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  1. Steins;Gate

    UofT/UWO Waitlist movement

    Good news: My friend who is declining U of T dents for meds has not declined U of T dents but will soon. So expect 1 more spot to open up! Hang in there everyone!
  2. Steins;Gate

    UofT/UWO Waitlist movement

    I have a friend who will be declining U of T dents for meds!
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    Help! Dal vs UofT

    @powerpenguin will probably have some things to say
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    UWO and UofT

    I'll speak about U of T and include some things that many people do not consider when they begin their dental education: Pros: - Extremely progressive curriculum. We used to never learn implants in prosthodontics in second year but since these past 2 years, implants are a part of second year. Gone are microbiology and other lab sessions that proved to not be useful and now we get to do a lot more clinical assisting (i.e. real patients) in first year through our Comprehensive Care Program (CCP). - Smoother transition from undergrad to dental school in first year. First year has had many modifications in order for students to feel acquainted with the workload of dental school. The exam schedule is less stressful than the way Western has their exam schedule. - Longer first year summer. First year students have 4 months of summer at U of T, while Western students don't get off until June. You can use this time to do research, shadow, travel, work, etc. This is also the very last 4 month summer of your life, so make good use of it! - Strong patient pool. Toronto and GTA's catchment is larger than London and surrounding regions. - Scholarship. Unsure of how much Western pays (I understand there are bursaries and Schulich scholarships), but U of T automatically gives us a $2,000 scholarship for being in this professional program. - Easy to find shadowing opportunities in surrounding private practices and specialty clinics at the school. Faculty and residents encourage you to shadow and some have a preference for U of T students. - Hospital rotations. You will have the opportunity to rotate through some hospitals including: Mt. Sinai, Sick Kids, Sunnybrook, and CAMH. Each hospital has different types of patients to observe and treat. - Research opportunities are very plentiful. U of T prides itself in being a didactic institution so research opportunities are always available. - No class rank. We have GPA and that is it. If you're unsure of a specialty or not... do not worry that class rank will dictate your fate. Just keep your GPA at a decent level and do not worry about comparing to others like you would at Western with class rank. - Very few schools (I was told none in Canada) allow you to have such major input to changes at the Faculty like Toronto does. I sit on student leadership that gets the chance to speak to Faculty about issues once per 1-2 months. And some have open door policies so we can always go in and speak with them. I was told this is not the case in many other schools. - And then your typical pros like networking opportunities are more plentiful, Toronto is a bigger city and has more attractions/restaurants/places to visit and shop at, and etc. Cons: - Bigger class size. This isn't really a con IMO because you have a higher chance of finding people you click well with. So you can look at it either as a pro or a con. - Rent is more expensive because you are in the city. - Older facilities but they are being renovated as we speak (the cafeteria, lounge, and grad labs are all renovated). The library and auditorium will be renovated soon then the clinics. - You may not be able to get to do the molar endo like you may at UWO but you still may be able to... it would be the luck of the draw. - It would be nice to have a bigger emphasis on wellness. We are working on this and we hope wellness will play a much larger part of the Faculty in the future. EDIT: Both schools have their pros and cons. @Zaandrei. is a very good person to talk to about UWO. He's very involved at Schulich and has done research (through the summer research program) and presented at conferences.
  5. Also, Alberta is very strict with sterilization practices compared to other provinces. This results in higher expenses.
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    UofT/UWO Waitlist movement

    I'm going to share a story about one of my buddies in the first year class at U of T. This person applied 3 times and was waitlisted the first two times (and never got off the waitlist as the waitlist # was well beyond #30). The third time, this person applied again (same DAT/GPA as previous years) and improved on their personality test (after realizing that this played an important part of the overall file score) and got in directly. The point I am trying to make is that the difference between waitlist and straight offer is just improving one aspect of the interview process. To all who have received interviews and are on the waitlist, please do not feel the need to re-write your DAT (unless it is expiring) or improve your GPA unless you are a 3rd year student. Really spend the year trying to improve your interview skills and apply to a broader selection of schools. You are so very close and do not feel discouraged if you do not get off the waitlist. It is such a competitive process that the smallest of margins makes a bigger difference than one would expect. And of course there is lots of luck involved so do not be too hard on yourself. If anyone needs help planning for next cycle, I'm all ears and a PM away.
  7. @cleanup is correct. You can receive both certifications on the Saturday of the first week of school! Most of our class went to the single day course that day and it was held at school in the auditorium. Please note this is for ODA members so you would have needed to pay for your membership by then.
  8. Congratulations to everyone accepted - one of the users here also received good news last year and was so ecstatic to the point of being "very sweaty" (you know who you are) . It's a surreal feeling that you will never forget! Welcome to the wonderful profession of dentistry. I have a few buddies waitlisted and I know it sucks. You are honestly so close and at the interview stage, there is a bit of luck involved. Some of the advice I gave my friends included: 1) taking the day off to chill (feel unhappy/sad and get it out of your system, you need some time to unwind a bit), 2) expect nothing and hope for the best (if the waitlist gets to you awesome but don't expect it to... treat it as a pleasant surprise), and 3) have plans for next cycle (will you continue your job? do more volunteering and shadowing? travel, etc.?). You likely did your best in the interview so it may have been the slimmest of margins in terms of being accepted versus waitlisted. Don't be too tough on yourself. If you have gotten to the interview stage, it means on paper you are qualified to be a dental student. If this was not your year, it will be your year very soon... just brush up on those interview skills and you will receive an offer eventually! Best of luck to fellow waitlisters and to those rejected, keep working on that application and keep trying - you will eventually get there.
  9. I also wanted to add a few more insights that are a bit more personal but maybe also helpful: Even though I generally really enjoy what I do, I sometimes overthink and overanalyze if I'm truly happy where I currently am. I remember a friend (currently at an Ivy League for dent) who said I was stupid for not applying to Ivy League schools just because it was a lot more expensive. But I remember that by going to U of T, I'm saving a lot more money, I get to spend 4 more years with my family, and can build a good network in and outside of the GTA. So maybe grass is not greener. Sometimes I also wonder how life would be if I went to medical school because I worry that I might get "bored" working in the same office every day with the same staff and doing similar procedures every day on the same area of the body. But then I remember that general dentistry has much more variety of work than many other healthcare professions which often are very specialized and that I would work fewer days in dentistry and spend other days pursuing other interests because financially I am going to be stable as a dentist. So all in all, I am not happy-go-lucky every day about dentistry but I think dentistry is one of those very customizable careers where you can practice in many different ways and do the procedures you want. And I recognize that dentistry is a job. Jobs can get boring and undesirable at times but that's why you get paid for doing them. And dentistry happens to be one of the more tolerable fields for sure. I have had a classmate withdraw from the program (he had been in an established career before dental school) so make sure you figure out if this field is right for you. It is a very expensive decision to make and the earlier you know it is not right for you, the better. Also, mental health is a real issue in dental school. The levels of stress in first year can get very high. Anyways I am rambling by now but I just wanted to present a more honest side of being a dental student. If anyone is unsure of dentistry, feel free to PM!
  10. Both "look" fine. If you haven't done research before, try it out! If you have, I would recommend getting some exposure in the dental office (especially if you haven't shadowed before). Ultimately, do what interests you - you will speak it about it with more conviction and interest in your application and interview.
  11. Up until dental school, a big motivation for doing well in school is just to get good grades. In dental school, you're studying to become a healthcare professional. Thus, you start realizing that learning is not just about doing well in school but you're also trying to learn how to best treat and help your patients. It's not so much about the grades anymore as it is about learning what is relevant and important to your future career. What you learn, a lot of it will be applicable down the road unlike in undergrad. Academically: Everyone is pretty bright in dental school and were top students in undergrad. It means many are amazing memorizers, test-takers, and are very detail-oriented. You may end up being average and this requires some getting used to. Just do your best, pass your courses, and try not to compare yourself too much to others. Also, people may be book smart but their hand skills may not be the best. Some people are good at both. Understand that hand skills and clinical judgement are key as a budding dentist. Even if you have memorized all the requirements for an ideal prep, if you can't use indirect vision and drill this prep to the ideal specifications, then it leaves a bit to be desired. Another thing is that you will have less time to study more content. Often I went into exams not fully confident/ready - just do your best. Socially: Amazing. You will have a wonderful group of classmates of which many will be your friends for life. Always so much going on and it's so easy to get to know upper years. Upper years are so helpful and will help find you extra teeth, good patients to assist, shadowing opportunities, etc. Faculty: Super approachable and they treat you as equals/colleagues. Learn as much as you can from them. Professionally: From dental conferences to companies wining-and-dining you (insurance and financial advisors, etc.), you will have a lot of opportunities to learn about life after graduation. This means a lot of free food, dressing up fancy, and networking. Maybe it won't be today, tomorrow, or next week but as long as I work hard every day, I will eventually be a good, competent dentist. I am very lucky to study a field I enjoy and attend a school in one of the most awesome cities in the world and I wouldn't trade it for anything else. I have made so many new friends but I also cherish time with non-dental friends, family, and myself. I make sure to work hard but also play hard.
  12. Do research only if you have an interest in it and/or you have an interest in specializing. Otherwise shadow or work in dental practices the summer or travel and relax!
  13. Same here - received offers to work as an assistant through connections. One of the dentists asked me to not only work as an assistant but also work in other roles in the office, from admin (not reception) to more clinical positions. I suppose one needs to be creative when finding relevant work in the summer but it can be done!
  14. Steins;Gate

    Help? Uoft Waitlist vs. UCC

    Chill, you're in. See you in September!
  15. You can do the accelerated protocol! It will be administered on day 0, 7, and 21-30. I was able to even do the last two doses in a different country so this will not ruin any summer vacation plans (assuming you stay someone else for an extended period of time) if you have good planning.
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