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  1. NurseNathalie


    Hey Beekeeper, I'm just moving out of the Beverly Hills (today was my LAST day of medical school- woohoo) and a lot of people here have pets (my friend lives upstairs and has two lively dogs). I have a few friends at the Camelot who own cats too.... so, those buildings are essentially 'pet' friendly
  2. I see your point. It's not that one experience is more valuable than another, but I do think that its not wasted to need an undergrad before med school. I guess I was just trying to put a 'positive' spin on the process, so that he (or she) didn't feel so discouraged at the lenght of time to be anticipated in getting ready for practice.. s'all
  3. I don't personally see it as 'wasting' time in undergrad everything you do- and everything you learn, helps you while in medical school. This doesn't only include formal studies- but volunteering, personal attributes, and life experiences too! I like to think that I have been getting ready for medicine since I was very young... not only through undergrad and MD undergrad. It's all just a great (and sometimes rocky) journey. It's less discouraging to see it as stepping stones to the end result... and remember.. learning doesn't stop once you start practicing- this is the rest of your life as a physician.
  4. Obviously, people can experience different 'reactions' from their peers in such a situation. I think it depends on the area in which you work, and the strenghts of relationships in your workplace. (So the following is simply from what I experienced going from a 13 yr career as a nurse- to medicine). I spoke about my plans of going into medicine early into my nursing career. I don't recall anyone ever being negative or treating me any differently. Was it because they didn't think I'd actually do it? maybe... We had (for the most part) good relationships between nurses, doctors and other health care providers in our community. We were all equals, and working towards a common goal: patient care... except we recognized we did so from different aspects or with different perspectives. For me, it was no different going from nursing to medicine, than it was going from hospital work into the community- or from community to health promotion.. or to research or teaching. It was just 'wearing a different hat', and filling a different role. One of my references was one of my professors in university. She was also my boss at the time (she hired me to teach at the university and coordinate her research project). She was very supportive, and so were my co-workers. They were all happy for me when I got in, since they knew that was my dream. I recently went back to my home community for a placement (as a medical student). The nurses I worked with for years were more excited than I was, I think. It was really nice to get to work with them in a different capacity. Some of them joked that 'they had one of their own' on 'the other side' and that was a good thing! From my experience, having been a nurse- (therefore knowing what they go through , as well as the approach they have to patient care- which is very different than that of the physician)- was always really beneficial. Nurses were generally open and helpful. and knowing the system and how things work- made a HUGE positive impact in my medical education. I find that it was easier for me to fit into the team quickly, having that background. and when you're in a new area for only a few weeks and you don't know where things are and how they work- that's a life saver! anyways.. just wanted to share a 'positive' experience
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    MMI conflict of interest

    from what I understand, there is a place at the top of the form that the assessor is to tick off if there is a conflict of interest (ie: they know you). also, if there were other people in the room- perhaps the person who knows you was not the one grading you? just a thought. If you have concerns, I would suggest you contact the school and share those with them.
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    Geology to Med can it be done?

    Just wanted to say that I did a placement with one of our local docs. He is well respected in the community and his patients love him. He is one of the BEST doctors I have worked with, and was a geologist before going into medicine. He went to Mac, but I'm sure other programs have also had geologists in their ranks. He told me that although he didn't have any 'health science' background, he did well in the program and felt as prepared as his counterparts going into practice. good luck!
  7. and let's not forget.... 3 hours of Professional Competencies a week In terms of 'how much' time people spend studying- its so personalized to the student, that its very difficult to assign it a 'value'. It varies based on the type of learner you are, your previous knowledge/experience, your resources and the amount of time you wish to devote to learning. Some get away with perhaps less, but then... you get out of it what you put in. I would assume that the time required for studying would be similar regardless of the program.
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    Any practice mmi sessions?

    I have not heard of any 'formal' sessions organized yet, and unfortunately - I am unable to organize one myself this year. good luck!
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    McMaster clerkship

    Clerkship generally starts in mid-November of second year. There are 10 core clerkship rotations and 18weeks of electives: 6 weeks for: Family, OB/GYN, Psychiatry, Pediatrics, Medicine and Surgery. 4 weeks for: Emergency 2 weeks for: Geriatrics, Orthopedic surgery and Anesthesia at least, thats the schedule for the class of 2008- this could change slightly from year to year. - some of the clerkship rotations start/end with electives... perhaps that is why the students you saw at work in early Jan were just starting their clerkship Kirsteen ??! (for example, my clerkship started with a 4 week elective- and after my last day in Anesthesia next week- all I have left is 8 weeks of electives) I'm not sure if its the same lenght as with other medical schools. I would assume it would be similar.
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    Tuition Payment Date?

    You really don't have to do any of that now... at the start of the 'school year', you will receive information about available Med student Bursaries ... (actually, Cathy in the MD office is really good at notifying all students of Bursaries and Awards as opportunities present) It's also true that 'financial need' is determined using OSAP's criteria. If you can't get OSAP, you will not be eligible for most of the bursaries - HOWEVER- the school tries to give most students at least an opportunity to get a small amount ( even if they can't go after the bigger awards). I would encourage everyone to apply to OSAP this summer- as you will need to have applied to OSAP (even if you are rejected) to have access to ANY of the bursaries. good luck!
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    cost of living

    It really depends on multiple factors... tuition is just a little over $16 000/yr, an apartment will cost you anywhere between $400-800/month (can be more, can be slightly less)- most will include utilities and there are great phone plans in the Hamilton area (VoIP phones are also a good option if trying to limit your expenses). Unless things change, we also get a bus pass for getting around in the city (except in the summer). Sometimes, you have to travel for your placements - so that's an additional cost to consider... as for books, again it really depends.... I use a lot of on-line books/resources. There are numerous great resources at our disposal online, and the library has a lot of great books too... some people prefer to buy more books. The books you purchase in medical school can be claimed once you start your practice (because they then become part of your resource 'library'). Many students sell their used books at a reduced price along the way as well... I have had some good deals for purchasing more essential books. not sure if this is 'concrete' enough for you...
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    GTA = automatic rejection?

    Heavy discussion! Giving a slight advantage to those from Northern Ontario does not mean that ONLY Northern ON students are accepted (as demonstrated by the make-up of the last 2 classes)... I personally don't think there is any form of 'discrimination' or bias... every school has its own selection process criteria (some are just not in the public eye). NOSM is just trying to fullfil what it was mandated to do. I also disagree with the statement that : 'someone from Northern ON with a much lower GPA is accepted before applicants with high GPAs from urban centers'. There are SO many factors that come into play into the selection process (GPA being one)... but there's also experience and the interview, etc. I think its unfair to judge, when we don't have all the facts. I think the school has done an amazing job so far... and I'm looking forward to when they can increase their enrollment numbers.. it is a great thing for Northern Ontario! Northern dude: impressed by your posts..
  13. From what I was told, the MMI interviewers have not reviewed your 'profile' before or have a copy of your application in front of them... but having gone through the process, I can say it's really not an issue
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    Diploma to Degree

    Sent you a PM...
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    Diploma to Degree

    Thats the route I took and it worked for me... a Post-RN degree (which is just under two years) after my RN diploma was sufficient to fulfill the requirements I needed... If your friend is concerned about his application, I would suggest he speak to the admission department of the school(s) he wishes to attend - to get the information from them directly.