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    OwnerOfTheTARDIS reacted to Torntoiletpaper in NAQ Drops and the Importance of Research   
    Yeah, that's pretty much a given. If you've heard of people getting in with a low GPA, chances are that they killed one of the other sections to make up for it. You can't be below average for everything and expect an acceptance. 
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    OwnerOfTheTARDIS reacted to heyhellohi in Chances? And do I retake MCAT?   
    Pre-interview: the MCAT plays no role in your score.
    Post-interview: from what I know, apparently the MCAT does not greatly impact your score (do not take this for a fact though). People do get in with lower scores by compensating in other areas of their application. So a "low" MCAT score is by no means a deal breaker, especially if you're in province.   
    I would recommend against re-writing the MCAT considering how much work goes into it.  Instead, devote that MCAT-studying time towards an activity or a job.  I think those will serve you better (in and out of the application!).
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    OwnerOfTheTARDIS reacted to Bluebird7 in Which Site and Why   
    Somewhat agree... but with SMP the commute is like 10 min. I personally found them very enjoyable. Got taught lots of physical exams that way. And I got early exposures to suturing/small procedures. Starting in first year, some of my classmates went to L&D with their FP preceptors, assisted in surgery, or did ski doc days. I don't think I talked to a classmate at SMP that didn't enjoy the FP visits in year 1/2. Also, the SMP FP course director listens to feedback and only keeps the preceptors who we have good experiences with in the program. Vancouver is desperate for preceptors... Kelowna is not.
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    OwnerOfTheTARDIS reacted to medisforme in Which Site and Why   
    SMP grad here.
    I would agree with all the positive attributes other members have posted here.  One negative that hasn't been brought up that affected me a lot as my wife and son did not live in Kelowna with me is the difficulty travelling back to the lower mainland in the winter (ie. on weekends).  The connector and coquihalla can be precarious.  I witnessed several accidents on the highway over three years, and was involved in one myself (the driver of the vehicle I was in IMO was going too fast for the conditions but I digress).  Also, at least twice I was stuck in the lower mainland past the weekend as the highway was closed or conditions were treacherous.  I tended to be white knuckled the entire drive.  Finally, I unexpectedly missed out on a couple of events I had signed up for due to the conditions (ICC visits, conferences etc...).  Of course, you can bypass this by flying all the time (though this is more expensive and only practical if you live in Vancouver, which I didn't) or just not going home.  Anyways, just something to be aware of.
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    OwnerOfTheTARDIS reacted to Bambi in MMI topic answer format/structure   
    Have a look at the first post of this thread:
     
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    OwnerOfTheTARDIS reacted to la marzocco in Doctor has sexual relations with patient   
    Former Supreme Court Chief Justice Beverley McLachlin had waded into the national debate on sexual-assault trials, telling complainants that while they have a right to be treated fairly and with dignity, they also need to be realistic in their expectations of a justice system that needs to protect against wrongful convictions. The integrity of the system demands that they be taken seriously and that their interests be reconciled with the rights of the accused:
    "Complainants and witnesses need to understand what is required of them in a trial and what they can realistically expect from it. No one has the right to a particular verdict but only to a fair trial on the evidence. Because of the Draconian consequences, the criminal law has long demanded high standards for conviction for a crime. If convicted a person may be in prison for a very long time and lose that most precious thing without which everything else is worthless: his or her liberty. The potential for wrongful conviction always waits in the wings. So the law for centuries has rightly insisted on credible evidence, a vigorous defence right of cross-examination and proof beyond a reasonable doubt. There is an obvious tension between the rights that are essential to a fair criminal trial and the expectations that may sometimes arise on the part of complainants. And the criminal law must navigate this tension."
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    OwnerOfTheTARDIS reacted to Mithril in Med vs dent   
    You can make as much or as little as you want in family medicine. The income average is pretty skewed by family physicians who only work part time since that is one of the benefits of family medicine: essentially being able to craft your own schedule.
     
    I work 6 days a week and I am at a very comfortable income level after overhead working 8 hours per day. if you want to make as much money as a specialist, then put in as many hours as most specialists, join a group practice where you're only paying 20-25% overhead rather than 30-35%, and use some of that brain power that got you through undergrad, med school, and residency to learn how to diversify your financial portfolio wisely.
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    OwnerOfTheTARDIS reacted to Butterfly_ in Med vs dent   
    I suggest becoming an investment banker if you want to make $$.
    Becoming a doctor for the money is probably not the best choice.
    Just my two cents.
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    OwnerOfTheTARDIS got a reaction from End Poverty in Mac vs Surface (current med students)   
    A lot of people in my class are obsessed with the iPad + Macbook combo. A few who bought a Surface in the summer have actually bought an iPad as well because they were disappointed with the Surface performance  don't know exactly why it didn't work for them. 
    I personally wanted to save money so I just use my old Macbook air and added this: https://www.amazon.com/Intuos-illustration-production-CTH-490-B1/dp/B013SMIUB2/ref=zg_bs_3228285011_41?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=QBZ1B41W4KGHHH1757WS
    it's a ~$100 writing pad that is plenty sufficient for the anatomy lectures where I want to be able to draw on pdfs/slides. I have never taken a lot of handwritten notes so I didn't need anything fancier. 
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    OwnerOfTheTARDIS reacted to Lactic Folly in Am I going to be at a disadvantage because of my age?   
    Neither - you'd be expected to possess the level of maturity appropriate for someone entering a professional program, who would be seeing patients soon after, and potentially treating them independently in a matter of several years. This applies to all candidates regardless of age.
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    OwnerOfTheTARDIS got a reaction from yake in Which Site and Why   
    It drops to 4 students/instructor in IMP clinical skills. They try to keep all family practice placements 1:1. 
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    OwnerOfTheTARDIS got a reaction from frenchpress in Which Site and Why   
    It drops to 4 students/instructor in IMP clinical skills. They try to keep all family practice placements 1:1. 
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    OwnerOfTheTARDIS got a reaction from Koopatroopa in Which Site and Why   
    Yeah! Around the first week of November, all of the distributed site students had an opportunity to go visit their site. The weekend is usually organized by the 2nd years who host 1st years at their homes so no one has to pay for a hotel, Friday night and Saturday are full of fun activities and evening parties, and Sunday is left free for people to view apartments and look for housing. If you ask, there is even usually a 2nd year happy to drive you around on Sunday if you need help getting around to see housing options.
    The exact schedule I describe is approximate and could change year to year, but the site visit itself is very consistent. There is usually even funding split evenly between everyone attending their site visit to help keep ferry, drive, and flight costs down. 
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    OwnerOfTheTARDIS reacted to EricLeman34 in Varsity sports and med - can they be mixed?   
    I personally know two people who were on the Varsity Track and Field team when in medicine. Practices are typically from 5-7:30 pm and they were able to manage it while still... surviving? 
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    OwnerOfTheTARDIS got a reaction from clever_smart_boy_like_me in Varsity sports and med - can they be mixed?   
    I haven't personally, but I honestly don't think it is possible on two levels: 
    I don't think you could fit it into your schedule. Exams are on weekends. We're in class, small group, clinical skills or lab like a full time job, usually 8-5 with one or two mornings off per week. On top of in-person sessions you have to prep for CBL 3x per week and most people I talk to spend about an hour prep for each session. Plus a couple online modules per month. Plus studying. Although the work is easier/less stressful than undergrad, it simply requires more of your time I honestly think trying to do so would damage your mental health and personal well-being. Even if you managed to make the practices and games without sacrificing aspects of your education, you would have almost zero time left for other interests, family, and social activity.  My comments are based on the fact that I worked part-time in undergrad averaging almost exactly the same number of hours per week as my friend spent on a varsity team and there is no way I could keep up with that many hours working while in med school. 
    However, the intramural sports teams and faculty of medicine group activities are amazing. Like 1/3 of the class (over 100 people) from this year's med class at UBC are on an intramural team. We at the IMP have a running club and we go play squash together most Sundays. Lots of options available that are more manageable from my perspective. 
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    OwnerOfTheTARDIS got a reaction from frenchpress in Varsity sports and med - can they be mixed?   
    I haven't personally, but I honestly don't think it is possible on two levels: 
    I don't think you could fit it into your schedule. Exams are on weekends. We're in class, small group, clinical skills or lab like a full time job, usually 8-5 with one or two mornings off per week. On top of in-person sessions you have to prep for CBL 3x per week and most people I talk to spend about an hour prep for each session. Plus a couple online modules per month. Plus studying. Although the work is easier/less stressful than undergrad, it simply requires more of your time I honestly think trying to do so would damage your mental health and personal well-being. Even if you managed to make the practices and games without sacrificing aspects of your education, you would have almost zero time left for other interests, family, and social activity.  My comments are based on the fact that I worked part-time in undergrad averaging almost exactly the same number of hours per week as my friend spent on a varsity team and there is no way I could keep up with that many hours working while in med school. 
    However, the intramural sports teams and faculty of medicine group activities are amazing. Like 1/3 of the class (over 100 people) from this year's med class at UBC are on an intramural team. We at the IMP have a running club and we go play squash together most Sundays. Lots of options available that are more manageable from my perspective. 
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    OwnerOfTheTARDIS reacted to Snowmen in ‘A pseudo-science’: Outrage after Ontario government funds college program in homeopathy   
    They should be cutting seats, if anything. Funding residency spots? Now that is something we could use.
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    OwnerOfTheTARDIS got a reaction from yake in Which Site and Why   
    It depends on what you want! Your site really doesn't affect specialty selection in any way - shadowing may be slightly limited compared to Vancouver, but clerkship offers equal opportunity to explore specialties and pre-clerkship really has no bearing on CaRMS. 
    From what little I know (my info is most accurate about IMP, my site):
    Vancouver  
    Great for having every shadowing opportunity in almost every niche specialty you can imagine. Lots of technology. In anatomy lab, they have this 3D Sectra Anatomy Visualization Table and often radiology residents come in to walk you through a short 3D rendering/radiology session on the anatomy you are dissecting that day. Some people love it, others don't find it too helpful but it is cool to see Clubs and leadership positions are abundant. There are still clubs and some class council leadership positions at distributed sites, but they are more limited. The class size can be really overwhelming. I hated having >200 people in lecture hall and felt it was hard to get to know classmates or instructors and tutors.  Housing is much much more expensive in Vancouver (although I heard that Kelowna was getting more expensive this year?) General Distributed Site Info:
    Having only 32 people in your class is amazing (in my opinion). Still big enough to find a group of friends where you connect and share a lot in common, but small enough that you know everyone at least a little bit. In clinical skills, your groups are often smaller so you get more time and 1:1 instruction You sometimes get more family practice visits (all sites are supposed to have 10 visits in second semester, but Vancouver was cut down to 5 because they couldn't get enough preceptors) In clerkship, you supposedly get to do more stuff than clerks in Vancouver because you aren't competing with multiple residents and fellows who have seniority Most lectures are done in Vancouver and video-conferanced to the sites. You can still ask questions to the lecturer in Vancouver over microphones. Some people don't like this, but I love it. Unless someone is asking a question, you're not really on camera so you can stretch or stand up during lecture if you need to. One time a classmate was really sore so she just sat down on her yoga mat and quietly stretched through the lecture In lab, the ratio of tutors to students is usually much higher  It can be stressful needing to move from Vancouver to your distributed site in December over the break Victoria:
    Best site in my personal opinion   In January after you arrive, the Victoria Medical Society hosts a ball at the Empress Hotel. Look it up. It is amazing. I have never eaten better food in my life. We have a program called First Patient. In pairs, students are assigned a volunteer patient with a chronic health condition and spend 1 year getting to know them, attending their health care appointments with them, and learning what it is like to be a patient in the health care system, an experience many med school students haven't had (don't worry, you aren't doing more work than everyone else - they assign us slightly fewer family practice visits than other sites so it balances out) The lab instructors organize comprehensive review sessions before lab exams. This does not happen at other sites. We supposedly always have the best lab averages and it is definitely less stressful.  We are only a 1.5 hr ferry from Vancouver so you can go see your favourite band in concert and be back for class the next morning The biggest disadvantage is in shadowing: there are no shadowing opportunities in ophthalmology, dermatology, anesthesia, or obstetrics/gynecology. Surgical shadowing is limited: you are only allowed one OR shadowing experience. Furthermore, Victoria General and the Royal Jubilee Hospital (the only 2 major hospitals in Victoria) have a policy that you cannot be in an OR, even for shadowing, unless you have had scrub training. Unfortunately, we currently only receive the training in 2nd year before clerkship. The class of 2021 is trying to change this so that future classes receive training shortly after arriving in Victoria and can have their surgical shadowing experience during pre-clerkship. The only other opportunities might be if you can arrange shadowing in Cowichan or Nanaimo hospitals.  If you are interested in any of these specialties and still want the IMP (or end up here), try to do some shadowing during your first semester in Vancouver before making the move in December. I honestly found that shadowing different specialties just once or twice gave me a lot of insight on whether I wanted to explore them further. Additionally, there is also the summer when you could do some shadowing in Vancouver if you wanted to. But you can only do so much shadowing and compared to some other med schools, UBC has a lot of clinical experiences and patient contact during pre-clerkship We do a ski trip to Mt Washington and a surf trip to Tofino every year Tons of nearby hiking and camping options  Our anatomy lab has windows and a ventilation system to help with the smell. The Vancouver lab is in a basement with no windows and the ventilation is weak. Some minimal info on the other distributed sites...
    Kelowna: 
    I have heard rumours that they have dogs at the university building where lectures are held. Stressed? Go pet a dog they have ski trips up to Sun Peaks every year I believe Prince George:
    supposedly in clerkship you get to do extra double cool stuff because they are trying to get students invested in northern medicine so that the students love working in the north and stay after they graduate cross country skiing?
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    OwnerOfTheTARDIS got a reaction from casajayo in Which Site and Why   
    Streamed live (with surprisingly good technology - it doesn't feel as weird as expected) and then most recordings are posted online (I'd estimate 90%). The thing is each individual lecturer has to sign a form and consent to having their lecture posted online, a few don't want to do that. You can't know for sure whether a lecture will be recorded in advance, but you can look in the archives and if that same person already gave a recorded either earlier in the semester or a previous year, they will most likely be recorded again. 
    Also if there is a guest patient involved in a lecture, it won't be recorded to protect their confidentiality. 
    You can also re-watch the recordings on a higher speed (it's pretty easy to watch on 1.4 or 1.6 times speed, some people can do 2x speed but I can't personally) and get through them faster when you're doing review. 
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    OwnerOfTheTARDIS got a reaction from casajayo in Which Site and Why   
    Definitely not an even split. 90% in Vancouver, the other 10% split between the three sites
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    OwnerOfTheTARDIS got a reaction from frenchpress in Which Site and Why   
    Streamed live (with surprisingly good technology - it doesn't feel as weird as expected) and then most recordings are posted online (I'd estimate 90%). The thing is each individual lecturer has to sign a form and consent to having their lecture posted online, a few don't want to do that. You can't know for sure whether a lecture will be recorded in advance, but you can look in the archives and if that same person already gave a recorded either earlier in the semester or a previous year, they will most likely be recorded again. 
    Also if there is a guest patient involved in a lecture, it won't be recorded to protect their confidentiality. 
    You can also re-watch the recordings on a higher speed (it's pretty easy to watch on 1.4 or 1.6 times speed, some people can do 2x speed but I can't personally) and get through them faster when you're doing review. 
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    OwnerOfTheTARDIS got a reaction from Comprehensible in Which Site and Why   
    Streamed live (with surprisingly good technology - it doesn't feel as weird as expected) and then most recordings are posted online (I'd estimate 90%). The thing is each individual lecturer has to sign a form and consent to having their lecture posted online, a few don't want to do that. You can't know for sure whether a lecture will be recorded in advance, but you can look in the archives and if that same person already gave a recorded either earlier in the semester or a previous year, they will most likely be recorded again. 
    Also if there is a guest patient involved in a lecture, it won't be recorded to protect their confidentiality. 
    You can also re-watch the recordings on a higher speed (it's pretty easy to watch on 1.4 or 1.6 times speed, some people can do 2x speed but I can't personally) and get through them faster when you're doing review. 
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    OwnerOfTheTARDIS got a reaction from frenchpress in Which Site and Why   
    Sorry for potentially going too deep. I love my site, would not change my choice for any reason, but do think that the site representatives after the interview did a poor job of being honest and realistic of both benefits and drawbacks. I just want to help everyone make the informed choice that is right for them. 
    If anyone has more info on Kelowna or Prince George or a different perspective on Vancouver and the island, let me know and I could edit my post to be one comprehensive overview for people to find easily. 
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    OwnerOfTheTARDIS got a reaction from frenchpress in Which Site and Why   
    It depends on what you want! Your site really doesn't affect specialty selection in any way - shadowing may be slightly limited compared to Vancouver, but clerkship offers equal opportunity to explore specialties and pre-clerkship really has no bearing on CaRMS. 
    From what little I know (my info is most accurate about IMP, my site):
    Vancouver  
    Great for having every shadowing opportunity in almost every niche specialty you can imagine. Lots of technology. In anatomy lab, they have this 3D Sectra Anatomy Visualization Table and often radiology residents come in to walk you through a short 3D rendering/radiology session on the anatomy you are dissecting that day. Some people love it, others don't find it too helpful but it is cool to see Clubs and leadership positions are abundant. There are still clubs and some class council leadership positions at distributed sites, but they are more limited. The class size can be really overwhelming. I hated having >200 people in lecture hall and felt it was hard to get to know classmates or instructors and tutors.  Housing is much much more expensive in Vancouver (although I heard that Kelowna was getting more expensive this year?) General Distributed Site Info:
    Having only 32 people in your class is amazing (in my opinion). Still big enough to find a group of friends where you connect and share a lot in common, but small enough that you know everyone at least a little bit. In clinical skills, your groups are often smaller so you get more time and 1:1 instruction You sometimes get more family practice visits (all sites are supposed to have 10 visits in second semester, but Vancouver was cut down to 5 because they couldn't get enough preceptors) In clerkship, you supposedly get to do more stuff than clerks in Vancouver because you aren't competing with multiple residents and fellows who have seniority Most lectures are done in Vancouver and video-conferanced to the sites. You can still ask questions to the lecturer in Vancouver over microphones. Some people don't like this, but I love it. Unless someone is asking a question, you're not really on camera so you can stretch or stand up during lecture if you need to. One time a classmate was really sore so she just sat down on her yoga mat and quietly stretched through the lecture In lab, the ratio of tutors to students is usually much higher  It can be stressful needing to move from Vancouver to your distributed site in December over the break Victoria:
    Best site in my personal opinion   In January after you arrive, the Victoria Medical Society hosts a ball at the Empress Hotel. Look it up. It is amazing. I have never eaten better food in my life. We have a program called First Patient. In pairs, students are assigned a volunteer patient with a chronic health condition and spend 1 year getting to know them, attending their health care appointments with them, and learning what it is like to be a patient in the health care system, an experience many med school students haven't had (don't worry, you aren't doing more work than everyone else - they assign us slightly fewer family practice visits than other sites so it balances out) The lab instructors organize comprehensive review sessions before lab exams. This does not happen at other sites. We supposedly always have the best lab averages and it is definitely less stressful.  We are only a 1.5 hr ferry from Vancouver so you can go see your favourite band in concert and be back for class the next morning The biggest disadvantage is in shadowing: there are no shadowing opportunities in ophthalmology, dermatology, anesthesia, or obstetrics/gynecology. Surgical shadowing is limited: you are only allowed one OR shadowing experience. Furthermore, Victoria General and the Royal Jubilee Hospital (the only 2 major hospitals in Victoria) have a policy that you cannot be in an OR, even for shadowing, unless you have had scrub training. Unfortunately, we currently only receive the training in 2nd year before clerkship. The class of 2021 is trying to change this so that future classes receive training shortly after arriving in Victoria and can have their surgical shadowing experience during pre-clerkship. The only other opportunities might be if you can arrange shadowing in Cowichan or Nanaimo hospitals.  If you are interested in any of these specialties and still want the IMP (or end up here), try to do some shadowing during your first semester in Vancouver before making the move in December. I honestly found that shadowing different specialties just once or twice gave me a lot of insight on whether I wanted to explore them further. Additionally, there is also the summer when you could do some shadowing in Vancouver if you wanted to. But you can only do so much shadowing and compared to some other med schools, UBC has a lot of clinical experiences and patient contact during pre-clerkship We do a ski trip to Mt Washington and a surf trip to Tofino every year Tons of nearby hiking and camping options  Our anatomy lab has windows and a ventilation system to help with the smell. The Vancouver lab is in a basement with no windows and the ventilation is weak. Some minimal info on the other distributed sites...
    Kelowna: 
    I have heard rumours that they have dogs at the university building where lectures are held. Stressed? Go pet a dog they have ski trips up to Sun Peaks every year I believe Prince George:
    supposedly in clerkship you get to do extra double cool stuff because they are trying to get students invested in northern medicine so that the students love working in the north and stay after they graduate cross country skiing?
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    OwnerOfTheTARDIS got a reaction from Koopatroopa in Which Site and Why   
    It depends on what you want! Your site really doesn't affect specialty selection in any way - shadowing may be slightly limited compared to Vancouver, but clerkship offers equal opportunity to explore specialties and pre-clerkship really has no bearing on CaRMS. 
    From what little I know (my info is most accurate about IMP, my site):
    Vancouver  
    Great for having every shadowing opportunity in almost every niche specialty you can imagine. Lots of technology. In anatomy lab, they have this 3D Sectra Anatomy Visualization Table and often radiology residents come in to walk you through a short 3D rendering/radiology session on the anatomy you are dissecting that day. Some people love it, others don't find it too helpful but it is cool to see Clubs and leadership positions are abundant. There are still clubs and some class council leadership positions at distributed sites, but they are more limited. The class size can be really overwhelming. I hated having >200 people in lecture hall and felt it was hard to get to know classmates or instructors and tutors.  Housing is much much more expensive in Vancouver (although I heard that Kelowna was getting more expensive this year?) General Distributed Site Info:
    Having only 32 people in your class is amazing (in my opinion). Still big enough to find a group of friends where you connect and share a lot in common, but small enough that you know everyone at least a little bit. In clinical skills, your groups are often smaller so you get more time and 1:1 instruction You sometimes get more family practice visits (all sites are supposed to have 10 visits in second semester, but Vancouver was cut down to 5 because they couldn't get enough preceptors) In clerkship, you supposedly get to do more stuff than clerks in Vancouver because you aren't competing with multiple residents and fellows who have seniority Most lectures are done in Vancouver and video-conferanced to the sites. You can still ask questions to the lecturer in Vancouver over microphones. Some people don't like this, but I love it. Unless someone is asking a question, you're not really on camera so you can stretch or stand up during lecture if you need to. One time a classmate was really sore so she just sat down on her yoga mat and quietly stretched through the lecture In lab, the ratio of tutors to students is usually much higher  It can be stressful needing to move from Vancouver to your distributed site in December over the break Victoria:
    Best site in my personal opinion   In January after you arrive, the Victoria Medical Society hosts a ball at the Empress Hotel. Look it up. It is amazing. I have never eaten better food in my life. We have a program called First Patient. In pairs, students are assigned a volunteer patient with a chronic health condition and spend 1 year getting to know them, attending their health care appointments with them, and learning what it is like to be a patient in the health care system, an experience many med school students haven't had (don't worry, you aren't doing more work than everyone else - they assign us slightly fewer family practice visits than other sites so it balances out) The lab instructors organize comprehensive review sessions before lab exams. This does not happen at other sites. We supposedly always have the best lab averages and it is definitely less stressful.  We are only a 1.5 hr ferry from Vancouver so you can go see your favourite band in concert and be back for class the next morning The biggest disadvantage is in shadowing: there are no shadowing opportunities in ophthalmology, dermatology, anesthesia, or obstetrics/gynecology. Surgical shadowing is limited: you are only allowed one OR shadowing experience. Furthermore, Victoria General and the Royal Jubilee Hospital (the only 2 major hospitals in Victoria) have a policy that you cannot be in an OR, even for shadowing, unless you have had scrub training. Unfortunately, we currently only receive the training in 2nd year before clerkship. The class of 2021 is trying to change this so that future classes receive training shortly after arriving in Victoria and can have their surgical shadowing experience during pre-clerkship. The only other opportunities might be if you can arrange shadowing in Cowichan or Nanaimo hospitals.  If you are interested in any of these specialties and still want the IMP (or end up here), try to do some shadowing during your first semester in Vancouver before making the move in December. I honestly found that shadowing different specialties just once or twice gave me a lot of insight on whether I wanted to explore them further. Additionally, there is also the summer when you could do some shadowing in Vancouver if you wanted to. But you can only do so much shadowing and compared to some other med schools, UBC has a lot of clinical experiences and patient contact during pre-clerkship We do a ski trip to Mt Washington and a surf trip to Tofino every year Tons of nearby hiking and camping options  Our anatomy lab has windows and a ventilation system to help with the smell. The Vancouver lab is in a basement with no windows and the ventilation is weak. Some minimal info on the other distributed sites...
    Kelowna: 
    I have heard rumours that they have dogs at the university building where lectures are held. Stressed? Go pet a dog they have ski trips up to Sun Peaks every year I believe Prince George:
    supposedly in clerkship you get to do extra double cool stuff because they are trying to get students invested in northern medicine so that the students love working in the north and stay after they graduate cross country skiing?
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