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  1. i'm an OMFS resident, in the middle of my residency, at the moment. - it can be very rewarding to remove a tooth and have the patient be amazed at how painless the entire process was. They quickly become very thankful with the knowledge that they will no longer be in pain. - sedation is a great tool we offer patients, and it really puts patients at ease. patients who would have otherwise been sweating through a procedure and grasping the dental chair with dear life. I don't like complaining because I mostly like what I do but.... - I get irked by patients who say they were never told that a tooth needed a RCT, and present 3 years later with an abscess or a broken down, non-restorable tooth. - I get frustrated by patients who feel like they know what treatment they need and don't keep an open mind. Sometimes people will come in saying the need a tooth taken out - when in reality they may only need a filling. These patients think that "fillings don't work" because all of his/her fillings have fallen out, or have had recurrent decay. - it bothers me sometimes that people go years without getting cleanings or seeing a dentist, sometimes decades, and then they come with their teeth in shambles, expecting a denture the same day we take out all their teeth. - it is very frustrating when we bend over backwards for patients, sometimes give free treatment, and do so much legwork to make sure a procedure is ready to go to the OR, and then for the patient not to show on the day of surgery and ask to be scheduled for next week for a silly reason. In NY we have a program where patients with HIV/AIDS get ideal dental treatment. We often do full mouth rehabilitation with 8+ implants, and these patients are notorious for not showing up, or cancelling at the last minute. I guess when you are given something free - you are less likely to value it? Besides, they know they can get it free next week anyways?
  2. Hi again! Nope - less than halfway through! 2.5 years down, and 3.5 more years to go! Also - may I recommend an app called 1Password? Stores all your passwords, and creates randomly generated passwords for you too. You have access to your passwords at different sites through 1 main password to log in to the app. It is free on your computer, and if you pay $20 or so, you can get it to sync your passwords to your phone. It is also now finger print technology-enabled on the iPhone 6. Saves me so much hardship! Contach
  3. I have a problem. I am a heavy sleeper, and at the end of a long day's work, I won't wake up to my pager if it beeps within the first few hours of my sleep. My pager will beep like 8 times then just turn off.. This is not nearly long enough. Has anyone had this problem and have suggestions on what to do? - No I'm not sleeping in bed with my pager for fear of it falling off the bed or getting hid under the covers/pillow and become muffled. - I've tried getting it forwarded to my cellphone, but it only works sometimes (ie. if the operator pages me). - I've keeping it on a chair next to my bed, but this has failed. Thanks, Contach
  4. Huh? Both professions are needed and the skills are useful. You learn a lot of shit in medical school that is sort of useless. What you really need when your practicing is what you learned in residency. Is that what you are getting at? I don't see how this is relevant though. No, i don't feel like i should have gone to medical school. OMFS is great. If you don't know what you want to do, go to medical school and hope you find something you love, or you can be like a bunch of my medschool classmates, who, when they needed to pick in 3rd year... went for the discipline that they hated least. Strange way to look at it, isnt it? I know nothing about you, and can't make this decision for you. Seems like the sane thing would have been to decide before you applied...
  5. ENT is a great specialty and shares many similarities with OMFS, but in my opinion getting in to ENT is harder than getting in to OMFS (atleast in the USA). In light of residency admissions being far from guarantees... it would be prudent to think about your ability to eventually match... In the USA, admissions to both these specialties are based heavily on your academic prowess: how well you do on MCQ tests. And I feel like if I went to an American medical school I wouldn't be in the top 10-15% of my class to be competitive for ENT, however, I did feel like I was near the top of my dental school class, and thus was able to match into OMFS. Of course subjective, and it is difficult to compare, my thoughts about this are based on the 2.5 years in medical school in a middle-tier american Medical school, and my experience with my medical school classmates. I think in Canadian applications to medical specialties like ENT, admissions favours connections, research, and your experience in the field, less than your academic success (b/c most/all med schools are pass/fail?) < correct me if I'm wrong>
  6. Ok, but there is no way to know if you will be good. And if you make the argument that a very talented person will be very successful in dentistry... well, they would probably be equally as successful in another profession... If that profession was an easier once, that talented person, I would think, would be relatively more successful in this new profession, as compared to dentistry... So I think it is worth comparing professions. Not everyone can be successful, unfortunately. One again... not everyone can be the cream of the crop, even if every individual thinks they are... that is just not enough...
  7. Congrats on being accepted! Being an "in-province" applicant increases your chances at both dental schools. I was BC born, and attended grades 1-12 in BC, then went to an Ontario university for 4 years. When I was applying to dental schools I was considered "in-province" for both Ontario schools, AND UBC (because I had done highschool there). The schools define what they consider "In-Province" differently. I think this helps a lot. So, below, I've done the hard work for you. http://www.dentistry.ualberta.ca/en/ProgramsAdmissions/Dentistry/DDSOverview.aspx - this means that if you go to U of Alberta, and live there, you'll be considered "In-Province" when you apply. "For admission purposes, a resident of Alberta is defined as a Canadian citizen or Permanent Resident (Landed Immigrant) who has been continuously resident in the Province of Alberta, Yukon, the Northwest Territories, or Nunavut for at least one year immediately prior to the first day of classes of the term in which admission is sought. Because residency status determines the competitive pool in which an applicant is ranked, applicants may be required to present proof of residency status. Please visit section 13.2 Residence Requirements of the University of Alberta calendar for more information." http://tst-dentistry.sites.olt.ubc.ca/files/2014/09/BC-ResidencyRequirements-DMD.pdf - ( says that since you've completed highshool in BC, even if you move away for a few years, you'll still be considered a BC resident per UBC dental admission requirements. "A BC resident is defined as a Canadian citizen or landed immigrant who: a) Has lived continuously in BC for twenty-four (24) full months immediately prior to the application deadline; OR Has attended secondary school (grades 8 to 12 inclusive) in British Columbia, or attended for a minimum of three (3) years and had a permanent home in BC; OR c) Has attended a university in BC within the last five (5) years for at least two (2) years; OR d) Was born in BC and attended a minimum of five (5) years of school in BC. The applicant must have resided in BC for at least one continuous year in the last ten (10) unless the applicant has been living and working overseas on a work visa, or with the Armed Forces, having been a resident in BC prior to entering the Armed Forces; OR e) Has attended residential secondary school (grades 8 to 12 inclusive) in BC, even if permanent home is in another province; or has been a resident in BC for five (5) years at any time for any reason and has resided in BC continuously for at least one year in the last ten (10); OR f) Is a resident under the same terms from the Yukon, Nunavut or Northwest Territories. " Basically, if you go to U of Alberta, then apply to Dental Schools, you'll be "In-Province" to schools in two provinces, significantly increasing your chances of acceptance, in my opinion. It sounds reasonable to me that you can probably get a better GPA at UofA than at UBC (I've heard horror stories about General Science programs at UofT and UBC - and I'd stay clear as a prospective pre-health professional). Now you have to listen to me on my soapbox: It is an utter shame that professional school admissions make students think about such trivial matters like this. Motivated students, with the world in front of them resort to thinking about technicalities, and how best to game the system to get into their desired profession. I'm not judging - I did the same when I was in your shoes. We pick the easier classes, we limit our classes not to what we want to learn about, and what will make us well-rounded students, but instead what will get us the best GPA. I plead to you, and others reading this, to try and strike a balance that you are happy with. It is important to have goals, and do things to reach those goals, but having a life, enjoying your time is very important as well. So, even though you may be increasing your chances by going to Alberta, also look at the school's non-academic (extra-curricular) merits. I think most larger (non-commuter schools) in Canada do a good job by putting in tremendous amounts of effort and money, towards providing nurturing communities and enhancing student life. To the poster that commented on "dEaDMONTON" - I've only been to Edmonton once, and yea it seems super boring, but really, I don't think you need a fun city to have a good time in College. I was in Hamilton, Ontario for University, which is a blue collar city that doesn't have a lot of 'fun' stuff going on. Campus life is very important, and I urge you to look in to what kinds of opportunities the school has for extracurricular activities, the student body, sports, etc. Wherever you go, if you are open to meeting people and new experiences, you'll make friends and you'll have a good time - don't worry about that. But make sure you have a positive attitude and don't be close-minded. These are going to be the best years of your life, don't squander them. House parties, intramural sports, road trips - were among my funnest memories. You don't need fancy clubs, or expensive restaurants to do these things.
  8. It's a touch choice... probably impossibly difficult to make a well-informed one as an undergrad, but you should atleast try. Don't feel bad, or think that you made a mistake. It's impossible to know something like this. But for the rest of you - if you know you want to do OMFS, and you are in undergrad, I think you should be strongly considering medical school and give it fair consideration. If you don't, then you shouldn't be considering OMFS. Lots of similarities between OMFS and ENT, and you the most important reason you should be considering medicine is because there are more careers in medicine that offer similar things to ENT - as compared to careers in the dental field that are similar to OMFS. So if things don't pan out with ENT, then you have some quality back-ups. Other reasons why you should be considering medical school: 1) dental schools are more expensive than medical schools 2) dental school curriculums are less progressive than medical curriculums. Things like attendance, use of electronic resources, evaluation methods (P/F vs grading), testing methods all have a significant impact on your happiness during school, and I think medical schools do a better job of making their students happy. 3) there are more career options available as an MD than a DMD/DDS - public health, insurance, health care administration, etc. Life doesn't always go the way you plan.... and you are naive to think you have full control over your life. With that being said, a lot of my classmates knew they wanted to do OMFS before they started dental school. Most of them are now in OMFS residencies, but some are not....
  9. Hello. I did zero research at my dental school. I did do a lot of extracurriculars, leadership, and volunteering, but I don't think any of that helped *directly* with my application to OMFS. I did externships at 4 different programs in the US (they varied from 1-2 weeks in length). I did not complete a GPR. I finished dental school in May 2013, and started at a 6 year program in July 2013. How do I think the OMFS programs in US compare to those in Canada? I actually do not know much about programs in Canada. The one thing I do know is that they like to see work experience (GPRs, or private practice, or internships). Programs in the USA sometimes frown on work experience, and often take people straight from dental school. An OMFS internship looks much, much, much more favorable than any 1 year of working in private practice or 1 year at a GPR. But I will tell you that programs within the US vary drastically: from great to horrendous. So it wouldn't be fair to lump them all in to the same category. Also, everyone is looking for something different in a program. I will also tell you that there are MANY Canadians, both from Canadian Dental schools and American Dental schools in OMFS training programs in the USA. This is probably because there are only 4 OMFS programs in Canada? With each program only having 1-2 residents/year, what is that, like 6 graduates a year? the USA graduates ~ 280 OMFS per year.
  10. Hrm... I have a feeling that the 4 year OMFS programs won't care if you don't have a Bachelor's degree. But 6-year programs where you also have to concurrently apply to their medical school, will be hit or miss. Some will require you to have an undergrad degree, and some won't. I know that my 6-year program will require you to have an undergrad degree because they treat applicants to the OMFS program almost like any other medical student applicant - requiring a competitive GPA, ECs, an interview with the medical school interview panel, etc. But don't take my word for it - e-mail residency program coordinators of programs you may be interested before you take the leap. Also, if you are thinking about doing OMFS, and you have yet to complete undergrad, I urge you to shadow an ENT. Similar types of procedures (lots of short, outpatient procedures on healthy patients), good breadth of procedures (probably more than OMFS), same area of the body, and you won't have to go through the bullshit of dental school.
  11. This is a complicated question, and maybe some of you don't understand the true breadth of OMFS to appreciate how this could happen and how a resident wouldn't be bothered by it. There are the bread and butter procedures which 99% of all residents will learn and be fully competent in pulling wisdom teeth, placing bone grafts, placing implants. Knowing these three things alone, you can lead a very comfortable life. The vast majority of residents (dare I say 95%) will also come out of programs very comfortable in managing facial trauma, and performing orthognathic surgery. Many, but probably a lot fewer than 95% of practicing OMFS, will do these procedures (orthognathics and facial trauma) on a regular basis. Fewer programs will do head and neck cancer, facial cosmetics, cleft lip/palate, and even fewer residents will come out of programs comfortable doing such procedures. Likely less than 50% of OMFS will do such procedures on a regular basis. But it is likely that these OMFS are okay with this - maybe they don't want to do them, maybe they are happy doing what they know how to do, maybe there isn't a demand in the community for these procedures to be done. So just because they don't do these procedures, which are within the breadth of OMFS' scope, doesn't mean they have to go out and find a way to learn how to do them. They are content just not doing them. If someone does want to do head and neck cancer for example, you can do a (I think it is 2 years) of fellowship training in head and neck oncology. And all other fellowships are 1 year long: facial plastics, craniofacial, orthognathics, microvascular?, etc Then of course, you are right, there are CE courses to learn how to do smaller things. For example, learning how to harvest rib bone to graft it into the jaw may be appropriate for a CE course, or learning how to place TADs (Temporary Anchoring Devices) to help an orthodontist realign teeth.
  12. The general consensus is no, a dual-degree trained OMFS (dental license and MD) is not inherently entitled to have a wider scope than a single-degree OMFS. More important to one's scope of practice is what types of procedures he/she learned during their residency program, and their comfort level with said procedures. Some 4-year programs do cosmetics, most don't, and same is true for 6-year programs (some do, most don't). There is an argument (that I would tend to side with), that if you want to do a fellowship, an MD (6-year track) will help you be more competitive. Remember that some of the OMFS fellowships are shared with ENT. Most of the fellowship-trained OMFS i know do have an MD.
  13. Hi - great point. At the moment you can't practice/bill under the MD in Canada. However, you CAN advertise that you have an MD. It's not an ideal situation, but I've heard some rumors that they are trying to change this. For dentoalveolar, you wouldn't be billing anything under an MD license anyways. So, I guess you are looking at trauma.. but I know Canadian OMFS do trauma... so I imagine that they are billing for it under their dental license....
  14. I second what is written above. I think there is an area in AADSAS for "special circumstances" - I think this is to explain poor grades or a year where you did poorly because of a real issue. Being lazy is not a real issue. Even still, focus on how you changed, and make sure you convince them that you've learned from that experience.
  15. 1st year chem is all over the DAT. Nothing replaces hard work, and so far it looks like you haven't put any work into the DAT.
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