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  1. Registered for Sep 14 and looking for a study buddy throughout the summer as well! Msg if interested
  2. No consequences in not writing as far as I know. Nobody (any med school) would ever know that you even wrote it that day. I believe some med schools do look at/average your mcat marks, so it would be best to double check with all schools you are interested in applying to.
  3. Ok so for extra resources whats the verdict? NS108 vs. EK 101 Verbal vs EK 101 CARS ( I only have money to buy one)?
  4. So on your scrap paper you would write down the passage number at the top: Then break the passage down into each paragraph on your scrap paper and write a one to three word description of what that paragraph was talking about (very general) Do that for every paragraph, so if a topic comes up in one of the questions you can refer back to it.
  5. The BSAP program to my understanding was started by physician alumni, current students and other U of T faculty and staff to address the underrepresentation of the Toronto black/brown skin population in the UGME program. MedRock has outlined above the different factors (on top of SES) that students from this population face. The SES program you are suggesting sounds like a great idea and is of course an issue, maybe a group of current med students would be willing to lead that cause? I think an extra layer of difficulty has been added akin to the layer that was added with ISAP, and with reserved spots for grad/phd students. (Medical school in Canada is just plain difficult to get into, no matter how you slice it.) The many barriers (which exceed those of low SES) that currently exist for applicants from this population are concerning and have added several layers of difficulty to their successful applications for quite some time, which is finally being addressed now. If you are indeed in favour of an application process that recognizes those from low SES, then you should be in favour of BSAP as it is a step in the right direction to acknowledging the disadvantages faced by some populations in gaining admittance to medical school. I personally think the barriers that exist for BSAP students currently exceed those of low SES individuals, as SES is a large issue in that community as well but racial discrimination on a systemic and institutionalized level does not exist for the remaining individuals.
  6. Can you please explain how an increase in black/brown skin students at U of T is correlated to a decrease in students from other underrepresented groups in comparison to non-black students taking those seats? Regardless of the race of the individual that takes the seat, it means less seats for all the other students, not just underrepresented groups. Unless U of T has some sort of minority quota that you are privy too, which I don't think is the case at all. Also black/brown people make up 8.5% of the Toronto population but much less than that currently in the U of T class (1/259 in the class year that just finished). Numbers for rest of Canada are skewed due to rural areas, and places out west/east where said population is near non-existent. If you don't mind me asking, what would a low SES application program look like? There are the obvious barriers from people from these population as shown by your figures (great figures btw) but would this be based on how much your family income is??
  7. I am a little bit confused because I thought your position was against having different forms of evaluation for different student groups? U of T's website even states that Grad applicants may/will be reviewed by a separate graduate application committee. So why do grad students need their own sub-committee? And why is that acceptable but the BSAP program seems to be an issue for some on this forum?? We also can't gloss over the fact that many students from disadvantaged populations cannot afford the time nor financial costs associated with doing a Master's/PhD degree as they come from low income households and need to provide support to their parents ASAP via engaging in gainful employment. Nonetheless, in my opinion I do not believe that there is a discrepancy between the two, so if one is fine with you, then I am quite sure the other should be as well. Unless, I am missing some other mitigating factor in your position that you have yet to verbalize (write out). I don't see how it creates further divide in the population when we know systematic/institutionalized racial prejudices/stereotypes exist towards people from this population. Maybe, if that were indeed the case for everyone from all different races then we could most definitely make that argument. Again, I understand you are just stating your opinion that it will create a divide, but you might be overlooking the issue that a divide already currently exists for different members of our beautiful Toronto population. It can be very hard to understand the specific disadvantages related to growing up black/brown and the cultural obstacles that are faced on a daily basis, if you yourself have not experienced this. I believe this has been identified by the decision makers up top as a gap that currently exists in the evaluation process. Hence the creation of BSAP and the "special" committee. I understand that as pre-meds most of us want to go to U of T, and it may be looked as a decrease in our own personal chance of gaining admission if we do not fit into this category. However, I imagine that this was the response that occurred when the ISAP was instituted as well. So let's just give it a chance and trust the process. Regards,
  8. No problem, hope it helps and good luck!
  9. I do a very short passage map, while I'm reading the passage. This allows me to know where certain ideas where in which paragraph and then refer back quicker should the need arise. You should do this as your reading and shouldn't take up much of your time.
  10. Have you looked at the explanations to see why you are getting the questions incorrect? Is there any pattern?? Try to identify your weaknesses. For me when I first started it was missing tiny details that I read over in the passage to often or not slowing down to read the actual question stems.
  11. I disagree with your opinion on there being an "obvious leg up" provided to applicants who choose to apply through BSAP. With this implied notion, the same question could/should be asked of applicants who apply through the indigenous student application program? How about students who recently completed their masters being given a leg up?? What about students who completed a PhD recently??? The latter 2 of which have distinctly low wGPA requirements (3.0 cutoff) to gain admission to the UGME program at U of T. Historically low GPAs of sub 3.5 have been admitted to U of T's UGME for students who have completed their Masters or PhD, so lets not turn a blind eye to these facts, which seem acceptable somehow.... Aside from instituting the BSAP program, the Community of Support has also been instilled which aims to provide future applicants or aspiring students from these disadvantaged populations with access to physician mentors/connections/resources and information services that will overall bolster their applications and address the dichotomy that exist between students from certain ethnic or racial backgrounds. This will provide future students with the same opportunities as everyone else. I also disagree with the notion that many black/brown applicants do indeed apply and are not accepted because they are not on par with their peers. First, U of T's UGME has never collected information about an applicants race prior to this BSAP application cycle, so the school itself wouldn't know which applicant is black/brown, white or asian (until the interview stage) rendering this notion moot. Second, all applicants are free to write an academic explanation essay that can explain there shortcomings (which current UGME students who I personally know have done so to their advantage). Lastly, being evaluated by your own peer group is currently the norm for many of the current applicants to the program. So for a student who comes from a disadvantaged population (be it indigenous or black/brown) it does seem fair that they are afforded the same opportunity, allowing for their differences to be noticed, and not glossed over under the guise of "normalcy". Ultimately, there is no set quota, and U of T will not lower their standards just to say they have students from a particular racial background. This is bigger than that and is more than likely aimed at addressing a systemic issue that persists across academia. What the results will be, only time will tell but it's a good step forward in my book. Regards,
  12. I'm also writing late August. Sounds like a great idea and I'm in
  13. Thanks for the info, I wonder what is considered a "good" location
  14. Epi, are you starting a program this fall?
  15. I'm starting mine in September, whats up?
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