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  1. I agree broadly but within Ireland, RCSI is not actually considered a very desirable school to attend. One, because it isn't attached to a university which limits the social atmosphere of the school, but also because the school itself has really commercialized itself over the years, the vast majority of their students are international and paying very high fees. There are very few Irish reserved spots at RCSI and their entry standards for international students are lower. Not to say the school is bad, but just to say that it isn't better than any of the other irish schools that were or were not cut.
  2. https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/moh-cuts-overseas-medical-schools-approved-for-practise-in-11459004 On the very off chance you wanted to practice in Singapore one day, you should read this news. Singapore faces similar pressures as Canada. Medical school entry in Singapore is highly competitive, more than in Canada. In the past, singaporeans who couldn't get in at home went abroad. In the last few years the government has expanded enrollment and as a result wants to limit the number of foreign trained students and doctors coming back to Singapore Canadian schools cut from approval: CANADA Faculty of Health Sciences, University of Ottawa Faculty of Medicine, Queen’s University Schulich School of Medicine & Dentistry, University of Western Ontario College of Medicine, University of Saskatchewan Faculté de Médecine, Université Laval Faculté de Médecine, Université de Sherbrooke Faculty of Medicine, Dalhousie University Canadian schools that are still approved: http://www.healthprofessionals.gov.sg/docs/librariesprovider2/default-document-library/list-of-registrable-basic-(1-jan-2020)-medical-qualifications---effective-from-1-jan-2020.pdf
  3. Also I would add that HK has 1.9 doctors per 100,000, while Canada has around 2.7 per 100,000.
  4. "Doctors trained at the world’s top 50 or 100 medical schools should be allowed to practise in Hong Kong without taking another exam, on condition they were equipped with a specialist qualification and were of Hong Kong descent."
  5. The singaporean MOH way of doing this is specific but not sensitive. Graduates of the schools on that list more or less are reasonable quality schools, but certainly it is a butcher's approach to delicate hand surgery and there are plenty of graduates around the world who are not on the list who would make better doctors than those who are on the list. If it was singapore's mission to actually reduce the number of students coming back from low entry standard schools they should have cut more vigorously from Australia's list as entry standards for some of the big Australian schools like UQ, Sydney, Melbourne are very low (for international students) despite good rankings. I surmise that what really happened was lobbying from vested interests where singaporeans actually go (UK, Australia) meant that cuts to those schools were more limited and a THE/USNWR style ranking system was used to cull the rest. If the argument for Canada to cut stems from wanting to discourage reputable medical schools from "cashing out" and offering low entry standards to fee paying internationals, I am slightly more for that as long as there is enough warning so that those currently in the system are exempted. I will admit I don't like it when schools with a research reputation like UQ, USyd, Melbourne, RCSI, SGUL to name a few turn the medical education system into a business. It's done as a way for these institutions to make a quick buck but I think it hurts a lot of people along the way. BC actually has/had a system whereby only graduates from English speaking countries like UK/Aus/Ire/NZ were able to do electives, but I don't think that really addresses the issue whereby the aforementioned schools are lowering their entry standards in order to make a quick buck. At the same time, it is unfair to graduates of other countries that do deserve a chance but aren't given one.
  6. In the remote chance anyone was considering going to Singapore after medical school abroad, the doors are closing. Check the most current list as many schools are not even on the list in the first place. Irish and Australian schools cut from approval: IRELAND Faculty of Medicine, National University of Ireland, University College Cork Faculty of Medicine, National University of Ireland, University College Dublin Faculty of Medicine and Health Sciences, National University of Ireland, Galway School of Medicine, Royal College of Surgeons in Ireland (National University of Ireland) AUSTRALIA School of Medicine, Faculty of Health Sciences, The Flinders University of South Australia School of Medicine and Public Health, University of Newcastle Faculty of Health Science, University of Tasmania
  7. I don't believe a 1 year rotating internship is enough to allow you to practice independently as a physician. Not in this era. GP training in the UK is 2 foundation years plus 3 years of training. In the US its 3 years. I would argue that more training as opposed to less would be beneficial in Canada, especially given our 3 year medical schools. In fact in the UK they are discussing adding a fellowship to the training pathway for GPs. http://www.pulsetoday.co.uk/news/gp-topics/education/nhs-england-adviser-in-talks-with-hee-about-five-year-gp-training/20036921.article
  8. Yes, this. The tuition tax credits you amass are actually incredibly helpful because it means you essentially aren't paying taxes for the first few years of residency.
  9. If you "know" then you wouldn't have phrased your question like this: "Why is Ophtho so much less competitive than plastics when they're making double the average salary?"
  10. Theres more to a career than just money...
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    Unique Situation

    https://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/showthread.php?t=2504338 UCLan as a university is a former poly founded in 1992. What was founded in 1828 was "The Institution For The Diffusion Of Useful Knowledge". A medical school that was founded in 2014 that is catered towards international students (where the quota is for UK students instead of the other way around) is no Oxbridge thats for sure....
  12. Edict

    Whats the point ?

    this is why people sit on a couch and smoke a doobie
  13. Ontario isn't too bad especially if you aren't living in Toronto.
  14. PDs that deal with IMGs (i.e. run programs that have IMG spots) likely will have an understanding as many of them will have written it and will voluntarily declare their scores if good. Also, we aren't too far from the US and it doesn't take too much effort to understand the scores, many PDs are involved in med ed and will likely have some understanding of the american system given how important the USMLEs are in the UGME in the US. With that being said, not all PDs will know for sure and doing the USMLEs in order to help with CaRMS as the primary reason would not be an efficient use of your time.
  15. Edict

    Erratic School History - Red flag?

    I don't think they would care, certainly its not a red flag.
  16. Around 3600 a month without call stipends, and probably up to 4200-4300 with 1 in 4 call. Then you might get tax reimbursements, but that is your take home every month.
  17. Do something like MSF would be pretty cool, but yeah you have to be interested and committed to it, 12 months is a long time.
  18. I do agree with you that we are overtraining. I actually think attendings have even more ulterior motives. By overtraining, they also create competition amongst residents for these limited jobs which means residents are going to work harder for them. At the same time, I don't think its a good argument to tell someone not to pursue something they love because the job market might or might not be good. Maybe if you were on the fence, it's a good reason not to pursue it, but if you are someone open to re-locating, the possibilities are there. There are a number of surgical residents who sort of disappear off to the US. We don't hear from them again but many are making a name for themselves there. Med students are always going to pursue these specialties, the only real solution will come when programs begin to hire mid-levels to start taking part-care of the ward, so that programs can reduce the number of residency spots to allow for more grads to find jobs.
  19. This is what others have said, not my own opinion. Think what you will, but if theres 30 applicants and 20 positions, what do you think happens, it isn't illogical they select people they work with best and people who in their opinion have the right skill set/training to land the job. Heck, if it means anything to you, I am fully prepared to face the fact that I may not land a job and may have to adjust or make sacrifices along the way.
  20. I do generally agree with the point that with surgical specialties, you are very likely to have to relocate at some point in your training. This applies to medicine in general broadly, but especially in surgical specialties. This is probably a real deterrent towards pursuing this sort of training.
  21. There is a backlog in some specialties but the backlog is probably smaller than it seems. There are a group of people who are just not going to get a job and some of them will go find jobs elsewhere in other countries or retrain. I do think they should cut spots in some of these specialties genuinely, if you take the time to calculate replacement rates they do overtrain. The big variable is the US job market. In theory an open US job market could absorb any excess supply from Canada very easily.
  22. It is very possible the true demand for surgical specialists is less than the numbers we are training, but the whole issue of surgeons not retiring will eventually end. That was a good argument in 2011, but its 2019 and the surgeons are retiring. Over the next 10 years people will retire, its just that we may be training more than we actually need. Also, its an easy excuse to just blame nepotism. Nepotism does exist, but there are definitely people who use it as a crutch to explain away their own inabilities. Like in any field, people will recognize hardworking, talented, likeable people. Maybe not at that one specific institution, but someone like that would just go to another institution, even in the states if needed. There are people who haven't found jobs, but some of them are people who haven't rubbed others the right way or don't have career goals or interests that align with what people are looking for when hiring.
  23. Honestly, these kinds of passive aggressive posts just reeks of jealousy..
  24. Edict

    Campus selection

    I would rank Hamilton first. You get a more traditional med school experience, comparable to other med students, you get access to all the specialists in Hamilton and you don't have to deal with an absolutely horrible VC system. I would estimate more than half the time we had any sort of lecture, group meeting, tutorial, talk, the regional campus students would be cut out of the lecture in some form or another. In my humble opinion, if you are going to do distance learning, why are you paying 27000 a year? Matching is likely broadly similar, people match to competitive specialties from regional campuses. I don't think its a huge detriment to your career going to a regional campus, but unless you have a regional attachment to that campus, I wouldn't rank it first.
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