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  1. it'd be a hard comparison to make unless you actually go out and try other fields. You would only have a small idea of another profession after speaking people in the field. Also, quality of life and work/life balance can vary drastically between different associate positions as well.
  2. dental education is completely lacking on the business side... which does not make sense. Glad to have helped. Like the people in this thread, I was in their position 8 years ago. Finished undergrad, applied to Australia for dental school and got in. I thought my life was set... 4 years out of dental school, and my life is far from what I expected it to be. It's important to have an idea of how things will be after dental school.
  3. And let's not forget the big banks that shell out these massive lines of credits to dental students. Just wait until you're a dentist - the banks will throw even more loans at you. Just their way of making you spend and pay interest. I have the same mind set as you. I worked in rural australia for 1.5 years. I worked 1.5 hours outside of toronto for about a year. And now i'm in Saskatchewan. Go where you are needed. You've pointed out the pros and cons of corporations, but from personal experience, it's just been bad. Mostly because they have a lot of non-dentists working for them, analyzing which procedures are most profitable over time. Australia has many different corporate clinics. I've heard that some give the dentist a lot of autonomy, so it runs like a regular private practice. The one I was at was like a factory. One good thing about the place I worked at was there was regular audits, to ensure that we all saw xrays the same way and that we treatment planned the same way... but it was a very high stress environment. I'd be okay with corporates if there was the following: no quotas or pressure to treat/produce autonomy renumeration that is standard for the industry they stopped influencing institutions to pump out more dentists - (Dental students get screwed over with debt, and patients don't really benefit)
  4. Answer: corporate dentistry. and Money. This may sound like a conspiracy theory, but it all made sense after my last boss mentioned it to me and after I reflected on my own experience working in a corporate dental office. Dental corporations may be influencing institutions to create a surplus of dentists, who will graduate with big debts and be desperate to take any job. These graduates end up taking positions with corporate practices. Ultimately the corporate practices (and the people on top) benefit from having so many dentists who will do as they are told to maximize profits. Dentists working for corporates are led to believe that they are lucky to have a guaranteed base salary. People in 400k+ debt want to know that they'll be able to make the monthly payments on their loans. This is a huge thing in the states, and it's a growing issue in Australia. I worked for large corporate practice in Sydney and it was the worst job I ever had - short appointments and being pushed by people above me to treat. The biggest dental corporation in Canada, DentalCorp, was started in Australia and made it's way to Canada in September 2011, which was just over a year after the AUS-CAN reciprocal agreement. This is not a coincidence. The reciprocal agreements are giving the corporations what they need - desperate dentists who need to pay off their loans. It's all about greed and money - not what patients need.
  5. It's a money making scheme. Australian universities make A LOT of money off international students . ~1/3 of the student population at the university of melbourne is international, mainly from Asia. Eg. at melbourne dental school, the local students fell into 2 categories - commonwealth supported places (CSP), and full fee paying spaces (FFP). CSP students' tuition was about 9K a year. FFP students' tuition was 7K less than the international student fee. My class was ~75 people: ~25 canadians, 10 were CSP, and the remaining were full fee paying students. Having international students made tuition less for the local students, but it still gives the university profit. It's not that they can't fill the seats with local students.. they just want to fill the seats with people who are willing to pay more for them (Canadians). From speaking to Sydney dental grads, their classes were closer to 50% canadian. Edited to include some stats
  6. Those seats are reserved for international students, whose tuition covers the fees for local Australian students.
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    Is shadowing important?

    you should shadow even if it's not required so that you have a better idea of what the job entails. It's not just drilling, filling and billing.
  8. I don't think it would have changed my mind about my career choice. There are many things that i could do to make things better such as going to the gym, stretching, playing sports etc to balance out the muscles that I overuse. Dentists probably have it worse off compared to many professions because we have to contort ourselves to in ways to ensure patient comfort and to visualize and access our tiny work space.
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    Undergraduate degree problem

    It's always a good idea to have a back up plan, but I don't think your back up plan should be something that greatly hinders you from achieving your main goal. I picked a difficult program that had co-op, but it was so challenging that I was not even competitive to study in Canada. In hindsight, i would have been better off in another (easier) program, and not focused so much on "what if I don't get in?".
  10. As with any repetitive job or activity, there will be wear and tear. The longer that you do it, the worse it will be. With that said i can think of several dentists working past the age of 65. Personally, I experience upper body muscle stiffness and soreness all the time. Sometimes following extremely long and difficult procedures i can't even turn my head without being in pain for days afterwards. I get pain shooting down my left leg from sitting too long. i have to see a physiotherapist once a month. If it's affecting my quality of life now (3 years after graduating), I can only imagine how bad it is later.
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    Are all Bachelor of Science Degrees Equal?

    people get into medical school with all sorts of degrees and majors/minors etc. So long as you meet pre-requesites, GPA and MCAT cut offs, it doesn't matter what you take.
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    Mental Health and Licensing

    I assume that you're registering with the Ontario college. I know someone who had ticked "yes" to the question that follows the question that you need to answer: "Have you at any time during the previous ten years suffered from a physical or mental condition or disorder which has impaired your ability to practise dentistry safely and competently or which, if left untreated, would have impaired your ability to practise dentistry safely and competently?" The person I knew had contracted a respiratory disease that was successfully treated. However, the registrar, who is a lawyer by trade, kept requesting more information. The registrar finally contacted the registrant's doctor with very specific questions regarding the condition and how it would impact their ability to practice dentistry - something he could have done with Toronto Public Health. The registrant's application was delayed by over a month because of the registrar's ignorance.
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    6th year, wondering if I should even bother

    What's the year by year breakdown of your GPA along with your courseload.
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    Third Year Clinical Experience

    despite being trained to be "perfect", everyone will have misadventures in dental school and in private practice. You learn the most from your mistakes.
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    The slow decay of dentistry

    In theory I agree.. but the countless number of UK dentists that I have met and worked with in Australia have indicated to me that being an NHS dentist was much more difficult than being a dentist in private practice in Australia (which is essentially the same as it is in Canada). Their main complaints were being limited to specific treatment options they could offer, short appointment times, and being overbooked/overworked.
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