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  1. Do not list your resume in your personal statement. Of course you can discuss some of your extra curricular experiences, but provide another angle. In my essay, I talked about my childhood and how that inspired me to go into medicine. Whereas for the ECs, I just mentioned what I did during my college years. Send the essay to your professor or a mentor who you trust. As someone who has been through it all, I would be happy to look at it as well. Good luck!
  2. Unfortunately for international students, applying early is a MUST. If you cannot apply in the first few weeks or so (preferably send in your primary AMCAS application on Day 1), then it is likely better to wait. That one year can be used to improve your application and to write and think about secondaries (most schools don't change secondaries from one year to the next).
  3. What schools are you looking between? That may be relevant. What is more important probably is where you wish to practice, the class sizes of the schools, their curriculum etc. It is impossible for us to help you more without you telling us about the schools and your personal preferences and desires.
  4. This is difficult to answer because medical school admissions tends to be fairly holistic. Compared to law school admissions in the US (which is based almost entirely on stats), this is definitely true. With a 3.8 and a balanced 34, you definitely could have a shot at a top 20 med school, but it will be difficult as an international student. From what I have heard from international medical students and adcoms, international students are expected to have GPAs and MCATs higher than that school's average MCAT/GPA. For example, at one of the Ivy league schools into which I will likely matriculate, the average GPA/ MCAT for accepted students is 3.8 and 35. I will be matriculating with a 4.0 and 37. Another international student I know who will be going there had 3.95 and 39. I know these are daunting numbers, but unfortunately top schools expect that from international students. Lastly, is it worth it to go to a mid or low tier US MD school? Absolutely. Medicine, at least in the US, is not like law or business. School name does not mean much for residency. There is a study titled "Selection Criteria for Residency: Results of a National Program Directors Survey" that asked residency directors to rank the importance of various factors. School reputation was 9th out of 14. I suspect the reason why students from top schools do well is because those schools have more highly motivated students.
  5. I will mirror bearded frog's sentiment. I have talked to one Canadian friend who just went through the match process and he told me that if you are strong enough to get into a US md school (especially a top one), you should be fine with residency. One thing that I did not know is that most places apparently do accept international students (US MD grads and International medical school grads) for residency. For example, UCLA which basically does not take non-US med students (they say they do, but last year no one got in from hundreds of applications), does take international students for residency (even into its competitive programs).
  6. Apologies for my late reply. I am finishing up last few weeks of undergrad and things are pretty busy. Thanks to others for stepping in and offering advice. I would slightly disagree with what another poster said about your situation. There is, unfortunately, no GPA offsetting MCAT (or vice versa) for international students. As I have mentioned in other places, the average MCAT is ~33.5 (probably 34 now) and the average GPA is ~3.75 (probably closer to 3.8 now) for international students who matriculate at US medical schools. Your GPA is going to serve you well, but MCAT is definitely on the lower end, especially since it is somewhat uneven with a low verbal score. I've known many Americans who have good applications but have a sub 9 verbal score and do not do too well during the cycle. Obviously other factors could be in play, but something to think about. IF you are confident you can pull up that verbal score and your overall score, I would retake one more time. Make sure you are fully prepared for your next try because it should be your final try. Also, you should be able to submit your primary application without your MCAT and then just send in your MCAT later. So not having the MCAT will not delay the processing of your application unless you specifically wish to wait to find out your scores before applying. My best advice if apply broadly across numerous tiers and apply as early as possible. Good luck. I'm not too familiar with McMaster or Queens, but I did interview at UofT this admissions cycle and enjoyed the experience. I don't know much about Dartmouth either except for what I've heard from other folks. I heard their clinical training is not great. UofT's medical resources will almost certainly far surpass that of Dartmouth's (which is much more rural and small). As someone who prefers an urban environment with a diverse patient population, I would consider some other options. But this just depends on what you are looking for.
  7. 1. What attracts me to study medicine in the US is what attracted me to study here for undergrad. I have had the opportunity to attend a medium-sized private university, and I love the small-class sizes, the amazing professors and how flexible everyone is. Maybe I've gotten extremely lucky and maybe my Canadian friends at undergrad at UofT, UBC are overplaying their horror stories, but there is something to be said for the extra attention you receive in a more cozy environment. It is the type of environment in which I thrive. I am not too sure about medical education in Canada, but the teaching in the private US medical schools seems very personal. There are many mentors (faculty mentor, peer mentor, administrative mentor etc. etc.), and I enjoy these connections. If I do end up completing my medical education in the US, I will most likely practice here in one of the bigger cities (NYC, Boston, Chicago etc.). Also, I'd be lying if I said that I didn't consider physician's pay as a factor. Certainly not the major factor, but a factor nonetheless. 2. I'm in an incredibly fortunate position where my parents are able to pay for my medical education. If I was under different circumstances, I would certainly consider less expensive alternatives more closely. Let me just say this though: taking our the extra loans to study in the US may not always be a bad idea because the difference in earning potential should make up for that quite easily in the long run. But don't quote me on important financial matters. 3. Your overall GPA is solid. US schools consider science and non-science GPA, so make sure you calculate both. You have a good MCAT score (with BS the only weakness). Check out the Canadian row in the link below: https://www.aamc.org/download/321502/data/2012factstable21.pdf It gives the GPA/MCAT of Canadian students who are actually matriculating into US schools (aka students who have been successful). Your stats are in ballpark. In terms of retaking, I would retake if you think you can significantly improve your score by 2+ points (with a stronger showing on BS). Good luck. I did, actually. I decided not to attend. Sorry, but I cannot be of much help here. I would call AMCAS and ask one of the representatives. I would classify my ECs as pretty good. Whatever I did, I tried to stay in for a long time. Time commitment is key. Just to list some main ones: 1) one summer and one full year of research; currently doing my honors thesis 2) 400+hours shadowing with neurologist, cardiologists, surgeons, anesthesiologists (from what I've heard, this is difficult to do in Canada) 3) International Service Trips on two occasions 4) I have been a TA for 6-7 courses at my school 5) One of the main editors of my school newspaper 6) One of the main editors of my school research journal 7) Volunteer in underserved community, working with children Not exactly ECs, but I also had some awards. One $30,000 scholarship, one $5,000 research award, Phi Beta Kappa-Junior etc. etc. The secondaries can get time-consuming, but it is incredibly important to stay on top of them. I applied on the very first day possible. I started getting secondaries a few weeks after. I made sure I returned the secondaries within 4-5 days max, usually less. Keep track of when you get the secondaries and return them back quickly. A lot of the questions from one school to the next will be similar, so you don't have to write a new essay for each school. Also, the secondaries from previous years are available online. The questions usually do not change. Pre-write some secondaries if you have time so you are not flooded at once. Things definitely get expensive. Look here for some guidelines: https://www.aamc.org/services/first/first_factsheets/94390/cost-applying-med-school.html You have the cost of primary applications. Secondaries usually cost between 60-100 dollars per school. Then there is traveling expenses, hotel expenses etc. (try to stay with student hosts; you will save money this way and get valuable insight from students). By the end, it will certainly cost many thousands of dollars.
  8. Hey all. First of all, I want to say that I am doing this only because I think it may help some of you. It is my very small way of giving back to future applicants because I myself have received advice from others. Being an international applicant to US med schools can be extremely tough, and having no guidance makes it tougher. Keep in mind that I know nothing about being a medical student, but I sure do know quite a bit about the application cycle and being pre-med. A little about me. I completed my HS in Ontario and completed the IB program. I came to the US for my undergrad at a top 20 school (not one of the Ivies). I applied to 28 schools, got 20 interviews, attended 14 of them, accepted at 7, waitlisted at 3, rejected at 3, waiting to hear back from 1. The only canadian school I interviewed at was UofT. I am choosing between Cornell, Yale, Northwestern and some other schools as of now. I applied with a 4.0 GPA/ 37 MCAT (12 PS /11 VR /14 BS), good ECs, very strong letters, average research experience. With that being said, feel free to ask me anything about college, being pre-med, courses, interviewing, expenses, being international etc. etc. Hope this helps!
  9. I've been accepted to Cornell med this year, so thy def. do but it's competitive. Also got interview at NYU and mount Sinai so those as well.
  10. Completely agree. Just look at top US schools. Even at places like Harvard or Wash U, 10% of the students (10-15 students) have less than a ~3.4. They are obviously exceptional in other ways.
  11. Take it for what it's worth. I've interviewed at Harvard this cycle and 5 of the top 10 US school. I got interview invites to U of Toronto and western. Rejected pre interview at Ottawa and queens. 4.0 GPA/ 37 mcat + fairly strong ECs. Canadian citizen (Ontario resident). Ontario schools certainly are tough. However, my letters of recs and such were tailored to US medical schools. Lastly, I will say that the top US schools attract a crowd that is smart yes, but their main strength are their strong ECs. If you are just smart, you will most likely not get into a top US schools.
  12. Idk it's tough to say. I say GPA because students with high GPA and meh mcats do get into med school, but students with low GPA and high mcat tend to have a harder time. At least from what I've seen. But I can agree that after 3.9, GPA tends to not matter.
  13. Don't waste your time with UCSF, UCLA USC etc. They say they accept international students, but they really don't. U. Chicago and Northwestern (midwest schools) accept international students and interview them in decent numbers. Try NE schools and Southern schools like Emory, Duke, Vandy etc.
  14. School prestige for the most part will not matter. BUT I've been interviewing at top US schools this cycle and most of the students are from top schools, but I think that's because those schools have better quality students and not because of school prestige. Most important factor is GPA, then MCAT, then ECs, letters etc.
  15. TIME STAMP: 3:12 pm Interview: March 1 Result: Invite wGPA: 4.0 GPA MCAT: 37 (12/11/14) ECs: significant shadowing, some research, lot of teaching assistant positions, newspaper editor, research journal editor, several scholarships and distinctions. Year: Senior in college Geography: IP Good luck to everyone! To those who didn't get an invite, hang in there!
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