Hi all, long time lurker, first time poster.
I wanted to hear your thoughts about my situation. I just finished up my third year at an Ontario university.
Year 1: Let's not even talk about it
Year 2: 86.2%
Year 3: 88.1%
Year 4: TBD
Here's what I'll be applying with this year (all full time semesters)
Western (Best 2): 87.1%
OMSAS (Lowest year dropped): 3.75
AADSAS (No years dropped): 3.62
Here's what I'll be applying with If I take a year off so schools can include my 4th year grades.
Western (Best 2): 90.6% (assuming I get 8 A+'s and 2 A's which I think is doable considering I would only be taking 3 courses per semester + 2 courses per semester counting towards my honours project).
OMSAS (Lowest year dropped): 3.83
AADSAS (4 year gpa): 3.78
So here's the deal. Realistically, I think I only have a shot at Western while my other option would be the states.
Option 1: Apply to US schools and Western this upcoming cycle and go to US if I get a rejection from western. Let's assume I get a rejection from western but I get accepted in the states.
Option 2: Apply to western only this upcoming cycle and if I get a rejection, apply to western and the states in the next cycle (Class of 2022) and accept any school that accepts me. Let's assume I get an acceptance from western and the states in the second attempt.
Option 1 Pro's
- Much better clinical training in the states (from what I've heard)
- Become a dentist at age 25 (enter the field 1 year earlier compared to option 2)
- I have a buddy in UDM tearing it up so I'll have all his notes, guidance and connections
Option 1 Con's
- I would be $230,000 more in debt compared to option 2 (but keep in mind I would be a year ahead, so I think I think I can knock off at least 80k off of this in my first year of work)
- Tuition (410k)
- I would have to write the US DAT, write up a personal statement and get 3-4 LOR's all within the next 2-3 months while working 40h a week in a lab.
- AND I would have to write the Canadian DAT in November to apply for western because they wouldn't accept the US DAT that I would write this summer.
- My dad would pass me down his 2010 Honda Civic
Option 2 Pro's
- Save $230,000 compared to option 1 (tuition 180k)
- I can write the Canadian DAT this November which I can use for BOTH US and Western.
- Take a year off (I don't know if this is a pro or a con LOL)
- I would reward myself with a 2017 Civic SI
Option 2 Con's
- Enter the workforce 1 year later (I always have the thought where I would be making 300-400k in my 50's, so working an extra year as a dentist (if I go to the states) would outweigh the price difference between US and Canada, but then again I think about the ~10 years that it would take to payoff a 500k loan )
- There is also the chance that I don't get into western on my second attempt. I would feel like crap for wasting a year of my life just to bank on western.
- 2 years of lab experience (hopefully I'll have a first author publication by the end of my 4th year) + 4 poster sessions this summer (2 conferences in Toronto)
- 100h shadowing
- VP Pre-Dental club, Pres this year
- Half-marathon coming up next month
- Competitive beach volley ball in the summers
- Private piano teacher (had 5 students at my peak)
There is hope for western considering the new ABS and personal statement system they're implementing and I'm really curious as to what will come out of it. I know the cutoff for last years interview was 87.5 however I've heard that people with 84's have been interviewed this year. I'm just not sure if western is going to accept a lot of people with lower averages but impressive EC's. I'm patiently waiting for them to release their stats for the class of 2020. Hopefully those who applied to western this year will get the good news soon!
Also, StriveP, congrats on the Harvard acceptance!!!!!
So what do I do? If I go with Option 2, what would you suggest I do during my year off? I was thinking of doing a 1 year MBA but it seems like you have to have full time work experience . Thank you in advance!