bio Med et 1 session en Nutrition! Ma Cru doit tourner autour de 35 et mon Casper était moyen ! Si vous avez des questions concernant les cours de ces programmes n’hésitez pas à m’envoyer un message, je vais vous répondre comme plusieurs m’ont répondu auparavant !! Ça peut sembler cheesy ce que je vais vous dire mais CROYEZ EN VOUS, DONNEZ VOTRE MAXIMUM, ENTOUREZ VOUS DE PERSONNES AUTHENTIQUES QUI VOUS SOUTIENDRONT DANS LES MOMENTS DURS (c’est hyper important, surtout lorsque vous doutez de vos capacités à réussir) ET ACCROCHEZ VOUS COMME JAMAIS !! BONNE CHANCE ET BON COURAGE!!! Ps: J’ai reçu une offre pour le Campus Montréal !!
  8. 17 points
    ejvrei

    McMaster Waitlist Party 2020

    I just got an offer for the Hamilton campus!!! Timestamp: 14:45 Edit: I just want to say that I wish all of you the absolute best of luck! We were definitely dealt a tough hand this year, but there is still so much positivity on this forum and I believe so much in you all! (I was a little too in shock to write anything more than what I had written before at the time, sorry)
  9. 17 points
    rmorelan

    weird feeling

    I am just going to say this outright- ha just stop doing that right now. Stop messing with the moment. it is well bluntly stupid. Just to start - I started relatively late as well, so I can say no there won't be any real problem. There are people a lot older than that starting ha. They also tend to do very well in medical school (objectively and yeah we have tracked that). This process contains an element of luck regardless of scores - one of the best docs I know took 5 attempts to get in. That just happens. Anyone that ignores that point is really not seeing the full picture here. In no time at all no one, absolutely no one except maybe yourself until you shut it down, will care at all about any of this. Absolutely no one. 3 year difference? Ha, that's nothing. oh, and congrats. Now stop immediately second guessing yourself and go actually celebrate your long earned accomplishment.
  10. 16 points
    boohwal

    2020 Waitlist Thread

    I got the email as well!! Finally got into med school after 3 years of rejection lol. Looks like the WL movement has finally reached 7:41 so don't lose hope guys!
  11. 16 points
    BingBop

    2020 Waitlist Thread

    I JUST GOT THE EMAIL, 12:00 FROM CHANTAL. SEE YOU IN THE FALL!!!!!!!!!!!!
  12. 15 points
    Well boys and girls, probs gonna call it quits after tomorrow. I've been lurking on this forum for 2 weeks now and y'all seem like real nice, genuine people and I hope all of you will get accepted into med school next year if not this year. Been feeling like garbage after seeing a bunch of my friends get accepted to all different med schools while I could barely scrape by with interviews but at least we're guaranteed an interview next year. And hey, everybody goes through life at their own pace. It still may be premature for me to lose hope so quickly but I think a lot of people may be feeling what I've been feeling, I get particularly neurotic and stressed with these kind of things and at some point I have to come to terms with maybe this year ain't it. But no matter what happens, try to stay cheerful y'all, although that's easier said than done especially with the recent events going on the world but that's life I suppose. Cheers y'all, stay frosty.
  13. 15 points
    FocacciaBread

    weird feeling

    No you're not too old. I'm 29 years old and I just got accepted Embrace it! It took me a long time as well. I start at age 25 where I went back to school to slowly get all my science prerequisites while working full-time. During that time, I had friends graduating medical school while I was taking a first year biology course that they took when they were 17-18 years old. I had some friends that started to apply at 25 yo (so I was still "behind" since I wasn't applying yet) but were unsuccessful, so they opted to go to Ireland instead but I unfortunately couldn't ever afford anything like that . I was waitlisted at Ottawa just a few weeks ago feeling so low because I started to see those same friends that went to Ireland graduate and come back to Canada. So I couldn't be more grateful that Ottawa took a chance on me by giving me an offer from the waitlist. I don't care if I am 40 years old entering medical school because I'm going to be doing something that I've always been so passionate about. Something I daydreamed about for soooooo long. You should be so proud But I understand how you're feeling. Just try to mute it and think about the fact that you worked so hard to get where you are today and you will thank yourself for the next 60 something years as a practicing doctor!
  14. 14 points
    All these posts speaking against BSAP and other forms of "affirmative action" and we have yet to see a single factual piece of statistics to prove that favoring black applicants or other applicants from marginalized backgrounds actually resulted in ANY lower outcome in licensing exams or healthcare outcome. We have no actual knowledge into how applicants to BSAP are assessed aside from the fact that they will be paired with interviewers of their own race to prevent implicit bias. You're making ASSUMPTIONS that these applicants got in with lower average wGPA. But there is no statistics for that. And what more, systemic racism is chronic and draining and stressful on individuals. Even if concession does IN FACT exist on wGPA, how is BSAP any different from allowing students to write an AEE to explain extenuating circumstances in their academic history? It's simply formalizing the explanation of marginalized background for these students. Lastly, the students coming into med school are NOT the same as the physicians coming out of it. If people can go into med schools with non-science backgrounds and no prerequisites and become fine doctors by the end of it, I don't see why a 0.1 difference in WGPA would affect the outcome anymore significantly. Unlike the offensive bias against black students and graduates spouted on here, there have been ACTUAL studies out there to show that having a holistic approach to admissions and increasing diversity does not compromise and can even improve success of graduates.
  15. 13 points
    kingassault

    Queens Waitlist Party 2020

    I got in, after 5 application cycles. For everyone else waiting, don't give up!!!
  16. 13 points
    Hey there I would say that a lot of what you said is partially true. It's true that managing chronic conditions might seem boring. However, that can be a very good sign. e.g. your diabetic and hypertensive patient has never been admitted to the hospital for a massive STEMI since his diabetes and hypertension are well managed ? Well that's certainly a good sign. Plus you managed to help them quit smoking? even better! The bread and butter of most fields is repetitive. The nephrologist who follows CKD, well there aren't any magical therapy in that regard. The cardiologist who follows the vasovagal syncope patient who has 20 syncopes per week? Not sure they have magical treatments in that regard neither. The ophthalmologist doing the 20th cataract surgery the same day? Not sure what they like about that. Family medicine isn't the only place where you will see patients who won't be grateful, or non compliant patients. Emerg physicians get unpleasant, verbally abusive patients all the time. As a hospitalist, you might be admitting the same patient the 5th time this year for DKA because they refuse to take their insulin as prescribed. As a psychiatrist, you might get the psychotic patient who stopped taking their medications, and now readmitted for psychosis once more. As a vascular surgeon, you might see the critical limb ischaemia patient who kept smoking, and now you have no choice but to perform a limb amputation. As a respirologist, you might get the 120 pack-year end stage COPD patient who still smokes 2 packs a day. As a transplant surgeon, you might get a liver transplant patient who restarted drinking, and now cirrhotic again. Trust me, non compliance is not just in family medicine. Now consider the following: FM = true generalist. You know a bit of everything. The internists will manage complex medical conditions much better than you, but you know how to repair a laceration much better than the internist. The orthopod will know MSK much better than you, but you know how to manage medical conditions better than the orthopod etc... Flexibility and mobility: It's not something you can get with most specialties. You can do palliative care, rural medicine, hospital medicine, emerg, etc... Long-term relations with patients: as the main physician following your patients for 20 years, you will get to know them, and most patients will appreciate you for your job. Contrast this with the orthopedic surgeon who in 1 day saw 50 patients in their fracture clinics. Variety: something you won't get with most other specialties When it comes to your job satisfaction, it really depends on how you perceive things. Some derive it from the work-life balance they get from FM, others from the impact they have on patients, some from the bonds they form with their patients etc... Anyways, it's getting late. I'm out. Don't rule out family medicine just yet. It has a lot to offer! Feel free to PM me if you have questions!
  17. 13 points
    Hey everyone, got a call @1:59 today... off from NWL at Windsor. Honestly been a longgggggggggggg process and it’s finally done! Hopefully someone else gets off NWL too.
  18. 12 points
    WuhanClan

    2020 Waitlist Thread

    I just wanted to drop a comment because of the support I received from this group of applicants and I see some getting demoralized. I know today must have been hard but it does not define you, the same way May 12 did not define you. Persistence is a HUGE factor in who becomes a physician so do not give up! It took me longer than average (4 cycles, but 2nd time applying at uOttawa and first time interviewing). Whenever I was hit with Rs I found action helped me move on whereas inaction forced me to dwell. Wherever possible, be proactive in improving your application for next year, hopefully you will get interviews at more schools and give yourself an even better chance and potentially have the coveted position of choosing between multiple offers. E.g. UofT essays will be coming out in July, get a head start on them, do a 5th year if your GPA is low, kill the MCAT if it's holding you back somewhere. When you get your interview invite next year you'll know exactly what to improve on from this cycle but get feedback from med students or other applicants with strong interview skills as much as possible. For those of you that reach out to me, I will try to help. Tl;dr please do not give up, it may take you another year or two but you may be much more successful then and right now work on improving your app; the grind never stops in this field.
  19. 12 points
    offmychestplease

    worried about fitting in

    I am starting medical school this fall. As happy as I am to start, I don't know how many others are like "me" and I am nervous. I am a POC, Muslim, immigrated from a war torn country when I was 7, grew up below the poverty line in Canada. My family has never gone on a "vacation" in my life. I had to work since I was 12 years old, and I don't have any doctors in my family. To put things into perspective, a birthday gift that I received when I was 10 was a McDonald's happy meal. I didn't have any guidance to get into med, don't have doctor parents/connections, went to public schools my entire life, grew up in a small apartment, etc
  20. 12 points
    Cardi(ology) B

    2020 Waitlist Thread

    YES Chantal emailed offering me an acceptance at 12:01 pm yesterday (June 2nd)!!!! No words for how elated and excited I am! On another note HUGE shout out to @newmy88 and everyone else who compiled the data and made the hypothetical waitlists, they have really helped in reducing the uncertainty and the anxiety surrounding this rollercoaster of a process <3 Best of luck to everyone still waiting!!!
  21. 12 points
    A bit off topic, but this forum post (the 2020 version) has over double the pages of the 2019 one.
  22. 12 points
    mp44518

    2020 Waitlist Thread

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  23. 11 points
    Hi All, I was clearing out my old bookmarks from years past, and recall lurking these forums back in the mid 2000's prior to starting dental school and then a bit during school. It is quite a blast from the past reading these forums and seeing many familiar questions and concerns. I thought it'd be a nice opportunity to give some feed back and answer any questions. I see many concerns regarding the past, present, and future of dentistry and am happy to help answer to the best of my ability. Some context: - Grew up in Ontario and did my undergrad in Ontario - Graduated from UWO dental and have been practicing for about 10 years - first half as an associate and the second half of that as an owner/operator in a smaller centre - Practice is just me and 2 hygienists, but with nearly 3000 patients we are looking at a potential associate as the practice is growing steadily - I have experienced the scares of independent hygiene in the mid 2000's, foreign credential concerns of the early 2010's, to the increasing corporitization that is the current reality - Have been involved at the governance level on the ODA council shortly after graduation, so I can give some small insight on what is going on behind the scenes (not confidential, just people but not be aware the massive lobbying effort that is occurring and who the responsible actors are - for example the equivalency process is not a CDA, ODA, or even RCDSO issue per se, but is a fairness initiative coming from the federal government that touches on human rights issues) A couple caveats: - It has been a while since I applied to dental school - so my advice there may not be relevant. I applied when UWO still accepted me with only 2 years of undergrad! I think you need a degree now so that shows how long it has been. - I do appreciate my privacy, so to be as open as possible with answers (especially if they pertain to finances), I will answer them freely, but may not be comfortable divulging too many personal details like my name, date of birth, last 3 digits of my credit card and so forth! - I also appreciate your privacy too, so if you have a question you'd prefer to PM me (do they still have that system?), then feel free to do so, but I'll ask for your consent to post the question and answer (sans name attached) so more people can learn. I found from my time at courses, if there is one person asking a question there are often 20 others thinking so it would be helpful to share as much as we can Anyways, I am by no means a definitive source of information, and I trust there are other experienced dentists that can help, but this forum was helpful for me in the past and I think it'd be great to pay that forward nearly 15 years later. Once in dental school, I also encourage people to look into Dentaltown forums. A wealth of information to be had there and I joined while still pursuing my DDS. I'll likely check in every couple days until interest dies down! Take care, Fellow Colleague
  24. 11 points
    MedGoldfish

    McMaster Waitlist Party 2020

    I haven't revisited any Mac-related forums since May 12, but I wanted to come back to see how much the waitlist moved. Like many of you, I was really frustrated when learning about Mac's lottery selection, but I still think that their medical program is great and will produce terrific doctors. I was fortunate enough to receive an offer to the medical school in my home province, so I won't be at Mac, but I wanted to share what I think about the current state of waitlist movement. Like some other users above, I also think that the Mac waitlist did not move as much this year. I can't confirm anything, but based on the 2023 Mac Med Facebook group, about 50-60 people have joined since May 26 (a day before the first large wave of waitlist acceptances). While I know that the school stated that they can offer guaranteed interviews next year to unaccepted applicants since most people off the WL either get an offer to Mac or another school, I don't think this trend is true this year. First, only 70-76% of the top 100 get an offer of admission, so those are 30 applicants that are automatically accepted who would have done quite below average on the MMI (enough to offset a combination of high GPA + CARS). It is very possible that these same applicants may have gotten interviews at other schools because of their stats, but they would not have performed well at those interviews either. Thus, Mac is their only offer, and they automatically get a spot which they have to accept. Now for the rest of the Mac spots, I personally know a few people who honestly would not have performed well in the MMI but who received a spot from the lottery. That doesn't mean that they will be poor physicians, but I know that they are not strong at interviews. They received an offer from Mac immediately off the lottery or off the waitlist, and they were rejected from other schools they interviewed at (or they only had a Mac interview). Because of these two ways in which applicants who would have underperformed at the MMI have now received offers to Mac that they must accept, the waitlist movement was lower this year. I do think that the lottery selection process screwed over several people, and I really feel for all of you. You have the right to feel upset and frustrated from this process. Try to channel this frustration into motivation that pushes you to be the best you can be for next year's interview. Show Mac what they are missing out on. Again, I think Mac is a great school that produces terrific doctors, but I think the lottery selection was the wrong way to go.
  25. 11 points
    CptAro

    2020 Waitlist Thread

    Hey everyone, I’ve been lurking this thread for a very long time but wanted to update that I got an offer this afternoon! My initial email timestamp was at 7:41:24 with GPA ~3.91. With this being my only offer and interview it was a dream come true. Just wanted to say that while the waiting is tough, don’t ever give up on yourself. My backup plans weren’t coming to fruition so I felt quite lost for a little while during this wait, but I’m very thankful for this thread and all the positivity that has been shared here. You are all capable of getting that MD acceptance so hang tight and always believe in yourselves!
  26. 10 points
    offmychestplease

    Mortgage as a Resident Physician

    you havent even got into medical school yet tho..
  27. 10 points
    Hi all, I haven't had a chance to be as active or contribute to the community as much I'd like to be, but I figured I'd post an update/reflection on here. I feel like many of us non-trads go through similar challenges when applying to and/or completing medical school. I hope some of you are able to derive some inspiration through my process and avoid the mistakes I've made. Guilt: I feel like this is often a burden to us. Guilt for being behind. Guilt for not performing on tests/courses. Guilt for not preparing hard enough for interviews. That's not to say you shouldn't have a constructive analysis of previous mistakes, just don't feel guilty about your previous life circumstances. I think being able to make mistakes, learning from them, and improving is as admirable (if not more) than never making any mistakes at all. So embrace your past self, learn from their mistakes, and improve on them. Building on your imperfections is what’s made you so strong. For me, I had started feeling a lot of guilt after getting into medical school for not maintaining the intensity that I kept throughout the process of getting there. I started feeling guilt for taking time for myself and not dedicating it towards philanthropic pursuits. And I recently realized: if I don't take time for myself and learn how to be a happy/healthy individual, am I really in a great position to try to provide these tools to my patients/others? It doesn't matter what stage you're in (pre-med, medical student, doc), taking time for yourself to be happy/healthy is not something you should ever feel guilty about. I would argue that this might be one of the more important aspects of life: creating a sphere of healthiness/happiness around you by first making yourself happy and healthy. Participate in charity and philanthropy, but don't overextend yourself. Always remember, charity begins at home! Purposelessness: There's sometimes a tendency to be tunnel-visioned into working extremely hard to get into med. You don't think too much about what happens after, and just assume that things will be amazing after. Its important to realize that 1st/2nd year are primarily lecture-based. There is very limited patient interaction, so you don't the positive feedback of helping others during this time. As an example, I saw my older brother battle through addiction once he got to professional school - after all that hard work/sacrifice he put into the acceptance, he wasn't sure about what came next or what he wanted out of life. Happiness and contentment doesn't wait at the gates of medical school. Your acceptance might give you some security about your career, but it only addresses one facet of your life. I told myself that I would keep a balanced lifestyle and made sure to be a happy person (I may have overcompensated see below ) Complacency: When you get to medical school, you get exposed to the rigorous work schedules of the clerks (3rd/4th year medical students), residents, and staff physicians. I thought to myself "man, I better make the most of my pre-clerkship years before shit hits the fan." In fact, all the upper years tell you the same: "enjoy pre-clerkship while you can." This is true. Pre-clerkship is super fun with all the parties and your suddenly booming social life. Combine that with the fact that us non-trads have often sacrificed so much to get here - it can become very easy to tip the balance. Be on the lookout if you ever catch yourself steering towards this end. ESPECIALLY for you current pre-clerks (incoming 1st years or 2nd years) who will have online lectures. What works for me: actively attending/listening to lectures. The process of just being present is a huge step into keeping you engaged and maintaining your academic life. TL;DR: be kind to yourself throughout the process of getting into medical school – learn from your mistakes, don’t feel guilty about them. Try to learn what you want out of life so that medical school doesn't become your end goal and you are not left with a feeling of purposelessness once you're in. Once you get in, there will be a sense of complacency. Figure out a way to counter this - I always felt that going to lectures kept me engaged (medicine is inherently interesting to most of us, so this should take care of itself). And finally, prioritize your own healthiness/happiness as this will trickle down to your patients and those in your sphere of life. Don't ever feel guilty about not participating in a myriad of extracurricular if it comes at the expensive of your own healthiness/happiness.
  28. 10 points
    Symphonie

    Admissions MD Laval 2020

    Je sais pas de quelle forme ça prendra cet automne (covid...), mais habituellement à chaque début d'année, vers septembre, il y a une ''foire'' de comités au Vandry. Il y a vraiment beaucoup de comités disponibles pour les étudiants en med, donc il y en a pour tous les goûts pour vous impliquer. Il y a bien sûr les fameux « Groupe d'intérêt ». Par exemple, le GISC ; groupe d'intérêt en spécialités chirurgicales (donc ob/gyn, chir. cardiaque et les autres que vous avez nommés) Je vous le conseille si vous voulez avoir un petit aperçu de ces domaines. Il y a plusieurs activités pendant l'année, comme des conférences, des 5 à 7 et il y a aussi des soirées de pratiques de points de suture pour le GISC (très très populaire, les places se comblent vite). Bien sûr avec la covid ça va être un peu différent, mais si à l'hiver on retourne en présentiel, ça pourrait être intéressant. Toute façon, ya pas de presse. Vous pouvez aussi faire tout ça en 2e-3e année. Finalement, je vous conseillerais de pas avoir peur : allez demander à vos profs/moniteurs pour passer une journée à les observer dans leurs milieux de travail. En 1ère année, vos seuls stages sont à l'urgence (bien sûr avec la COVID, il n'y en aura possiblement pas). Donc, pas vraiment d'exposition à des spécialités. Mais encore une fois, si on revient à l'hiver, c'est tout à votre avantage d'approcher un prof spécialiste pour lui demander gentiment. Les moniteurs de sous-groupes, il y en a beaucoup qui sont spécialistes et souvent résidents, donc ils sont jeunes et bien enthousiastes à ce que des étudiants leur demandent. Y a rien de mal à avoir des spés qui piquent + votre intérêt dès la 1ère année, tant au moins que votre mindset est ouvert et pas sticked à une seule chose. C'est bien de pouvoir faire de l'observation et toucher un peu à plusieurs trucs. Y a d'autres moyens d'avoir des stages d'exploration, mais ils vont vous en reparler et je veux pas écrire un roman
  29. 10 points
    Hey everybody! Just got off the waitlist for Western PT!!! I'm literally jumping off the walls and will be accepting! I was also on the waitlist for Queens PT so this might bump up some people.
  30. 10 points
    DrHopes

    2020 Waitlist Thread

    so I send the email yesterday night and Diane just answered (they do answer so fast !)... She told me : « Il y a encore du mouvement sur la liste d’attente. Une fois que la classe sera complète, nous allons envoyer un courriel à tous les candidats sur la liste d’attente. Je vous souhaite bonne chance, Diane» In English : There is still some movement on the WL. When the class will be complete, we will send an email to everybody on the WL. I wish you good luck, Diane» It gives me a little hope ! and I hope you are right about the facebook group
  31. 10 points
    To be honest, it's not really clear to me that a person with a 3.9 will automatically be a better physician than someone with a 3.7 anyway. I get that that feels really unfair when you're the person with the 3.9 that you've worked your ass off to get, thinking about not being chosen over someone with a 3.7, and I also think there's some truth to the idea that a 3.9 and a 3.7 aren't that different. For one thing, GPA isn't exactly impervious to manipulation. I got into medical school with a 3.8 - I was a double major and my GPA in one of my majors was about 3.95 and in the other was about 3.7. I worked equally hard on both. Just by choosing a different degree to do, I could have finished my bachelor's degree with either a 3.7 or a 3.95 GPA - and I would still be the same equally smart person working equally hard. It seems to me that there are two aspects to it: 1) Black applicants (even those who are privileged in other ways, e.g. by way of gender or socioeconomic status) face systemic barriers to academic success such that actually, a lower GPA does not represent less intelligence or less suitability for a career in medicine but rather the impact of systemic marginalization and racism. Therefore from an equity versus equality standpoint, accepting a lower GPA makes sense and is not actually indicative of accepting someone less qualified. I hear what you're saying that different people experience different levels of marginalization due to other intersecting identities, and I still think that the role of systemic racism is important even in people who are privileged in other areas. Also, while I do need to educate myself more on this to be able to speak about it knowledgeably, I have read some arguments that the degree and type of marginalization faced by Black people differs from other POC, partly due to the legacy of slavery in North America, and therefore requires particular consideration, and that made sense to me. That said, of course working on appropriate inclusion of folks from other marginalized communities is also very important. 2) Increasing the number of Black physicians serves the Canadian public on a number of important levels, and Black physicians have unique contributions to make to the medical system that should also be considered in the admissions process, not only as some sort of "justification" for lower GPA but as an important qualification in and of itself. I would imagine that the essay and interview component of BSAP would serve to clarify this further. I think the murder of George Floyd in the US has made it very clear that systemic racism needs to be addressed with systemic solutions. As a white physician I absolutely want to educate myself and work on myself to be able to provide the best care possible to my Black patients, and at the same time I also think that having more Black physicians is extremely important on both macro and micro levels.
  32. 10 points
    waitwhxt

    2020 Waitlist Thread

    Feeling a big wave coming this week to make up for last... Keep the faith!
  33. 10 points
    JustSayian26

    Waitlist Party 2020

    I have a hard time believing this as well. Sadly, I feel that this is true. This year there seems to be very low waitlist movement (might just be due to people not posting on the forum). Its a hard pill to swallow, but I feel that at this point, only a couple of people (anywhere between 1-5) will get an offer. According to statistics, approximately 35-45 people reject their offers every year. No one knows if UBC over invites or not, so it is tough to speculate if 35-45 people get in off the waitlist every year. Looking at these numbers, I thought a lot of us on the waitlist would have a good chance of receiving an offer, but looking a the lack of posts on this form I may have been wrong. It will be really interesting to look at the class of 2024 statistics when they come out and see how different it is this year in comparison to others. I am curious how COVID-19 affected peoples decisions and the fate of the people on the waitlist. Overall, I feel super frustrated with the lack of information that us "waitlisters" are provided. It's as if UBC is dangling the succulent "fruit of acceptance" in front of us just to torture us. Yet, I like many other still hold on to the hope that UBC will be gracious enough to give it. Over the past 3 weeks, I have kept playing scenarios in my head that I will get an offer, saying to myself that I will get and offer, even dreaming that I got an offer. The constant "what if" feeling still persists, but I have kind of moved on and am looking towards the next cycle. It still stings a little when I think about it, especially since some of my friend got in and I would have loved to be in the same class as them. Hopefully I will be surprised in the next coming weeks, however I am not counting on it. Sorry if this was a long post, but I just wanted to share a bit about how I was feeling.
  34. 9 points
    Dr. Shqipe

    2020 Waitlist Thread

    Sending some wishful thinking for some English and French stream acceptances today! Hopefully Chantal hears my wishes xD
  35. 9 points
    DrOtter

    worried about fitting in

    reading this honestly warms my heart so much. I'm a new immigrant too from a developing country. My parents are from the healthcare background at home but here they're just blue-collar workers on minimum wages. We've been living modestly my entire life and I have found it slightly difficult in the past to mix with my more affluent peers in different programs I found myself in. I have been just a little anxious about how I would fit in in med school but if my past experiences have been any indication, you finally find your clique with people (not necessarily from the same background) who appreciate you for you are and share similar interests. I agree with previous posts about how we should all go in with an open mind and be willing to step out of our comfort zones a little bit e.g. going on hikes with classmates, going out for dinner, having study parties (very nerdy lol) etc. I also found that when I was in a high-stress program in undergrad, everyone just kinda huddled together over the common anxiety and I'm really hoping med would be even more of that. But yeah, you are definitely not alone and the journey you've gone through to get to this point speaks volumes of your adaptability and resilience. Most people I've met who are in med school are nice and approachable so I don't doubt we will be able to find our belonging there. Best wishes for your future and I'm so grateful to have colleagues like you!
  36. 9 points
    newmy88

    2020 Waitlist Thread

    OH MY GOD CONGRATS EVERYONE!!!! THIS IS THE KINDA MOVEMENT I'M TALKING BOUT Y'ALL. So happy to see more people get in. Praying that there's more to come though! Even if it trickles... let it trickle! Hope is not lost until that class is full e-mail goes out. An optimistic thought to everyone waiting - maybe so many people declined their original offer that they felt comfortable enough moving the waitlist early because there were so many spots. We'll see! I've updated the spreadsheet for everyone
  37. 9 points
    DrOtter

    2020 Waitlist Thread

    Congrats to everyone! The support I see in our thread here makes me really excited and grateful to have y'all as classmates for the next 4 years! For those who are still waiting, I'm still thinking about you and the kindness I've received here everyday. Keep your heads up, guys!
  38. 9 points
    I think I have an idea what they like about that...
  39. 9 points
    outstanding! I was getting worried we weren't going to clear that - which would be bad news for waitlisters, and also add a lot of stress in general (this may sound a bit silly but I want people to have faith in the high waitlist system if they are going to have one). hopefully we can move deeper into the NWL now.
  40. 9 points
    moonpie

    2020 Waitlist Thread

    I also got in! Good luck to everyone! I hope you guys hear back soon too
  41. 8 points
    insomnias

    Are residents actually happy?

    Every time somebody says that, I like to point to the example of Switzerland which has residencies of comparable length to ours in most specialties while abiding by EU work hour restrictions (48h/week max with no more than 13h of continuous work), and the RCPSC recognizes their training as equivalent for the purposes of exam eligibility. The reason we have long hours during residency isn't because it's a trade-off between hours worked vs competency but because resident labour is significantly cheaper to the government/hospital than that of attending physicians.
  42. 8 points
    palladya

    Optométrie 2020

    Je viens de voir que mon dossier est redevenu à l’étude! Je devrais recevoir une offre dans pas long J’étais 29e sur la liste d’attente collégienne I can’t believe it...... I’M INNNNN
  43. 8 points
    zxcccxz

    Is the system fair?

    I think some of you are missing the point that OP is making. Obviously noone forced them to attend UofT, but this evades the problem of fairness which was the purpose of the post. If we get credit for taking a heavier/full course load in the form of wGPAs, if schools like to see that we can handle doing extracurriculars/volunteering on top of being in school rather than only doing them in the summer, and if they want your to maintain your ECs during the summer you write your MCAT or give you credit for having a part-time job during the school year--why not also give credit for having a tougher program? To address the question directly, the problem is that academics is not all that makes a doctor. Yes, UofT Life Science is a very tough program. But grades only really matter up to a certain point because really you just need enough intelligence and work ethic to pass your courses in med school. Beyond that, there are many other clinical and soft skills that make a much bigger difference towards the ultimate goal of making you a good physician (this is one of the reasons so many schools empahasize CARS). If schools start giving significant credit for completing tougher programs, they would be overemphasizing the importance of attending an unnecessarily difficult program that doesn't necessarily prepare you to be a doctor any better than someone who attended a less rigorous program (ex: if the goal of a course is to teach you algebra, should we give someone extra credit for knowing how to do multi-variable calculus?; not really, we should just give credit for mastering algebra really well). Even if schools were to give some small credit for tougher programs (and to be fair, UofC does do this as part of this "global assessment of academic merit"), it would only be marginal, and lets be honest, the difference between a 3.93 and 3.95 GPA often comes down to luck more so than any replicable difference in the academic abilities of two individuals. My view is that, the intense rigour of UofT Life Science is unnecessarily difficult. Perhaps it is useful for grad school, which is really what the UofT Life Sci program is designed to prepare you for (I personally know at least a dozen people from UofT Life Sci who got into prestigious instutions like LSE, Harvard, MIT, Oxford, Cambridge, UPenn, and JHU for grad school). But if it's any comfort, I have many friends in med school now who graduated from UofT Life Science, and they all find med to be a breeze. Most say it's a 1/3 to 1/2 easier than undergrad for them, and anecdotally, I've heard that students from grade-inflated programs like Mac Health Sci do struggle to adapt to medical school. So perhaps if you do get into med school, you'll be in a great position to succeed.
  44. 8 points
    Dr. Shqipe

    2020 Waitlist Thread

    See you all here tomorrow! LOOL maybe my wishes take a business day to reach Ottawa
  45. 8 points
    Jennifer_Dickens

    weird feeling

    I started medical school at 32, years after traveling the world, gaining rich and varied work experience, and becoming fluent in multiple languages. I feel sorry for your friends who got into medical school on the first try at the tender age of 20 or 21. Many of them are likely to graduate and become disheartened as residents because their young, idealistic minds expected much more than managing bed issues at 3:00 AM. They're also more likely to get burned out, get divorced and become severely suicidal; if you've applied four times, that means you've become familiar with the taste of rejection, and you've had to continue working hard despite that bitter experience. In brief, you've developed your resilience. Your colleagues, on the other hand, have not had the same, valuable opportunities to strengthen themselves. And how many of those colleagues who got in on the first try now feel stuck because they've incurred debt, don't know how to get out, and feel miserable pursuing a career that doesn't fulfill them in the least? We need way more medical students who are older and have unconventional backgrounds; medicine - especially in Canada - is quite stagnant and in need of original approaches.
  46. 8 points
    kwrgvnq

    worried about fitting in

    Hi, I know exactly how you feel. And your story is not as rare and unique as it may seem. I myself am also Muslim woman of colour and the anxiety I feel about fitting in with my classmates is real. But you got into med school. You out competed hundreds of applicants regardless of the hardships that you have gone through. You have achieved what many people can only dream of. The fact that you got into med school despite your circumstances means that you belong here. Everyone who got into med school is unique and different and belongs exactly where they are. You will without a doubt find groups of people you feel comfortable around, friendships you never thought possible, and hopefully a family among your medical school classmates. We are all in this together and if you come in with the mentality that you will not fit in, you likely will block yourself off from potential connections with your fellow students. Keep your head up. You deserve this and you will more than fit in if you give yourself the chance to get to know your other classmates.
  47. 8 points
    Got in off the waitlist at ~11 am PST yesterday. 509 MCAT. GPA 3.94, started undergrad with a 3.3 ECs: varied, lots of life experiences. Hospital, sports, really a touch of everything. Research: 1st author pub in good journal, other pubs in various journals. Interview: MMI I had good answers in my head but unsure how they came out ( a little bit scattered). Panel was good but I gave a couple of awkward answers. Came off as genuine, I think. 5th time applying, only did MCAT once and was planning to redo this summer since it's now expired. Surreal moment.
  48. 8 points
    DMD2212

    DMD 2020

    Omg guys j'ai reçu mon avis officiel d'admission!! J'étais 7e sur la LA collegienne!
  49. 8 points
    newmy88

    2020 Waitlist Thread

    That’s the thing, they aren’t in the office so they aren’t picking up the phones due to coronavirus (I’ve actually called a couple times after hours to listen to the voicemail LOL). We’re unfortunately limited to e-mails which I assume they’d likely ignore But maybe you’re right!! I wouldn’t mind giving it a try during hours if I can muster up the courage.... haha See y’all tomorrow for another fun filled day of waiting!!!
  50. 8 points
    greysweater

    2020 Waitlist Thread

    Hoping for good energy for the 7:41ers today
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