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  1. 1- whats your preferred learning style? Mac is all self directed learning and PBL, Western I believe uses mostly lectures with some combo of other styles. Ottawa is a hybrid, lectures+self-directed learning. Classes at ottawa usually run from 8-12, and after that its self-directed learning so you pick what activities to do. 2- where do you want to do residency? usually students go to where they want to do residency later on as you can make connections with doctors and program directors at the school your at. 3- what city do you prefer? 3-4 years is not a short time, and living in a city you like might make a difference in helping you enjoy those years.
  2. Here is another thread about opportunities as well. So not everything is available in Kingston (coming from Epona who is a queens student) and you may have to travel for some opportunities. Am sure you can find out more information by looking in this forum.
  3. dont get me wrong, all canadian med schools are amazing and everyone would be lucky to get into one. you may favor queens, someone else would favor uoft, everyone here is posting their perspective and information on the topic, but sauna keeps quoting everything I say to try to change the way people think about my perspective. As for quality of projects and opportunities thats another misconception about bigger schools. If your looking for a mentor and close strong relationships you can find that at Toronto as well.
  4. To the OP you can also find more about the curriculum structure and the major changes that happened at uoft on their website http://www.md.utoronto.ca/Annual_Report/look-ahead/foundations http://www.md.utoronto.ca/foundations-curriculum-courses-components-themes "In addition to content being delivered through lectures, it is thematically linked and integrated across multiple learning activities that involve various modalities such as small, expert-led group seminars, case-based learning, small-group workshops, community placements, and clinical skills sessions. To enable greater depth of content exploration, students will be introduced to content through online materials and other resources prior to their classroom sessions.Each week has a full day that is unscheduled, and available for self-study, and special activities such as clinical skill development." Hope this helps. Best of luck, you've got a bright future ahead of you.
  5. You clearly have no clue about whats going on at UofT. UofT made a major overhaul of their preclerkship program in 2016 (not the little simple changes schools make every year). They've started relying more on clinical activities and self directed learning, in combination with some lecture based material, instead of relying on lectures alone. Queens is not the only school where students start training on the clinical stuff from year 1, almost every school in Canada are doing it now (although some of these schools only adopted this model in the last few years). And many students at Toronto do research at Harvard, Yale, Stanford, and other Ivy League institutes. Being at UofT however gives you the chance to engage in that level of activities without having to travel far, and from the comfort of your own city. Something that is not only more convenient at the summer, but also is the only option if you wish to do that during school year. Not to mention that its alot easier to do that if your in Toronto in the first place, because you can meet a lot of those doctors personally. First of all am not at UofT. Thanks for the assumption. Second its very clear you have no clue whatsoever about MAM specifically or UofT in general. At MAM, the students refer to the class as MAMily (for family in reference to how tight-knit it is). did you even read what I said or are you just trying to make fun of everything I say? I said to relax from the heavy workload you will have in med school. Everyone will have a tough time, so its important to have a city that allows you to enjoy your time whenever you can so the stress doesnt add up. every person on this forum will tell you to go where you want to do residency. more connections, core rotations, better chance to meet with and get evaluated by your home school residency programs. check every other single thread regarding this topic. period. what are you smoking? it seems like some really good stuff maybe one day you will learn that not everything in life goes the way you want. life will always throw bumps in your way. just because you dont consider it, doesnt mean everyone else may not need to think about it someday. And no going to the US is not better off, unless you want to pile up 500k in debt. in case you havent noticed that was an approximation. most years it is 90 people who decline (including 2015 and 2016). in 2017 it was somewhere around 76 I think. Look up the stats in the file. Look we get it, you are a die-hard queens student who would go to the end of the world to support your school. But one thing you should have learned in medicine is the ability to appreciate multiple perspectives on a matter. Just because you think someway, doesnt mean everyone else should think the same. So dont try to force others to think the way you want them to. People have different views, whether you agree with them or not thats up to each person themselves. Thats what everyone else here is doing, everyone is giving their perspective on the matter without telling others how to think.
  6. Thats not the point. consistently year in year out queens sent about 100 initial offers for 100 spots, and usually 90 people of those decline their offers (not to mention 10 of those are Quarms spots for highschool students who all pretty much accept). UofT sends about 260 initial offers, and only about 40 of those decline their offers (i.e about 90% of students declined their queens offers vs 15% decline their uoft offers). official stats in the links all canadian schools stats are here so you can clearly see how many offers were sent and declined at each school including queens (doesnt include uoft stats): http://uoitdcpremed.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/2018-AdmissionRequirements_en.pdf and heres the uoft stats for last year :
  7. Congrats for securing both offers, its amazing. Here are some points you might wanna consider 1- UofT has revitalized their curriculum with less traditional lectures and more self-directed learning a couple years ago. You even get an entire free day per week dedicated so you can pursue any opportunity (clinical or research) you want on that day, on top of other clinical activities that you can get involved at on other days. UofT realized some of their earlier limitations where they used to focus alot on traditional lectures, and have set to correct it with this new curriculum that started on 2016. So any match rates you might hear about are not representative because these rates represent previous cohorts that had the previous curriculum. 2- You will have your pick of research, shadowing, and clinical opportunities at UofT, and with more top-file doctors and professors, who will much more likely be working on top-tier projects, so you have a much better chance of building a more impressive CV and make connections in Toronto, which will help you match later on if you want to match to Toronto (home advantage). You have access to SO SO MANY hospitals and specialists in Toronto, which has speciality hospitals dedicated to certain specialties. Toronto hospitals are also among the best in North America and the world. 3- I have friends at MAM, and contrary to their initial thoughts, they loved it more than they ever they would. MAM has a very small (about 50 student) class, very tight-knit community, and you get to know everyone in your class pretty well. Even smaller, tighter, and more tight-knit than queens (which has 100 students). 4- which city do you wanna live at? 4 years of your life is not a short time. Toronto is a big city with so much opportunities, has anything you wish to have, and you can do anything you personally want to do. Great city, buildings, entertainment, bars, restaurants, places, food, lake etc etc. This can be crucial when trying to relax from the heavy schedule you will have in med school. Kingston on the other hand is a pretty small town, with barely anything to do, which is a turnoff for many students who want to make the most of their years while they can. 5- where do you want to do residency? If you want Toronto, then pick UofT. You will have so much more time and opportunities to build connections with doctors, faculty and program directors there which is the most important factor for matching into residency. 6- MAM is pretty much 20-30 mins from downtown Toronto. There is even a dedicated university bus that goes out from MAM campus and drops you off at downtown campus all the time. And the students I know studying there spend a lot of their time in downtown anyway, so your pretty much in downtown. 7- UofT has much higher prestige and reputation, and is much much better known internationally, especially in the US. 8- very very few people turn down their offers to UofT, usually to stay in their province (despite sending out 250+ offers). Whereas most people reject their initial offers at queens (waitlist moves by about 100 spots every year despite the school sending only 100 initial offers). All in all its your choice and no one can decide for you. But based on what you said, it seems like MAM is a better fit. More clinical/research opportunities, very much around downtown Toronto, and a tighter (50 student or so), more close-knit community which seems to be what you are looking for
  8. Dont get me wrong, all programs in Canada will give you a good education. By top-tier specialists, I didnt mean in terms of teaching, but more so in terms of securing opportunities to work with them for example in research projects. By their nature, they will be taking higher profile projects in their work, so students who join them get to be part of that and get to build a more impressive CV come CARMS time. Similarly you can't compare match numbers that way. UofT has many more students gunning for very very competitive specialities without backing up, which by definition means a lot of students dont end up getting into. Proportion has already been taken into account, whichever school you look at you find more students coming from that school itself than any other school whether its a small or big school. You dont see UofT grads for example having top spot of residents in any other school, even though uoft is bigger. I think Atherus last post points to something, ENT, Optho, and Plastics are among the 3 most competitive specialties to get into in Canada. Just having that number of students actually trying to match into them from UofT shows you why you see some students go unmatched, and again shows my point that more students gunning for very competitive specialties are in UofT. If anyone is gunning for those specialties, they should realistically be expecting to go unmatched rather than matched imo, because the chances are just so slim.
  9. Lots of bias in the above post as well (but thats understandable, no one is going to side with another school over their own. Emotions always beat logic). This might be the first time anyone on this forum has said "home advantage is not a thing for residency", and I encourage you to check out other posts in this forum so you can check for yourself about this fact. Everyone in this forum tells you to pick the school where you see yourself doing residency. Home school advantage exists, and it exists everywhere. It is not a coincidence that UofT has by far the highest number of residents at UofT (which is the most competitive school for securing residency in Canada btw). If you look at any school in Canada, you will see that the highest number of residents (and by a big margin from competitors) come from that school itself. This is simply because you will have way more time and opportunities to connect with faculty, program directors, and doctors in UofT if you are in UofT. You will have the chance to make connections at your school in your core rotations, something you cannot do elsewhere. You will be closer to everything going on in your school to secure opportunities, which no doubt correlates to a much bigger chance getting into residency. Its not a coincidence that UofT students secure the biggest number of residencies in UofT EVERY SINGLE YEAR (and by a big margin, I think UofT students secured about 50% of residency spots in UofT last time I checked). Its also not a coincidence that almost no one declines their offer to Toronto, despite the school sending 250+ offers. While almost everyone at queens rejects their initial offers where the waitlist itself moves by nearly 100 spots every year even though they send only 100 initial offers. As for falling in the cracks because its a big school, this is simply nonsense. UofT has 260 students but they are divided into 4 streams. So you get 4 close-knit communities, and you get about 60 student communities (even smaller than queens class itself). But on top of close-knit cohorts, UofT also has world-renowned hospitals and top specialists, (something you wont find in queens). And for the city itself, Kingston doesn't even come close to what Toronto could offer. If you are used to a big city like Toronto, it might be difficult to adjust to a much smaller and emptier town. You may also want to stay closer to family and friends around home? So which city you come from originally also plays a role. Having an established network of friends and family will definitely help, especially during clerkship which is a very stressful time, and you could need all the support you could get.
  10. i would avoid putting it under other. You can put it in volunteering. All in all it doesnt matter where you place them, it matters what you learned and how you describe them. I would put long term ones
  11. Congrats on securing both offers, that is a feat. Mac and Queens both have a great program. I have plenty of friends at Mac who have thoroughly enjoyed their experience at Mac and couldnt have been happier anywhere else. Again they are PBL directed, so the match between the program and their personalities made their med school experience memorable. If you are PBL directed, I think Mac's program was built for students like you. Those picking other schools are usually used to normal didactic learning, which you can find lots of at queens and other schools. My friends at Mac didnt feel disadvantaged. And my friends still got what they wished for. Mac's matching rate is pretty solid, and a great number match to very competitive specialties every year. However Mac also has the advantage of an additional year of electives. If for any reason you are not satisfied with 3 years of schooling, you can always choose to have a 4th year, during which you can pursue any sort of electives and clinical opportunities or research that you want. This gives you significant advantage in terms of how much opportunities you can have while controlling for how many years you want to stay in the program. So if you compare a 4-year Mac vs 4-year queens program, you will see that Mac has more opportunities to offer (given that Mac starts clerkship in 2nd year, you will have almost an extra year of electives). Again, there is a good chance that you dont need it, and you can finish in 3 years if you find thats what you best need, but you cant do that at queens. One thing to consider is that queens may not have all the specialties you might be looking for. There are certain specialties that you would have to travel to other schools to have the opportunity to engage in. You should also consider which school you want to do residency at later on? Home advantage for residency is a thing, you will have more time to make connections with people at the school you attend. That being said, Hamilton is pretty close to Toronto, so you may have an easier time at Mac managing your electives and securing opportunities in Toronto. Mac has the second highest number of residents at UofT after UofT itself. You may also wanna consider the city you will be living at. 3-4 years is not a short time. Hamilton is a thriving city with lots of things to do. Beautiful waterfalls, hikes, entertainment, great food, and Toronto is less than an hour away. Kingston on the other hand is pretty small, with very little to do in the city, which is a turnoff for lots of students who want to make the most of their years while they can. This can be really important when you try to relax from the heavy schedule you will be having in med. All in all, congrats again for the feat. Its not easy at all to secure both at ontario!
  12. I think alot of people here mentioned good points. You already seem to have plenty of research, so working might add a different aspect to your application. A good question to ask though is what work will you be doing in this year? Chances are you wont easily land a good job outside of research, since thats where you have most experience. Which again means you will likely be doing more research, except you wont be getting the MSC credentials for it.
  13. i think your GPA is good for ottawa. your ECs however might be abit on the lower side. But I think you can compensate by doing well on CASPer
  14. Good luck to everyone here. If youve gotten a med school interview, it means you are meant to be doctors. McMaster is an amazing school and is truly worth hanging onto. Ive got many friends in that program, and they are all so thrilled they picked McMaster. Mac has a lot of strong areas in both the clinical and research fields. All my friends at the program that I have spoken to have described the program as very stress-free and they found it quite enjoyable. Hamilton is a growing and thriving city with lots of things to do, lots of entertainment around, pretty close to Toronto, and with lots of good food and beautiful waterfalls and hikes. Its a great way to destress. And there is a true sense of community in hamilton if you wish to get involved. Let me know if you wanna know more about Mac
  15. this is insane! i think your MCAT is fine, others have gotten in with lower. Am 99% certain its something to do with your references. Either red flagged or very lucklustre
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