SunAndMoon

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  1. SunAndMoon liked a post in a topic by goleafsgochris in My PI Just Gave Me An Ultimatum...I'm Completely Torn   
    Yeah, there is nothing to gain at that lab anymore.  Leave now, seriously.  If he "doesn't think well of you" even somewhat you don't want him writing your letter.  Start at a new lab or not, but don't consider using anyone from that lab as a reference.  Also, put down a post-doc (not him) as your verifier when you write on your application that you worked in his lab.
    I will also note that I think youre being too kind in the above post.  A student leaving his lab for med school is not a good reason to "despise" them lol.  Stuff like this makes me so glad I never went the grad school route.
  2. MEDusa liked a post in a topic by SunAndMoon in MedCoach   
    Yes! Practice with friends who are applying/in med and give each other feedback (with regards to content, structure, communication style).  There is no paid online resource that will give you any real advantage IMO.
    If you go to McGill, I heard CaPS actually organizes mock MMIs which I was told were fairly good. 
  3. SunAndMoon liked a post in a topic by ZBL in My PI Just Gave Me An Ultimatum...I'm Completely Torn   
    As someone who has gone through grad school, and now medicine, some of the comments here are pretty naive. 
    Undergrads are functionally useless to a lab when they start. They eat up resources and time. If they are doing an independent project, they are usually small and not terribly significant. If it is a bigger one part of a research program, then usually it’s something attached to a grad student’s work and that grad student needs to take time away to deal with it. As someone else above mentioned, it is not until you accumulate a reasonable amount of skill and knowledge that you become useful to the research team. So by that token, if you showed up and said “I want to do project X”, then the professor damn well expects you to finish project X. If you leave half way, they have to waste even more time trying to train someone else just to get back to the point where you left the lab, which is incredibly wasteful to the lab in terms of resources, money and time. 
    People seem to think participating in research is some sort of right-of-way to get into med school. It isn’t. You don’t need to do it to get in. People also seem to think it’s a professors primary job to train undergrads. It’s not. It’s to do research and train grad students. They owe you nothing. 
    My advice to to anyone here, before walking into a lab like some hot shot thinking they’re going to get into med school, take a minute and think about whether research is something you actually want to do. If so, and you agree to do a project, then finish it. It’s no different than anything else, be it matching in CaRMS, taking on some leadership position or agreeing to pick someone up from the airport - follow through on the commitments you are making. No one is saying you need to be a researcher for life - but be clear with people up front about what your goals and expectations are. In a research lab, that could be “hey Dr. _____, I’m in my second year of undergrad, and I’m really fascinated by the work that you are doing. My long term goal is to apply to medical school, but I would be very keen to learn more about _____. I was wondering if there might be any possibility to volunteer to provide assistance to any projects that you or your graduate students are working on.” 
    There, you’ve been up front, and rather than taking on something new on your own you just lend a helping hand. Free to leave whenever you want. Very different from agreeing to do some big project on your own and then bailing halfway. 
    So so from my view, if I was the prof (and having done med school and grad school), I’d probably be similar. I doubt he really cares what your final career is whether it’s medicine, research or whatever else, but If I’m giving up time to train you, I’d expect you to give back time to the team as per your commitment. Otherwise I’d see it as a professionalism issue. 
    And actually, UofC highlights exactly that in their MD applications. Grad students are not allowed to apply and leave grad school midway without the explicit written approval by their supervisor to leave, because of the professionalism issue. 
    So in your case, I’d say do what you like - be it apply now or wait a year. If you apply now, I would not ask your prof for a letter.
    Lastly, despite what others here have suggested, no, the prof probably never wanted to do med school and did grad school as their primary interest. Med students/premeds seem to think everyone wants to be like us. I mean, 200K in debt, an extra 9-10 years of training with no income, slave work hours, no autonomy - yeah EVERYONE wants that....
  4. MEDusa liked a post in a topic by SunAndMoon in MedCoach   
    Yes! Practice with friends who are applying/in med and give each other feedback (with regards to content, structure, communication style).  There is no paid online resource that will give you any real advantage IMO.
    If you go to McGill, I heard CaPS actually organizes mock MMIs which I was told were fairly good. 
  5. SunAndMoon liked a post in a topic by adhominem in My PI Just Gave Me An Ultimatum...I'm Completely Torn   
    Wow, talk about someone with a chip on their shoulder. 

    I have to echo other comments from people who seem to be a little more experienced when it comes to research: training undergrads is time consuming and expensive for professors. In many respects, they're doing the undergrad student the favor by allowing them to try and help, not the other way around. It would be far more cost effective for them to hire an experienced tech to do whatever it is the undergrad does for the most part. 

    The prof probably needs to relax, thats for sure. But at the same time I would caution you against going behind his back and getting a letter from another lab member. He would find out and torch you if he decides to be vindictive. Believe it or not, most people do see purposefully omitting details as lying, so you should keep that in mind.
  6. liveyourdream liked a post in a topic by SunAndMoon in MedCoach   
    Where does McGill suggest med coach? Lol 
  7. dreamteam22 liked a post in a topic by SunAndMoon in Verifyers   
    I would get ahead of it and contact admissions to clear that up. 
  8. SunAndMoon liked a post in a topic by Snowmen in Meilleurs professeurs pour les cours pré-requis   
    Tsé quand ça fait 4 mois que t'es en médecine et que tu te la pètes déjà. Félicitations, t'as 10% de ton diplôme ce qui de donne tous les droits. Lol.
    Take a chill pill.
  9. Snowmen liked a post in a topic by SunAndMoon in Meilleurs professeurs pour les cours pré-requis   
    ^ mon gars tu viens de te comparer à MLK et de low-key menacer un kid sur un forum.... déconnecte un peu d'Internet
  10. SunAndMoon liked a post in a topic by calcan in Biased med school admissions?   
     

  11. Lakers9 liked a post in a topic by SunAndMoon in Biased med school admissions?   
    You know your data is BS when your inquiry as to why people want to be doctors includes ONLY the following choices: 
    - be a leader and make money 
    - help and make money 
    - following on the footsteps of mom and dad
    - help even if i had to volunteer 
    Obviously the majority of participants will pick something that will lead you to "conclude" that they "are extrinsically motivated to pursue medicine by status, financial gain, or family tradition". Your survey is ridiculously flawed.
  12. SunAndMoon liked a post in a topic by rmorelan in My PI Just Gave Me An Ultimatum...I'm Completely Torn   
    ha classic academic narrow mindedness. As if UG working in labs are the ones being taken advantage of - all your work/free labour is such a burden on him. Plus the education you receive there is hardly wasted if you get into medical school. 
    Obviously in any case he simply won't provide you a letter of reference for a 3rd year application so you don't have to factor that into anything. 
    I don't like lying or misleading to people but your situation I would be sorely tempted to simply tell him no problem, the odds of getting in 3rd year are small anyway and the research is important to you and your long term academic goals (and boosting your medical school goals). Plus having a degree does help you I feel down the road (not to the point that I wouldn't apply in 3rd year but enough that having it is useful) Assuming you would still have enough time to prepare for the mcat (which sounds like your plan was that anyway) then still write that test (many people applying in the 4th year still write that test in the 2nd year summer anyway - you just did all the courses, and if you don't do well enough you can rewrite - not a lot of negatives really). If you do well then what exactly would be stopping you from applying regardless of his wishes? How exactly would he even know anyway? If this person is the sort to provide ultimatums how sure are you that they will write a suitable LOR or not force you into some other scheme for more work down the road?  In any case staying on in the lab, and getting that publication etc buys you time to figure out ultimately what you want to do. It would also give you leverage - "ok, I am willing to put my goals a bit on ice for you and the lab - I expect support down the line when I do need it when applying as fair is fair".
    People in positions of power are suppose to help you reach your goals not get in the way. Academics are also supposed to teach - that is literally their job. They aren't supposed to be bullies and create high pressure scenarios . 
    Regardless of what you do in the point be clear - he is looking out for his interests ultimately here regardless of the wording used (you cannot take advantage of a lab, he feels you are taking advantage of him or at least not giving him what he wants). You have to do the same. If he can teach you one lesson in the lab outside of the research that would be it  
  13. Lakers9 liked a post in a topic by SunAndMoon in Biased med school admissions?   
    You know your data is BS when your inquiry as to why people want to be doctors includes ONLY the following choices: 
    - be a leader and make money 
    - help and make money 
    - following on the footsteps of mom and dad
    - help even if i had to volunteer 
    Obviously the majority of participants will pick something that will lead you to "conclude" that they "are extrinsically motivated to pursue medicine by status, financial gain, or family tradition". Your survey is ridiculously flawed.
  14. SunAndMoon liked a post in a topic by JohnGrisham in Biased med school admissions?   
    That is a "study"? Yikes, looks like something a university drop out constructed.
  15. Lakers9 liked a post in a topic by SunAndMoon in Biased med school admissions?   
    You know your data is BS when your inquiry as to why people want to be doctors includes ONLY the following choices: 
    - be a leader and make money 
    - help and make money 
    - following on the footsteps of mom and dad
    - help even if i had to volunteer 
    Obviously the majority of participants will pick something that will lead you to "conclude" that they "are extrinsically motivated to pursue medicine by status, financial gain, or family tradition". Your survey is ridiculously flawed.
  16. Lakers9 liked a post in a topic by SunAndMoon in Biased med school admissions?   
    You know your data is BS when your inquiry as to why people want to be doctors includes ONLY the following choices: 
    - be a leader and make money 
    - help and make money 
    - following on the footsteps of mom and dad
    - help even if i had to volunteer 
    Obviously the majority of participants will pick something that will lead you to "conclude" that they "are extrinsically motivated to pursue medicine by status, financial gain, or family tradition". Your survey is ridiculously flawed.
  17. Lakers9 liked a post in a topic by SunAndMoon in Biased med school admissions?   
    You know your data is BS when your inquiry as to why people want to be doctors includes ONLY the following choices: 
    - be a leader and make money 
    - help and make money 
    - following on the footsteps of mom and dad
    - help even if i had to volunteer 
    Obviously the majority of participants will pick something that will lead you to "conclude" that they "are extrinsically motivated to pursue medicine by status, financial gain, or family tradition". Your survey is ridiculously flawed.
  18. SunAndMoon liked a post in a topic by f011235813 in Biased med school admissions?   
    Same CEO as BeMo if you look at it. (Font and site layout are really similar too) Looks like BeMo needed another revenue stream, so they started advertising to the programs themselves to help select.
  19. Lakers9 liked a post in a topic by SunAndMoon in Biased med school admissions?   
    You know your data is BS when your inquiry as to why people want to be doctors includes ONLY the following choices: 
    - be a leader and make money 
    - help and make money 
    - following on the footsteps of mom and dad
    - help even if i had to volunteer 
    Obviously the majority of participants will pick something that will lead you to "conclude" that they "are extrinsically motivated to pursue medicine by status, financial gain, or family tradition". Your survey is ridiculously flawed.
  20. SunAndMoon liked a post in a topic by dreamteam22 in Science Prereq VS Better Grades   
    Thanks a lot !!! 
     
  21. aray623 liked a post in a topic by SunAndMoon in CARS cutoff this year?   
    I'm actually at McGill my friend  Hope Western is going well for you 
  22. dreamteam22 liked a post in a topic by SunAndMoon in Science Prereq VS Better Grades   
    ^ No - if they do a second undergrad in sci (granted that their first one was also in sci) it could take them 2y to complete it entirely.
    OP, focus on ur second ug and retake lowest prereqs in the summer (unless your recommended courses are excellent).
  23. SunAndMoon liked a post in a topic by DrMedMed in Higher R-Score? Less spots?   
    The reason why last year there were less people invited to UdeS and UdeM interview was because ULaval didn't do interviews last year...
    Since it's the same interview that we do for ULaval, UdeM and UdeS in one of these 3 university, and since ULaval didn't do interviews, there were less place for inviting candidates to interviews last year, so UdeM and UdeS invited less people last year, so the minimal R-Score was higher last year...
    And because they changed the way they calculate R-Score for Collegians this year, the R-Score may be high again this year...
  24. SunAndMoon liked a post in a topic by Praise_Kek in Higher R-Score? Less spots?   
    Tu pouvais pas avoir l'air plus incompétent que ça dude
  25. SunAndMoon liked a post in a topic by MEDusa in Did anyone else's Minerva status change?   
    It just looks like a bad translation from the French version of Minerva.