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  1. I haven't done any practice tests because there are so few that I don't want to waste them. But I think I might just go ahead because it could be really helpful.
  2. This past summer I took a prep course and studied 3 months full time for the mcat but ended up not being able to write to due to health issues. This winter I should have about 20 hours a week, maybe more, to devote to it. I haven't ever taken physics, o chem, or gen chem, but have familiarized myself with these subjects quite a bit when studying last summer. Given my situation, how long do you think it will take me to study enough to get a good score?
  3. I think it depends on the school. Some Canadian med schools do look at community college courses.
  4. First, are you IP? If you are don't rewrite, it's not what's holding you back. Between your good MCAT, great AGPA, rural and pub coefficients, you have no reason to try to make your pre-interview application better. You will apply again this year and get an interview. What you need to do is work on your interview skills. If you can prepare more this time you are probably going to get in. If you are OOP, give another shot. 31 isn't particularly competitive for OOP.
  5. I think this is a pretty good idea. However, I've already done 2 degrees and am quite familiar with student style poverty. Bottom line: it sucks lol. The numbers in my situation aren't really appalling, but in the long run GP vs NP come pretty close. So, I've reconciled the financial situation of GP vs NP as so similar it's negligible in the decision making process. So it basically comes down to this: is the time/stress of medical school worth the additional scope of practice I would obtain as a GP? I can really appreciate what TracyK is saying with regards to not being happy with anything other than medicine. And if my only other career opportunity was RNing then I think I would absolutely throw caution to the wind and go all out for med. However, since I have the opportunity to do my NP with substantially less difficulty, I can actually get pretty damn close to what I would be doing if I had done med. So I'm in a situation where it's not all or nothing, like I'm seeing with the lawyers and engineers on here. Law and engineering are so incredibly different than medicine whereas GP practice and NP practice overlap a lot. I wouldn't be giving up on everything medical with my NP, I would be giving up the ability to take care of more complex patients. All rational thought tells me to do my NP. But as soon as I commit myself to it, all of a sudden I'm hanging out with one of my GP friends and they are telling me about how even though med is hard and incredibly stressful, it's worth every minute of it. Even the ones who told me to "run, get out while you still can!" when I told them I wanted to go to med still tell me it's worth it, and that they were really only joking when they told me not to do it. Ugh. I so seriously miss being 19 when the most difficult decision I had to make was which bar to go to on friday night :/
  6. I disagree with everyone. If you have a solid background in general chemistry, you don't need to take organic chemistry. What you need so a book (or PDF) called Organic Chemistry as a Second Language (I & II). It dumbs organic chemistry down so hardcore that even I could understand it. This subject is only worth 5% of the exam, and I've heard from some people who have written the new MCAT that there is only a few questions on it. It's not worth it to spend the time doing a whole course on it and possibly risking your GPA.
  7. It really is. If I wanted to so anything other than primary care, I think med would be winning at the moment. But the time, financial, and stress cost of going to medical school is really starting to push me towards the NP route.
  8. These numbers are pretty good, except that I'm already 32, and I'm eligible to retire at 54, and the opportunity cost I'm lost income for going to medical school would be 80k x 4 years = 320k. Plus 40k in tuition as opposed to 16k for the NP.As well, for my day to day income, I need to consider that if I wanted a months paid vacation, I would have to decrease my income to save in order to pay myself for the time off work. There is also sick time, so I would have to either take from my net income savings for an emergency fund or some type of disability insurance. Another thing to consider is that GPs work more than 40h a week. NPs (in the context which we are discussing) only work 40h a week. If as an NP I wanted to pick up weekend or evening shifts above and beyond my regular M-F work, I could make much more money and be significantly closer to a GP income. The calculations I did were from a slightly different perspective than yours, but I think reached the same conclusion. In the grand scheme of things, the financial benefit of doing my MD instead of my NP is not particularly significant. But then, there is the scope and the opportunity to work in a medical model instead of a nursing model. This to me is huge, and much more difficult to calculate. The NP route is faster and easier, but I think overall would be less rewarding. The MD route is long, and from what I have heard from many medical students, very painful. This is going to take more time and thought.
  9. Where I work, NPs have an excellent scope and function very similarly to GPs. That's something that attracts me to the NP route. But at my age and circumstances, I couldn't possibly justify going to medical school after completing my NP. And no, I'm not interested in doing something specialized at all. NP or MD, I want to be in primary care. So at the end of this post, it appears as if I'm leaning towards NP. But at the end of the next I might be leaning towards MD. So indecisive lol
  10. You are right, NP is significantly different than physician. The scope difference is huge, which is why I'm so interested in going all the way with med school. The NP course isn't full time. I could do it part time over 2 years. The theory courses are online, and the 6 months of clinical would be done on unpaid educational leave. I wouldn't accrue pension, seniority, or sick time during my leave, but I would still be a permanent employee so I wouldn't lose it either.
  11. I know it's good I'm thinking about these things, but obsessing about them the way I am can't be good lol. It actually boils down to NP vs MD. I can do my NP without giving up anything except 20k of tution and 6 months of pay because I need to take unpaid leave to do my clinicals (which overall is peanuts considering what I would have to give up for med). Could you possibly send me a template of that spreadsheet? I'd like to see what my own numbers look like on there.
  12. If i stayed in my position yes, it would very much pay off. But something else I have the opportunity to do is my NP. It's significantly faster and less expensive than med school. I would keep all my pension, sick time, vacation increase increments, and seniority. As well I would start off about 112k (not including the aforementioned sick time, vacation, and pension). But in the end, it's still not medicine.
  13. Im seeing a bunch of highly educated professionals in here who are looking to give it all up to go to medical school. I am also an educated professional with an earning capacity of 80k+, full pension, benefits, sick time and paid vacation. Does anyone here worry about the opportunity cost of going into med? I'm eligible for a lucrative, union negotiated, government pension at the age of 54 and if I go into med there will be none of that for sure. But having said all that, I'm nowhere near as passionate about what I do as I am for medicine. I truly love it, but like a marriage, it takes more than love to make something work. I'm really weighing the pros and cons here of going into med, and I'm so torn. Anyone have any advice?
  14. For those who have written the MCAT (especially the new one), about how many of the questions in the PS section required calculations? I'm doing pretty good with my bio, biochem, orgo,VR and psych/soch but am really struggling with physicis and chem calculations. I'm slowly getting the hang of them, but i don't think I'm going to be able to get all of them by time I write in August. Any info/advice?
  15. I did my LPN-BN through Athabasca and you could probably do it in 2 years if you put your mind to it. It is however expensive as hell and you would need to do 3 clinicals in Calgary or Edmonton. But it is an online degree and some schools don't like that (I have to use by BA as my qualifying degree at the U of M even though it's a 3 year general and my BN is a 4 year honours but it's online).Then you need to do your prereqs on top of that. I never ever ever recommend doing a nursing degree if you want to be a physician. It's a terrible undergrad. It's super stressful and a really good GPA is hard to get with all the subjectivity in marking assignments (I got a 4.0 in my LPN but only a 3.3 in my BN). As well it can mess up full time status with the P/F clinicals. You would be so much better off finding a school that wouls transfer some of your LPN credits and doing a general science degree. Do your electives in things you like to get good grades and pick a stream that allows you to get your prereqs in easily. Avoid international medical education at all costs. It's expensive as hell and an be very difficult to get back to Canada if that's what you want. Also having a child in medical school requires a lot of support (as I'm am sure you have found in nursing school). I'm sure going to New Zeland or Ireland sounds glamourous, but being out there all alone at a very stressful time would be very difficult. I think the U of M is the only school that accepts college grades (thank god because college is where I got most of my As which are going to allow me to apply).
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