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  1. Here are the stats for Queen’s this year, reposting the same graphs from another thread.
  2. Aetherus

    Will this affect OSAP?

    No
  3. OSAP will give you around 13-16k assuming that your parents income no longer factors into the calculation. Everything over 8k will be given as grants or debt forgiveness. In 3rd year at some schools, you are considered to be a student for the whole year (12months instead of 8months) and therefore you will receive more OSAP (approx 23k). Because it's a longer study period, everything over 10k will be given as grants.
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    Queens Waitlist 2018

    4 years ago, someone got off the waitlist during O-week. Although the chances get progressively slimmer as the summer goes on, until you get the rejection you are still in the running. Remain hopeful but try to move on and assume you didn’t get in. That way you aren’t as shook if things don’t work out.
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    Queens or UofT MAM

    I'm very curious as to why you favour UofT so heavily if you did not complete medical school there. I'm also wondering why you are weighing in on the discussion if you are neither a UofT medical student nor a Queen's medical student. This thread is suppose to be a helpful discussion of the experience of medical students from both institutions in order to help OP make an informed decision. If you would like to share your experience with UofT Medical School and from what perspective you experienced this, maybe we could have a thoughtful discussion that can help OP make a choice.
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    Queens or UofT MAM

    It seems like your argument is that Toronto is a better school because, according to your stats, people accept their offers at a higher rate. I think you are grossly mistaken to infer that desirability equates a better education. There is a multitude of unaccounted factors that could explain the stats you have presented aside from quality of education. The most notable factor would be hometown. It is well known that there is more applicants to medical school from the GTA than anywhere else in Canada. It would therefore make sense that these applicants would prefer to stay at home for medical school. In contrast, very few applicants come from Kingston and therefore not many people have ties to the community. Couple in the fact that a smaller city with a reputation of being WASP, won't be the most desirable locations for people of other ethnic backgrounds. This probably accounts for a large part of the difference in accepting offers. I'm also curious as to how much time you have spent in Kingston in order to judge that there is "nothing" to do. Although Kingston is small, there is more than enough things to do to stay busy throughout medical school. I think your advice would be much better received if you spoke to the strengths of your program without trying to discredit other programs. At the end of the day, if you want to quote stats, you should quote stats that are relevant to a medical student. I fail to understand how the number of people who have accepted or rejected an offer is of any relevance to your education. It appears that you are implying that people off the waitlist are B-list applicants, which is complete non-sense. I have been on selection interview committees multiple times and the difference between applicants who are accepted or high on the waitlist is negligible. If there is any stats that are useful to people deciding on where to do residency, it's how well the school matches through CaRMS. If you would like to supply detailed stats in this regard for UofT, we could gladly discuss relevant stats.
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    Queens or UofT MAM

    I had the same decision to make as OP four years ago. I think one of the things that really makes Queen's medical education amazing is the following. Almost every physician in Kingston is affiliated with Queen's and has been recruited knowing that a large portion of their job will relate to teaching. Furthermore, Queen's is one of the only academic centres that I am aware of that has an exclusive alternative funding plan for all physicians. Essentially every physician in Kingston is salaried and has an explicit expectation that they will teach medical students. This is huge in a few ways, most notably, this means that physicians can take the time out of their day to teach you without hindering their bottom line. This type of model also attracts physicians who are genuinely interested in teaching. This leads to a culture where physicians are willing to allow medical students more liberty in doing tasks and are happy to teach at every occasion. From my experience in the community, it is a numbers game. Many of these centres aim to see as many patients as possible and as quickly as possible. Unfortunately this doesn't lead to the best learning experience for medical students. Another thing that should be mentioned is that Queen's is affiliated with Humber Rive in Toronto and therefore some students do most of their clinical rotations in Toronto if that is something that is important to you.
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    Queen's or UofT Med?

    Here are the complete stats for Queen’s this year in terms of discipline as well as location after first Iteration. To the point made earlier about Toronto having more people gunning for competitive specialties, I disagree. If you look at Queen’s this year, only 23% of the class went into Family Medicine. In contrast 35% of the class matched to a EROADS specialty. If anyone can supply this thread with a similar comparison for UofT this year, it would make this debate more objective. My goal here is not to diminish UofT, I think it is a great school with a lot of advantages. However, often times, these forums end up being very Toronto centric and I hope to demonstrate that other schools are superior to Toronto in certain key aspect of training.
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    Queen's or UofT Med?

    I just wanted to clarify what I stated in my previous post. I did not say that home school advantage does not exist, I stated that it was amplified in smaller schools and diminished in larger schools. Let me explain my reasoning. Toronto has a large multi site clerkship, with adcom members split between multiple sites. This results in a decrease in chance that you will passively make connections with the important people for residency. Furthermore, many applicants from other schools will do research in Toronto during summer and will be able to network and make contacts that are equivalent to UofT med graduates. Queen’s on the other hand is much smaller and you will end up working with the program director for most specialties as you go through clerkship. There aren’t as many applicants doing electives or coming over during summers to do research and therefore you end up with much more connections then the rest of the applicant pool. Of course, many UofT graduates match back to Toronto for residency which might be a product of home school advantage but also the applicants preference. However when you look at the most competitive specialties, the home school advantage at Toronto seems to be much less than other schools. 1/4 Toronto Ophthalmology applicants matched to Toronto, 1/5 ENT applicants and 1/5 Plastics applicants. Many more Toronto applicants (probably close to 12-14) for these 3 specialties went unmatched.
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    Queen's or UofT Med?

    A lot of bias in previous posts. Having made the decision to come to Queen’s over Toronto four years ago, I can say that it was absolutely the right decision to make. Ultimately, the most important academic barometer of a program is how well it will allow you to match to the residency program of your choosing. I have posted the stats for Queen’s in a previous post, you’re welcome to take a look. Queen’s consistently has one of the highest match rates in the country coupled with the highest number of competitive specialty matches. This is not by chance, the Queen’s curriculum is optimized to ensure you have the best chance to succeed and has the best spread of elective time in my opinion. I would also like to address this home school advantage for residency. The smaller the school, the larger the home school advantage. I would say the home school advantage is pretty much non existant at U of T. U of T is a large school and it is easy to fall through the cracks which results in a very high portion of students going unmatched compared to smaller class sizes. Prestige is completely worthless for medical school. It will not help you match to a program of your choice...literally no one cares about your medical school. The only time it could make a difference is if you wanted to go to the states, in which case any Canadian School would be trumped by the top American schools in terms of prestige. If you want to match to the states, the single most important thing will be your Step 1 score, not perceived prestige of your school. With respect to Kingston being too small and boring, this couldn’t be further from the truth. Kingston is completely walkable which means you lose no time on commuting which translates to more time to go out with friends. There’s also a huge selection of restaurants and a bunch of water sports available to you. Kingston is full of students so the night life is also quite good. Having completed my four years at Queen’s, I can absolutely state that you will not regret coming here. PM me if you’re still undecided.
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    How to compare med schools in Canada

    I would echo what has been said stated. Elective time is the most important thing in any curriculum if you are trying to match to a competitive specialty. Certain specialties will only interview you if you've done an elective at their site. This means more elective leads to an increase in number of interviews and ultimately a better chance at matching. Although this is not true of all specialties, I would say that in general going on elective to a school in the program you are hoping to match in will increase your chance dramatically. This might be a little too far in the future but having a residency program at your home school for the specialty you would like to pursue is also another advantage. It's by no means necessary to match, but it can give you a little extra help. Finally, I think the pre clerkship curriculum is also important. I think you want a school that teaches you the foundations properly while leaving some time to relax and have a good quality of life. Clerkship and CaRMS can be draining, you don't need to make the first two years of medical school harder than they need to be. This also allows you to explore specialties, do research and built longitudinal relationships with the preceptors that will ultimately decide your fate.
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    Time commitment of interviews?

    I disagree with most people on this thread. Having interviewed multiple applicants for medical school admissions, I can say that the preparation people speak of is completely blown out of proportion. You can learn all the "mandatory" knowledge you need for interviews within a weekend. Figure out how the Canadian Healthcare System is set up and read the first paragraph of Doing Right and your pretty much set. The rest of it is about self reflection and light practice on delivery of content. I would say light practice for 2-3 weeks would be as much as you need. Your interview performance is mostly about showcasing yourself. As much as this sounds cheesy, but your interview preparation is your life experience.
  13. CaRMS has published the initial match results for 2018 First and Second Iteration: http://www.carms.ca/pdfs/2018-R-1-data-snapshot-EN.pdf
  14. I'm not sure how I feel that these spots will be added for July 2018. I feel like many applicants were required to compromise in the second iteration and ended up in undesirable locations. To then realize that if you had gone unmatched, you would have been able to stay in Ontario and possibly train in your specialty of choice (if you were gunning for ER for example), is kind of a slap in the face. I am happy that the government has decided to act on this, however I feel like the timing is less than ideal for many applicants.
  15. Based on your math... the government would be adding roughly 25 resident positions. Essentially they are just giving us back the residency positions they took away a few years back.
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