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  1. There are usually a handful in each class at U of C. I've graduated now but I'm in the "mature non-traditional" club. Feel free to PM if you have questions.
  2. I'm not the best example, because I also have a Masters, but I have an honours BA in psych and I just finished medical school. There were a few people in my class who came from psychology and other BA programs, so I don't think it's an issue. If you are really worried then the best person to talk to would be the admissions department at whatever schools you plan to apply to, just to make sure you are able to plan your degree effectively in order to include any pre-requisites etc. EDIT: Also not a University of Ottawa student (but coming to uOttawa for residency!) so again, best to talk to admissions :-)
  3. Can anyone who has gone through this process explain how it works for people starting July 1st? Everything I am finding is showing January 1st and June 30th deadlines. Thanks in advance! :-)
  4. We have a couple 40+ students in our school. Mid 30s is more common. As someone else has pointed out, the cost of having built a life before medicine is that you need to find a way to maintain that life within medicine. That's not impossible but make absolutely certain you are willing to give up what you are going to have to give up to make a go of things in medicine. Medical school and clerkship are tough, but I didn't find they caused a lot of problems for me and my friends. Residency match did. Clerkship is exhausting no matter what age you are, but none of my 35+ medical school friends were unable to meet the demands. The academics of pre clerkship also require work, but it's totally do-able. If you get to the end and get a match in CaRMs that you want then everything is golden. However, if you were to open CaRMs and find out you have to move away from everyone and everything you care about to a city you may or may not be keen on... that can mean very different things to someone in their late 30s/early 40s than it does to someone in their early/mid 20s who doesn't have the same social boat anchors that tend to lock people into living in a certain city. For younger students friend groups are often more fluid and mobile (not all the time, but in general), most will be renting instead of owning a house, most will not have children in the school system, they are less likely to have a partner who has built a longstanding career in their home city etc. If you (and your partner/children/pets/best friends/etc if applicable) are not prepared to make that kind of sacrifice then think long and hard before you do any of this, especially if you are thinking about matching to a specialty. Refusing/walking away from your match contract and calling medicine a $150,000+ financial misadventure becomes more impactful the older you are (planning for retirement etc.). Similarly, the potential of having to take an extended clerkship year (if you limit your applications to stay in your home city and don't match) may also be more problematic for an older student (financial strain on family etc.). Extended clerkship and non-ideal matches are an important consideration for younger students as well, but in my experience older students are more likely to have families that will also be directly impacted. You absolutely CAN do medicine in your 40s, but if you are going to you should really make sure that you are OK with what medicine is going to demand from you. If I was to ask all of the older students I know from different medical schools "would you do this again now that you're at the end" I think most would say yes, but there are some who I suspect would say "maybe not" or "no". Invest the time now to really walk through all the potential outcomes and make sure you are in the yes group.
  5. Cattle Baron is great if you're in the mood for a steak and don't mind spending a few bucks :-) No clue if it's also in Edmonton though. If you like Vietnamese there are SO MANY good Vietnamese places in Calgary. Pho Kim is not too far from the U of C and delicious. There are also a bunch of places in town that made various "Top 100" restaurant lists if you want to get fancier.
  6. You've been criticized a lot in this thread and your response was thoughtful, so I commend you for that. I actually agree with you that you are facing a challenge that is indeed preventing you from having equal access to opportunity. I am disappointed that this is being portrayed in some comments as less of an issue of inequality because it is based on faith. I imagine patients who strictly observe the Sabbath are also facing barriers within the healthcare system due to the restrictions you have posted above (thank you for sharing that btw, as I don't really know much about the Sabbath). I also agree it would be nice if schools could provide some accommodations around this. That being said, this barrier is only going to get more problematic as you move forward in medical training, at least if you are training in the system as it exists now. This has obviously been put forward by others already, but I think it's VERY important for you to carefully consider this issue before attending your interviews: Medicine REQUIRES Saturday and Sunday call from students in a vast majority of programs and, as you have seen, programs have differing amounts of flexibility. It's not every Saturday, but if you strictly observe the Sabbath then it's enough that it's going to be a pretty big challenge for you. If you can get an accommodation through medical school, you may also have trouble with this in residency as most residency programs also require weekend call (even FM residents here get weekend call). At least in my program there is almost no way you could get out of doing at least some weekend call (it's specifically written in our requirements that X amount of call must be on weekend days and not weekday days). This isn't intended to stomp all over your medical school goals. There are obviously physicians of every faith practicing today and some very well may strictly observe the Sabbath. It might be valuable to start reaching out and try to find some of those physicians to talk to them about how they are balancing their religious obligations with medical practice. This is a solution you will want to find BEFORE you shell out a whole bunch of money and time into training only to get derailed at the clerkship or residency level. I hope there is a way around this, and I'm sorry you will have to do much more work than the average student to find a way to stay true to your faith during your training, but I truly wish you the best in doing so.
  7. I'm sure programs are just as thorough in checking their rank lists before they submit them as we are (I went through mine approximately 350 times, lol). At the end of the day, anything is possible I suppose, but TBH if that did happen you are right we would probably never hear about it. No program is going to want to alienate all of their new residents by letting them all know they matched there by accident. There are a lot of places along the way where failures can happen, but it helps that most, if not all, if the parties have a similar goal. Both programs and residents want to ensure there is a good fit and CaRMS wants to keep raking in an offensive amount of money every year by facilitating that process.
  8. They might be interviewing everyone, but not necessarily. It's a black box what they are using but between MSPRs, personal letters, CVs, records of electives etc. they have lots of potential information they could use.
  9. This... is horrifying. Also... where the heck is this nurse getting beer in the hospital?! o_O
  10. You're not even in medical school yet and you are worried about call? This is putting the cart before the horse. Hate to break it to you, but depending on what province you are in and where you are practicing even family docs have a call group obligation. With very few exceptions you should absolutely expect that call shifts and weekend/holiday work will be part of your life as a physician. I'd also echo what others have said: so far you've expressed views that medical training is a punishment, are more concerned about the prestige of being a physician than the social accountability of the medical field and are already posting about disliking call before you've even done a call shift... it might be worth reflecting on whether or not medicine is really a career you want or if you have been drawn to an idea of what medicine is that is different from reality. There are plenty of careers where you can make just as much as a physician with regular hours and won't be expected to be on call. Medicine is not this kind of career. It is a career where you can expect to sometimes work late (even when you have other things to do), sometimes treat patients without getting paid (even halfway into clerkship I've seen this arise multiple times) and do call (there are a few exceptions when you can potentially have no call as an attending, which others have talked about, but you'll still have multiple years of call in clerkship and residency before you get to that point). If this is going to be a major issue for your quality of life then it is worth thinking carefully about whether or not this is the career you want or if a different career might fit your goals and personal values better.
  11. If you can write meaningfully about it then there's no reason not to use it. My Top 10 was a mix of single events in time and longer term projects. I wouldn't use all single events in time, but if you have one that really speaks to you and shaped your interest in medicine then it's not wrong to include it. You can always draft it in for now and if you wind up with another "Top 10" that is a better fit later you can substitute the new one in.
  12. EMPA-REG has come up a few times in my clerkship so far, even though it's newer.
  13. I wouldn't say your academics are a hot mess... you have a break that you can explain and your first year was maybe a bit suboptimal but that's not that uncommon when people transition to university. The rest of your academics are solid and you've got some extracurricular things you did because you care about them, including some good research. If the U of C is one of the schools you are considering the only challenge you might have is whether or not you have enough full time years (4 classes or more per semester). Year 4 is golden. Year 5 is also great as long as you have a full course load in your last semester. If you aren't taking a full course load in your final semester then it would come down to whether you can use 1 semester from year 5 and 1 semester from year 3 to make a full time 'year'. I honestly don't know the answer to that (I would ask admissions). I would agree with butterfly... you'll have to do a bit of legwork to double check your availability for some schools, but there's no harm in writing the MCAT and taking a shot at admission if that's what you want to do. In terms of your other question: clinical neuropsychology vs behavioural neurology is not my area of expertise. I would spend some time really thinking about where your 'cold feet' have come from and why you are wondering if medical school might be the better option for you. That's a question only you can answer. Another thing worth exploring is having a look at what kind of job you want at the end and which degree will get you there most effectively. The final question to think about is whether or not you are willing to give up your guaranteed offers to go to clinical neuropsychology to pursue a medical school admission that is not guaranteed. Again, there isn't a 'right' answer to that question - it's a personal decision that only you can make. All the best going forward! :-)
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