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  1. Hey everyone, hope ya'll enjoyed the holidays and are pumped for some MMI action that's just around the corner. I just wanted to let those of you prepping for interviews about practice opportunities approaching over the following weeks. The pre-med society (run by a few med 1's, 2's, 3's & 4's) will be putting on a small presentation (MMI tips & tricks we found useful) & a couple mini-mock MMI's for anyone that's interested @ the Fort Garry campus. We typically post details to the facebook page 'Pre-Medical Society (Umanitoba/St.B PMS branch)' so join up to stay posted on when the meetings will be. If you don't have facebook you can PM me and I can keep you informed as well. Good luck!
  2. Hey peeps, not to hijack the thread here but a few of us med 2's & med 1's will be putting on some mini-mock MMI's at Fort Garry campus sometime around mid to late January. The first session usually starts with a presentation of hints & tips we've found helpful during our MMI experiences. If any of this interests you please join the Pre-Medical Society (Umanitoba/St.B PMS branch) facebook page as that's where we typically post details of gatherings. Thanks!
  3. The rural coefficient works the same as it always has - there has been no additional emphasis on it. The only difference is the SES multiplier (if they even formally used it and didn't just put it in to collect information). Also our class interviewed very well which allowed lower scores in other areas.
  4. GPA and age really should be the least of your worries when looking to get into U of M. Many of us that got in last year took numerous gap years, came in from other careers or restarted university from scratch later on in life (myself). The two key things I would say are of particular importance are MCAT and your experiences. Because of the MCATs heavy weight at U of M it's unfortunately an unavoidable monster you have to work your ass off for and tackle head on. Your GPA can almost always be salvaged with enough extra courses and the adjustment they allow. Experiences are of critical importance when you do get that interview. It helps an enormous amount being able to backup your MMI scenarious with real events that are personal to you. This is why 'working in a hospital' really isn't necessary (unless you absolutely have to) - you should pursue things that interest you as they'll reflect more passionately when you talk about them later. Also, you'll have plenty of time to be in a hospital throughout med school, enjoy other things for now. Additionally, dig deep and find out what it really is that draws you to medicine and if it's actually what you want. Get in touch with an actual physician/resident (if you haven't already - you can interview one through a process career services on campus sets you up with) and ask them what exactly to expect throughout training and during a typical day. Honestly don't worry about being too old or too long out of university. Everyone at U of M med is so collegial and supportive no one cares how old you are. What matters is whether you want to be there bad enough to get through it all and being actually qualified to handle the work load which are what they're really assessing in the application. Hope this helps - please message me if you have any other questions!
  5. I'm not sure I'm fully understanding this question? Follow-up questions are part of the normal flow of the interview. Either way it's perfectly fine to finish a question early and have to sit in silence. Some scenarios just don't need as much explaining and people talk at different speeds, etc.
  6. There's an mmi meetup on Friday night at 1800. Join the umanitoba pre med society or message me for more info
  7. Interview is huge. I'd wager far more important than MCAT. If you fail more than 2 stations (IIRC) your out. You can get red flagged. You can be put in a really tough track of other students. It's a far better indicator to the faculty about your potential as a future physician so I'd focus more on this than anything else. You have great stats so you do have a larger error margin but I wouldn't use that as a crutch to take it lightly. Also a rural multiplier would be hugely advantageous for you (because of your higher stats) if you have any.
  8. https://umanitoba.ca/faculties/health_sciences/medicine/admissions/8839.html https://umanitoba.ca/faculties/health_sciences/medicine/admissions/9031.html Here are the referee guidelines. There's a template of questions that your referee can use when filling it out on the website.
  9. While your application can always be improved I would take this to mean that you got hit hardest on your MCAT and to focus your energy on re-writing it as opposed to the other criteria.
  10. My first year GPA was 0.67 (full course load). Accepted this year. You're over-thinking it. As everyone else said, use 3rd year application as a trial run. Best of luck!
  11. I feel I had the same issues when I first started practicing and what I found really useful was group discussions. So what our small group would do (3-4 people) is each person would get asked 2 successive MMI style questions. When everyone was done we would go through each question slowly, critique answers and offer multiple perspectives to get you thinking in different ways. I found this so helpful in jump starting my brain into seeing the question from a much more broad and general light. It's not about having specific background knowledge on every scenario possible because they know this isn't possible. It's more about taking the question and trying to ascertain what they're really asking. Seeing both sides of the equation and giving advantages/disadvantages to each then ultimately choosing what you think is more appropriate based on your reasoning. That being said there are a few general topics I brushed up on myself which I found came up often in sample questions. Also I know you're trying for Umanitoba so some areas like rural and Aboriginal medicine are scenarios specific to here that are likely to show up. I'll PM you with some documents I found helpful.
  12. My questions are: 1) How old were you when you started/finished medical school? And how many total years of education have you done in total? I had done about 4 years of schooling of various things before I even thought about med. 75% of that was material I'll never use or think about again (U1 and a chem eng tech diploma). The other year was contract paramedicine which was incredibly eye-opening and allowed me to gain a little life experience. After that I went back to do an undergrad (because none of my previous schooling counted) with the sole intention of medical school (was then 25). I was at a supreme disadvantage both academically (24 CH's of F's + D's) and financially (around 40k edu debt before starting). It was not easy. I applied for every grant, bursary, scholarship and extra bit of financial aid I could possibly get my hands on and it helped immensely. I only just got into medical school and I turned 29 two days ago. I don't feel bad about it one bit because many people simply end up settling for less or not following their passion's at all to play it safe. So at the moment I'm at 7 years and will be at 11 by the time I'm done. 2) If you did about 10 years of school, was it difficult to keep the motivation after ten years of studying? Did you feel like you were missing out on life compared to all your friends that are already married/have kids/own houses? This really hits home for me. It was extremely hard to power through the majority of undergrad because I was going back specifically for medicine and most of the courses I had to drone through had 0 practical application for that future. I'd argue that my year of paramedicine was 1000x more useful than all the theory that you take in during an undergrad and it made it particularly aggravating at times. I had to constantly remind myself what it was all for and I'm so glad I kept with it. In terms of feeling left behind it was absolutely soul-crushing for me. Almost all my friends had careers in trades or had traveled the world or had 2-3 kids and a houses/vehicles/cabins. What I realized later on is that many of them were also stuck living back in my hometown wishing they had got out (small, northern rural town). Many put up picture-perfect moments on facebook but deep-down weren't really that happy with the marriage they were in or career they chose. I felt like a failure many times screwing up my U1 and constantly changing my mind about what I wanted to do but I never settled and I'm happy I didn't because I've finally found it. It was worth the sleepless nights staying in studying on the granola bar diet while my buddies came through the city throwing cash around and partying. 3) Is it possible to work during medical school, and if so, how many hours, and during which years (I am assuming only 1 and 2)? I know many people say not to bother working since the income would be so low, but if I finish my back-up program next year, and I would be able to work a flexible job (could work evenings and weekends in a health care setting) and earn 30$/hour (and frankly it is the only way I can afford it) Judging by how much school you've done already I'd say when you get in (and you will if you keep at it) just relax in your spare time. Academic work is draining and years 3 + 4 are so busy (I'm told) that you'll be happy you enjoyed yourself as much as possible during your down time. I wholly agree with the others in this thread in focusing on work for a while might be the best option for you right now (or when you finish your program). Keep at the med application process going on the side but a change of pace might entirely change your perspective on things. For the money side of things - once you are accepted it's usually not an issue. I have some SERIOUS educational debt right now with almost no assets to speak of but there's a ton of financial assistance available after you have that acceptance letter (eg: LoC, ROS programs, bursaries, grant, etc). I completely understand the financial part of the equation your going through and I know it's a crushing weight on your shoulders. At one point I was doing manual snow removal (3am-8am) before school everyday just to afford groceries. It sucked. It sucked so hard. But suffering + rejection build character which allow you to grow and truly appreciate the good times. 4) Were you able to drastically improve (going from like bottom quintile to top quintile) your MMI skills over the course of 8 months? What did you do to improve your skills? I can tell you that I'm a very socially anxious person. Just thinking about the MMI 3 years before I had to do it made me tremble. I'm terrible at interviews and give off an unfavorable first impression. It took a ton of practice to develop those skills. And that's all interviewing is - a skill that can be honed over time. Video-recording myself doing multiple mock-scenarios was absolutely cringe-worthy at first but it helped me infinitely in identifying my flaws. Other advice which has been mentioned is practicing with people you don't know. This is huge. People that aren't your friends have nothing to lose by giving you honest feedback and they often have unique perspectives. There's tons of resources in place to get involved with these types of groups and it is a little discouraging + scary at first but completely worth it. My method was to have a group of friends I practiced with regularly, a group of people I didn't know and the self-recording sessions. The entire process was extremely discouraging for me at times and I often thought I was making a huge mistake in not just moving home and getting a high-paying job at the local mine. I know hearing tough news sucks but I promise you your hard work will pay off eventually.
  13. I'm not sure which schools you'll be applying for in particular but your stats will need to be tailored to meet the competition at those schools. Pretty well every school has statistics that you can look at to see where you need to be so let that be a guide of what to aim for. In terms of your EC's I can tell you that you have a far more diverse set of experiences than I did and I've just been accepted so I'd agree with the above poster in needing to focus on grades now. My GPA after first year of uni was 0.67 (yes your reading this correctly). It was an extraordinary amount of work to get this back up to something competitive but it can be done if you want it bad enough. Don't let this small obstacle get in the way of your future.
  14. I'd have to agree with manmed in that there's no set # but based on the last few years stats they seem to give offers to about 1/3 of the applicants in the pool and about half tend to be from OOP. If I had to guess I'd venture it's because their stats are higher and the criteria actually does take into account MMI + MCAT scores even though they say they don't anymore. Last year the Aboriginal Pool was worded differently in that the composite score for it was made up of something like (10%AGPA + 15%MCAT + 20%References + 5% Autobio + 50%Interview). I'm a firm believer that they still use this model for the most part but just changed the description of it.
  15. I can tell you that there definitely have not been 10 people accepted from the Aboriginal Pool. I know this because I attended an Aboriginal Interview Workshop and met everyone applying into that pool and only very few of them have been accepted. Those who were accepted could very well have been accepted through MB Pool as I know they had very good stats and interview skills. In terms of myself I was very likely accepted into the Aboriginal because my MCAT put me at an enormous disadvantage in being put through the MB pool even though I believe my interview went very well (but who really knows). The way it was explained to me is that if you were offered admission on May 18th you could have been accepted through either pool (although if accepted through MB on this date you would have been a pretty strong applicant and thus high on the list). If your accepted on June 1 you were definitely not accepted via Aboriginal Pool. This may be incorrect but judging by the A-Pool's criteria ('offers of admission will be extended to applicants who are recommended to the admissions committee by the FN's, Metis + Inuit Application Pool panel, regardless of composite score or MMI results') it leads me to believe there's no point in waiting till June 1st as nothing will change those applicants results. If the panel does not feel they fit the criteria for that pool or deems them more likely to be accepted into the MB pool they simply transfer them over.
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