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  1. I am hopeful for a lower cars cutoff. As I went through the pdf that Western has attached for this part of the application, it seems that they are VERY clear on what they are looking for. I do admit that there are some translucent elements in their description of the values but how they want you to write is much more concretely explained than UofT.
  2. I disagree with you on this. In the new application that Western has put out, they have a section similar to UofT in which they give you the opportunity to mention any relevant obstacles in your career in medicine and any gaps in your transcript. This would undermine your point about their holisticness being a front for making it easier for rich kids to get in. I also think that even those who are not rich and cannot afford to volunteer (which I have found out this year, is truly a privilege and not a norm) can still get in. I have seen several personal examples in my own life of students that worked multiple jobs and could only afford to do 1-2 extracurriculars while balancing home and family life get into medical school. I do agree that there is a certain barrier to entry (such that not even the poorest vagrant can get in) but it is certainly getting better, not worse like you're implying.
  3. I don't think the majority of pre-meds should care too much about this change aside from two interesting developments that come up. 1) Potentially a lower CARS cutoff 2) The extra work needed to be done. Any self-respecting pre-med knows that you need to have a diverse set of extracurricular experiences not just for med school but for yourself as a person. They are great opportunities in and of themselves aside from check marks on your pre-med resume. I would not be happy if 20-22 year olds forewent their entire undergrad without doing any ECs and expected to get in entirely based off grades and an interview.
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    2017 Application cycle stats

    IDC we are burning him to the stake regardless of his explanation. That is what makes an authentic witch hunt.
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    2017 Application cycle stats

    Didn't the Jeff guy on the forum get in with a 3.61 GPA to UofT? Theyre saying here the lowest accepted GPA was 3.66. Does this mean he was lying?
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    Lower GPA acceptances?

    You don't need to to hit the average. That is the entire point that I am trying to make. The UofT Average accepted GPAs are fake news. They give absolutely 0 indication of where the cutoff GPA is.
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    Lower GPA acceptances?

    I have to disagree. It is because of our skewed demographic that we are able to determine the GPA cutoff, roughly speaking. Our demographic is more likely to have individuals with excellent ECs due to the nature of students here being more keen than the average premed. They know the kinds of ECs that will get them in and thus they are more likely to have a diverse and impactful set of them. All it takes are a few students with excellent ECs and a subpar GPA to give us a glimpse of the cutoff. I can say this because they need their GPA to meet the cutoff in order to get the file review. I am also assuming that their ECs are diverse and impactful enough (I judge them based on what they say on the invites thread) to determine if they would've gotten an interview. If you see an invite post with a guy that has a 3.85 but excellent ECs resulting in an invite, you can tell that the cutoff is around that area. Once again, it is our kind of demographic that allows for any sort of analysis to be done. This cycle, I came to the conclusion that the cutoff was around 3.89 to 3.9. Is it accurate? not really. Is it better than speculation and intuition? Absolutely. As long as its grounded in some form of quantitative data and healthy-ish assumptions, its as good as we're going to get. Also you can figure out exactly what the invite to offer numbers are. Its 599 invites with 324 offers of acceptance and the class size rounds arounds to 260. The ASsociation of Faculty of Medicine Canada has these numbers. Idk what harvards cutoff is or how they run things but UofT runs a different ship. All med schools in Canada do. Infact, they pride themselves on it in their admissions videos and their websites. Cannot make these assumptions unless its really 1 to 1.
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    Lower GPA acceptances?

    You don't know if that user wrote an Academics Explanation Essay. Those things have the potential to get 3.6 GPA students in. I know of another person with a similarly low GPA that got into UofT as well. He showed me his OMSAS gpa and did not qualify for the weight scale either. I attached the e-mail from the registrar onto this post for confirmation of what I'm saying.
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    Lower GPA acceptances?

    Yea you should be fine.
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    Lower GPA acceptances?

    @_gettingthere_ I watched that video and I e-mailed the registrar of UofT. UofT GPA is assessed competitively at a cutoff. It is not ranked. They have a competitive cutoff each year and once you meet that cutoff, GPA doesn't matter. I am 100% sure on this. I worked with another user to get a grasp of the competitive cutoff last year and it was around 3.88 to 3.89. Years don't fluctuate that much, statistically it would be very unlikely. Im sure youve watched the video but to sum it up: GPA cutoff screening --> MCAT cutoff screening --> ABS/Essays scored out of 20 and they rank that to give out 600 invites. This is assuming your application is complete. Also, @medicineballislife, your chances are up in the air like everyone else and that is worth applying for. They judge your circumstances however they wish. The lady at the admins office told me that if you write an AEE, thats the first thing they look at before even looking at your GPA and then they decide what to do with your GPA. They are considerate but they also uphold personal responsibility.
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    Lower GPA acceptances?

    This guy named Jeff got in with a 3.61. He had a consulting company write his essays mainly. Not sure if hes a troll. I know of one individual a couple of years ago that messed up his 1st and 2nd year pretty badly. His 3rd year went very well but it was obviously not going to compensate enough for him to maintain a competitive GPA. He got in. I think he wrote an Academic Explanations Essay though. I am also in your shoes but I have some pretty extenuating circumstances regarding my GPA but at the same time I don't reject any personal responsibility for my performance. I have looked into the process at quite a bit of depth so I can tell you what your chances are with or without the essay. If you aren't writing the AEE then you need at absolute minimum a 3.88 to 3.9 GPA to be competitive. They use GPA as a cutoff but that cutoff is something they won't tell you. That number comes from the trends I've seen in previous cycles and mainly intuition so take it with a grain of salt. I however think its a fairly accurate number based on the high GPA averages that UofT typically yields in. After the cutoff, it goes to your ABS and Essay review and then you are given an interview based on that score.
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    For Them Waitlisters

    https://ibb.co/hgru5v If you look at last year's cycle, they interviewed 552 people. Out of those 552 people, they gave out 336 offers. That is about 61% of the cohort that was interviewed. So essentially, 61% of the cohort (people who got an immediate offer + waitlisted people who got an offer) will get something. Based on what I've seen from other medical schools in Ontario in this particular statistical category, McMaster offers the highest percentage of offers relative to their interview cohort size. If you didn't completely bomb your interview and were in the 60th percentile for your interview, then you're likely to get an offer. Now the issue is that nobody knows how they did except for McMaster themselves so that should really be the only anxiety riddling thing about this whole process.
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    Percentiles Updated As Of May 1

    Would this affect cutoffs and MCAT expectations for the next cycle?
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    Uoft's Free Mcat Course

    I can answer some questions about this prep course. I got accepted into it a few days ago. So this program is open to everyone. PhD students, Masters students, graduated students and undergraduates. There is no selection for a particular cohort though they may have quotas. Not sure. My cGPA wasn't spectacularly high. It's below 3.9 so I don't think they emphasize the GPA aspect of it a lot. I think what got me in though was my personal statement. The personal statement is there for you to talk about your interest in medicine, the program and any other things they should be aware of in 250 words. I think my response really made up for the fact that I didn't have an excellent GPA. Also, there may not have been a competitive cohort applying. I did struggle in my first and second years in undergrad so the fact that I got in must mean that they are considerate of my GPA. A lot of it is self-prep. Prep companies provide you with their books and tools to get ready but here (or from my understanding of it) it is you bringing questions to the group or material to the group. Prep is done through suggestions between the group.
  15. Likewise. I've enjoyed the discussions that went on in this thread. I think its a very useful thread that should be kept for next year.
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