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  1. Currently a resident. I had a 2.1 GPA or something similar for my first four years of undergrad (with a huge downward trend, fourth year was 0.7 GPA - whoops). The advice everyone above has is good. Your goal is possible but will involve MUCH sacrifice. If you're really going to put yourself out there, you should probably try to go in person to admissions offices at Queen's / Western with your transcripts and try to talk to someone. The last thing you need is to spend a year or two taking a full courseload and find out it doesn't count because you inadvertently violated one of Western's second degree rules.
  2. Worked during my first year (about 20 hrs/week). It's doable, particularly if you've already been working through a busy course load. That said, I would probably recommend against it unless (1) you really need the money and/or you'll feel really guilty spending your LOC, (2) you really love the job and it'd be a bit of an escape for you, (3) the job is in some sort of area within medicine that you plan to pursue (i.e. research etc). Otherwise you may find you end up compromising your education or your work-life balance for something that, in the end, is a drop in the bucket in terms of the debt you'll accrue.
  3. Read my stickied post on this forum on thinking about a second undergrad, it still applies. I had a 2.1 or something in my first 4 years of undergrad; just starting residency now.
  4. Here's a good addition: Queen's University in 2000: Biology 101 - average 70 Math 121 - average 71 Chem 112 - average 72 Phys 107 - average 72 Psyc 100 - average 74 and in 2001: Organic chem - 62 (womp womp)
  5. You will most likely need to have your undergraduate grades converted by WES: http://www.wes.org/ca/index.asp Your application will largely be dependent on your undergrad grades and your MCAT score. Schools often have special criteria for PhD candidates including all of those listed above, but you will still need to make minimum cutoffs based on your GPA and MCAT. Contact all of the schools you can for specifics. I would also start thinking about whether a second degree pathway (2 years with transfer credits) would be right for you.
  6. Personally, I think that it's worth doing whatever you can now to try to become a "traditional" applicant. I can see a MAJOR issue around the time of applications/interviews will be explaining why you want to do medicine. Your plan is to quit a successful career and to take the medical school spot of someone who will likely practice 20 years more than you. I think you're going to need to have some rock solid evidence that medicine is right for you. I would try to obtain any medical experience possible, whether that's volunteering in a healthcare setting, shadowing physicians, or starting clinical research. Anyway it sounds like you won't have a problem with GPA/MCAT which is more than half the battle. You can use current managers etc as references. The big challenge I see is to make sure that this is right for you. You're proposing spending 6-10 years of your life training for an opportunity to practice for a short period of time. It's going to cost you millions of dollars in lost income (assuming as a partner in a law firm you make around the same as an MD), it's going to put you back to the bottom of the totem pole in training and it's a huge time commitment during a period in which you're raising children. You really need to make sure this isn't a "grass is greener on the other side" type of dream.
  7. Well I dunno. You're in a tough spot because of your MCAT. As it stands now I don't think you'd have any hope in Canada. Have you taken many practice tests? Did your VR ever get into the 11+ range? If you're not really able to break 10 on VR you're going to have a lot of difficulty. You would be someone I would recommend looking into Australia or Ireland if you're not able to get that MCAT score up. You should also be very seriously considering backup plans. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news here, I just don't see what value more undergrad would add (even with a high MCAT more undergrad MAY make you eligible for Ottawa and marginally improve your chances at McMaster/NOSM, but I think you'd need to do another full honours degree for Western)...
  8. What worries me a little is that you've done 5 years and none of them are close enough to get into meds. You will need >3.8 at a bare minimum and there's a big difference between a 3.5 and a 3.9. Can you do it? You should read my "thinking about a second undergraduate degree" post stickied at the top of this forum. I don't think the Caribbean is a much better option. However, if you or your family is wealthy you could consider Australia or Ireland. The match rate coming back to Canada isn't the absolute worst (around 60%) which is much higher than elsewhere.
  9. I don't know of many Canadian schools that post match lists just because they often list people's personal information. Certainly I'm not aware of any public match lists shared from Queen's. Why do you ask, though? It's probably not a very helpful statistic for choosing between schools since Canadian schools all do roughly the same in the match. Furthermore, I'm not sure if a school's overall match rate has much bearing on how individuals tend to match.
  10. I agree with the above. To summarize: 1) Contact each school to see how they will handle your 'special' year 2) Your research is going to depend on productivity. Undergrads apply to medicine with everything from zero research to many first author high impact papers, some even have patents. If you get several papers out of your research it will look quite good, otherwise it's likely merely average. 3) If you want medicine, go for medicine. Don't bother with the PhD/Master's route unless you would be happy going that way for a backup career. 4) The MCAT will make or break you. A nice balanced 12/12/12 will give you a pretty good shot at getting in whereas with your current score you have a very low chance. Also, writing the 'old' MCAT in 2015 may not even be possible and who knows how schools will evaluate it. I would either plan to rewrite before 2015 or be prepared to write the new one in 2015.
  11. In speaking with my classmates over the years it really seems like how people feel about the interview has no correlation with whether they get offers or not. Here's what I can guarantee: someone reading this who felt sick about their interview and went home and cried is going to get an immediate offer. Someone reading this who left the interview thinking it could not have possibly gone any better won't even make the waitlist. I personally left my interview feeling pretty good but after thinking about it more I realized all the things I could have said differently and actually ended up feeling very negative. Got in, though. It's a long, crappy wait until May - no two ways about it. Just do your best to focus on other things and do avoid PM101 if it's just going to stress you out.
  12. For any regional rotation, Queen's actually provides the housing for you. For instance nearly all of the core family medicine rotations during clerkship are in small communities around Ontario; housing for these is provided. There are also a few "alternative" options for clerkship - for instance right now 10 students per year get to go to Australia for a rotation and 8 do family medicine in Moose Factory. Moose Factory is totally covered and there is substantial coverage for Australia (enough for flight + accommodation). We're on our own for electives though which is pretty standard for all medical schools.
  13. I think that despite the P/F system most people perform relatively similarly to how they did in undergrad. In preclerkship at Queen's a fail is <60% and 60-65 nets you several meetings and puts you on the administration's radar. That said, the average on exams tends to be around 80% which is still quite high. Where I'm going with this is I think the pressure comes off a bit, but people still have the internal drive to do well. So although I found there to be more volume of material, the pressure to do exceedingly well dropped. So I found things easier than undergrad as a result. Clerkship is a whole different beast though. I suspect there are people out there who do find it easier than undergrad, I find it way more challenging. This is because I have far less free time than I'm used to and because I feel the pressure to do well is back in full force. That said, it's a way more enjoyable experience than sitting in the classroom.
  14. You should also either be a Canadian citizen or permanent resident. If you're not there are still a few schools that offer spots but these are VERY limited, you will need to research it.
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