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  1. I've actually declined a med school offer in favour of certainty, in light of a pressing financial need. It may have been the best decision I've ever made (though really, I'll always wonder about what could have been), despite having pursued medicine for a very long time. In essence, what convinced me was, "if you're having these feelings now, imagine how you'll feel when you're in the midst of everything." Feel free to PM me if you'd like to chat privately.
  2. Ask someone unfamiliar withh the activity to read it and see if they can interpret what it means. If abbreviating does not disrupt the readability of the sketch item, then by all means. But if it might, don't take the risk.
  3. You may note that now someone who did interview, but wouldn't normally be accepted, has a chance (even if it's at another school). However, you must realize that applying has a very large opportunity cost (both financially and for its time investment), and so I wouldn't have done it if I was simply thinking of declining my offer. Naturally, things changed in a few short months, and I'm now looking at a really cool job offer that I don't want to pass up. I would quite literally be at the top of my career track roughly when entering residency, and so the opportunity cost is far too great now. I don't want to mislead you either - medicine is still my dream job and I'm thankful that my acceptance stands as a testament to the fact that someone in my life situation could make it big. Unfortunately however, it's a case of "too little too late," and ultimately, medicine's become too much of a high stakes game for me.
  4. I just declined my offer from UofT, so that will hopefully help someone out. Good luck!
  5. Just wanted to share that despite being my only acceptance, I will be declining the offer to work in industry. Good luck everyone!
  6. Accepted (to St George Campus), 3rd time applying Time Stamp: 9:22 AM wGPA: 3.9 (not sure if eligible, otherwise 3.6) MCAT: 33 (12/10/11) ECs/ Essays: Ironically, I spent a lot less time than in previous cycles, but I did feel I struck a good balance this time around. Interview: Seemed to go well, though it was my only one so I'm not sure. Year: Completed 2 bachelors and 2 masters. I likely got in because of productivity/the graduate application, and possibly the essays...my stats are really quite poor otherwise. UofT was my first choice, but I will be declining the offer.
  7. It's because people lack financial literacy. We're up to nearly 2 dollars borrowed for every dollar earned in Canada...and sadly, just because someone gets into a professional school does not make them exempt from the general statistic.
  8. This. Don't consolidate your loans while OSAP is not in its repayment phase yet - I've seen so many people make this mistake, it's not even funny.Three friends of mine have gone to med/dent/law and thrown their OSAP onto their LoC and had to immediately pay interest on it (even if it was prime and better, if you have interest free status, take advantage). Then consolidate your loans to the lowest interest rate, and pay off the highest interest rate loans first (a general rule in life).
  9. Are you eligible to apply to McMaster Health Sciences? (You cannot apply as a mature applicant): http://fhs.mcmaster.ca/bhsc/admissions_level_1.html
  10. As for grammar, the ability to pick up on independent/dependent clauses is quite helpful. Beyond this, it's kind of impractical as you won't be doing any writing - the grammar will already be there, and it's not your responsibility to understand/critique it. Whenever I wanted to highlight something, I found it helpful to highlight the independent clause(s) only. Given I can do this naturally and with almost no thought, it wasn't a big time sink, however it was advantageous as it allowed me to create succinct "bookmarks" for myself, as opposed to massive walls of text.
  11. Yes it does. Well, technically it stands given the assumption that CSAs are statistically more wealthy than CMGs...which I'm not entirely sure I'm willing to contend. But regardless, that was my humble contribution to the discussion. EDIT - changed IMG to CSA as it's more precise.
  12. Hi Med_Sep. You've got a difficult situation for sure, not impossible, but you may have to sacrifice a bit of time. The majority of schools in Canada have a citizenship requirement that would place you last on the hierarchy in one way or another. Getting PR will help, but it depends on your province of residence. Which province are you settling down in, and when do you anticipate getting PR? (Where in your journey will you be when that happens?) Unfortunately with your cGPA and 2yGPA, I don't see any schools taking more than a passing glance at you, even if you got a stellar MCAT score. Western is the closest bet if you scored exceptionally high on the MCAT, they require two years of 3.7+ to pass their cutoff so you'd have to take a minimum of one year of courses, score over 3.7, and even then you have to do extremely well on the MCAT (which is what filters most applicants out of Western). Regarding a masters, even though I agree completely with Ghoststalker154 about learning knowledge and putting it into practice, it doesn't matter how brilliant/experienced/special your experiences are as an applicant if the admissions committees don't look at you because they think your grades are too low. University of Toronto might take extenuating circumstances for your GPA into account if you hold a masters, but I think their minimum for consideration is a 3.0 cGPA for graduate students to put it in perspective. Their average accepted GPA is in the 3.9's. If I were in your situation the choice would be working as an engineer, or going back for that 4 year bachelors in Health Sciences. If you're confident you can get in to Health Sci, in 3 years you can apply without a completed degree to most schools (in fact since you hold degrees already, I believe you can start applying in as little as two years to Queens/Western where you might have a reasonable shot given a good GPA in those two years), and your chances will be astronomically greater than they are right now. Don't be afraid of being 30, or even 40 - you can either dedicate yourself to applying 10 times, or spend 4 years bettering yourself, and spend 6 subsequent years applying. Good luck!
  13. Just noticed this post, pardon the two week late reply. While I appreciate the sentiment (I interpret your response as a ton of moral support), please understand that I harbor no resentment to those who got accepted and in my humble opinion, no one should. If anything I'm frustrated with the system, both for med school applications, and also social supports for basic life needs (ie. disability funding). I have utmost faith in one thing - the system selects amazing people (even if not all of them, sadly). If I had a chance to get to know you (and anyone else really) I'm sure I'd be proud of your accomplishments and efforts to get accepted and in awe of the hard work you put in. So if I have faith in you, you definitely should! There's no reason you should doubt yourself even in the slightest.
  14. Assuming that's true (I personally know of two people studying medicine abroad, one upper middle and one lower middle class), I think this would increase the socioeconomic disparity between the upper and middle class. That's what this is really, the privileged middle feeling underprivileged/disadvantaged for one of the first times in their lives. Meanwhile, when we say socioeconomic disparity we talk about the entire spectrum of incomes. "This is bad because it affects those who can't afford it. Think of the poor!" And yet, those who are actually under-represented in medicine (the ones who truly have zero chance at procuring a $300K loan) aren't really bothered by the particulars of this because they're well aware of said socio-economic divide. Namely, whether a CMG or IMG gets that coveted residency spot/full time job, it's still someone more privileged than the lower class (statistically, and given the above assumption, I know it's not a hard and fast rule in either case).
  15. Statistically speaking, people who get into Canadian Med Schools belong to well off families as well. It's easier to focus on maintaining a stellar GPA and acing your MCAT when you have courses and tutors at your disposal because money is no option. For this reason, many people who get in everywhere are from well off families and even our system can hardly be called fair. Also you speak of foreign educated doctors as some drain on our financial system. In fact, the government pays a lot of money to train Canadians which students who study abroad pay for themselves. The rest, such as a GP's annual income, whether being paid to a foreign GP (who has become accredited, hence displays the appropriate competencies) or a local GP, makes no financial difference.
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