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    cookacola reacted to rmorelan in Western Med Waitlist Discussion/support   
    ha excellent - it is said a lot here but really it is hard to go wrong with Canadian medical schools. 
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    cookacola reacted to CanPreMed2018 in Western Med Waitlist Discussion/support   
    Just got the call at 2:20 pm EST for the Windsor campus and I was on the Normal waitlist! Can't wait to see all my future classmates and good luck to those still on the waitlist because it is moving!
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    cookacola reacted to pretomd in McMaster vs Queen's Medicine   
    Thank you all. After conferring with many individuals in both programs, I have made the decision to accept McMaster. I really appreciate the help everyone has provided. 
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    cookacola reacted to crisronaldo in McMaster vs Queen's Medicine   
    Congrats on securing both offers, that is a feat. Mac and Queens both have a great program. I have plenty of friends at Mac who have thoroughly enjoyed their experience at Mac and couldnt have been happier anywhere else. Again they are PBL directed, so the match between the program and their personalities made their med school experience memorable. If you are PBL directed, I think Mac's program was built for students like you. Those picking other schools are usually used to normal didactic learning, which you can find lots of at queens and other schools.
    My friends at Mac didnt feel disadvantaged. And my friends still got what they wished for. Mac's matching rate is pretty solid, and a great number match to very competitive specialties every year. However Mac also has the advantage of an additional year of electives. If for any reason you are not satisfied with 3 years of schooling, you can always choose to have a 4th year, during which you can pursue any sort of electives and clinical opportunities or research that you want. This gives you significant advantage in terms of how much opportunities you can have while controlling for how many years you want to stay in the program. So if you compare a 4-year Mac vs 4-year queens program, you will see that Mac has more opportunities to offer (given that Mac starts clerkship in 2nd year, you will have almost an extra year of electives). Again, there is a good chance that you dont need it, and you can finish in 3 years if you find thats what you best need, but you cant do that at queens.
    One thing to consider is that queens may not have all the specialties you might be looking for. There are certain specialties that you would have to travel to other schools to have the opportunity to engage in.
    You should also consider which school you want to do residency at later on? Home advantage for residency is a thing, you will have more time to make connections with people at the school you attend. That being said, Hamilton is pretty close to Toronto, so you may have an easier time at Mac managing your electives and securing opportunities in Toronto. Mac has the second highest number of residents at UofT after UofT itself.
    You may also wanna consider the city you will be living at. 3-4 years is not a short time. Hamilton is a thriving city with lots of things to do. Beautiful waterfalls, hikes, entertainment, great food, and Toronto is less than an hour away. Kingston on the other hand is pretty small, with very little to do in the city, which is a turnoff for lots of students who want to make the most of their years while they can. This can be really important when you try to relax from the heavy schedule you will be having in med.
    All in all, congrats again for the feat. Its not easy at all to secure both at ontario!
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    cookacola got a reaction from Persephone in For Them Waitlisters   
    For what it's worth: I got my offer off the waitlist on the 24th and they gave me until june 7th to accept, so keep in mind there are still people holding onto offers right now and some will eventually decline!
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    cookacola got a reaction from Edict in U of Alberta vs. McMaster   
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    cookacola reacted to hartk48 in Official May 8 Countdown Thread   
    one page less to refresh! haha thank you  
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    cookacola got a reaction from hartk48 in Official May 8 Countdown Thread   
    its just an email, wont say accepted on omsas
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    cookacola got a reaction from HappyAndHopeful in OBGYN Elective Suggestions?   
    Hi Guys!
    Can any upper years suggest any great OBGYN electives to look into? 
    In particular I would love to do a 2 week one out West but don't know anyone who has done any out there to ask if they had a good experience.
    Feel free to message me if you'd rather! 
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    cookacola reacted to ana_safavi in Unmathched Human Rights Complaint   
    The Student-Institution Relationship as Contractual and Private
    One of the primary legal theories that partially defines the student-institutional relationship is contract theory.22 While there is at least one very early case that is based in contract theory,23 it was not until the 1970s that contract-based cases began appearing with some regularity.24 In Sutcliffe v Governors of Acadia University, the Appeal Division of the Nova Scotia Supreme Court stated that “there was clearly a contract here between the appellant and the university and it is this contract which governed the relationship between the parties.”25 This principle has been consistently upheld in judicial decisions over the past 40 years.26
    Several judicial decisions have suggested that the primary contract is an implied contract to educate. The institution contractually agrees to provide students with the appropriate instruction, educational services, and other resources necessary to complete the educational credential that they are seeking, and to grant them that credential upon successful completion of the required courses and other learning activities. The students’ contractual obligation is to pay the required fees, successfully complete the appropriate courses, maintain the required academic standards, and abide by the institution’s policies, rules, regulations, and bylaws.
    (From Handbook of Canadian Higher Education Law by Theresa Shanahan, Michelle Nilson, and Li-Jeen Broshko)
    You would need to argue that the contract implies not just the conferring of the MD, but also a residency position. (Not the residency spot of your choice, mind you -- just *a* residency position, somewhere).
    I'm still suspended, with no idea of a potential return date. Given that it's been 11 weeks since I reported the sexual harassment, and they still haven't even hired an investigator, I'm not holding my breath that they're going to get their act together anytime soon. What else am I going to do while I wait? Might as well keep busy. 
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    cookacola reacted to ana_safavi in Unmathched Human Rights Complaint   
    This issue likely needs a legislative solution. And it needs to be re-branded as a public interest issue. As in: spending taxpayer dollars to put someone through medical school, but not through residency, is simply an atrocious waste of public resources. You could also attack the OMA for not doing anything about this (they don't do anything of significance for any medical trainee issues, period, and frankly I'm sick of it).
    But, if you did want to litigate this, I think your best bet would be to do a Class Action for Breach of Contract. The Class would consist of all unmatched CMG applicants, perhaps going back all the way since the rotating internship was dissolved. The damages would be all the tuition and ancillary fees paid through medical school. You would argue that when you pay the school your tuition fee, there is an implied contract not only that you will be granted an MD degree (provided that you meet minimum academic standards, complete all requirements, and follow all rules of conduct), but also that you will be able to actually practice as a physician (which requires you to be able to match to a residency position).
    I'm not entirely sure who the defendant would be. The medical schools themselves? The AFMC? The CFPC for getting rid of the rotating internship? You may be able to add CaRMS as a defendant, with their exorbitant application fees as damages. I think you would want to file in federal court, but I don't know if that's possible. The federal government I think would be an intervener, but not a direct respondent. I'm not sure, it's a bit complicated.
    If there is enough interest in a class action like this, let me know. I may discuss with a couple lawyers that haven't disappointed me yet, and see if there is a viable cause of action here.
    Obligatory disclaimer: I AM NOT A LAWYER and could be talking completely out of my ass.
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    cookacola reacted to crysally in Unmathched Human Rights Complaint   
    This is the kind of quote that makes me wish there is a dislike button. You have #1 contributed nothing to the conversation and #2 put down some random stranger who is going through a difficult time. From your posting history you seem to be interested in surgery as well, so maybe one day you might be in the same shoes. Why bother writing it at all?
    As a recently unmatched student I too found myself angry+bitter for quite some time after reading Robert Chu's letters to the minister. I feel like all the medical schools were trying to make his death a mental health issue when there is a looming employment disaster they should have addressed with the press coverage.
    To OP, I am in the opinion that media would be better than human rights complaint, and rmorelan made really good points in the previous post iirc. As the child of an immigrant, I saw my highly educated parent getting rejected at costco job fairs. It really sucks, but like everything, this will pass too.
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    cookacola got a reaction from buttercream in Questions Regarding Undergraduate Programs at Western   
    Similarly, graduated with BSc in biology and my closest friends were in med sci or health sci, also feel free to pm me
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    cookacola got a reaction from Dr.swagster in Only Interviewed at Mac   
    Many in my class
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    cookacola got a reaction from BoopityBoop in Only Interviewed at Mac   
    Many in my class
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    cookacola reacted to m_jacob_45 in Acceptance while on waitlist   
    I think this depends on the school because I got an offer exactly 2 weeks after the first round of offers, and I got 1 week to respond (uOttawa). 
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    cookacola reacted to FailureToThrive in Possible To Apply To 2 Competitive Specialties?   
    That's fine, I agree that the government needs to make sure there's a mix of physicians that reflects public's needs, but to be "badly viewed" by PDs for exploring different specialties and having more than one interest is ridiculous. 
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    cookacola reacted to FailureToThrive in Possible To Apply To 2 Competitive Specialties?   
    Man that's just ridiculous. Why are students not allowed to have different interests? People can enjoy painting and wrestling, just as people can enjoy plastics and radiology, interests are not mutually exclusive. It shouldn't be off-putting.
    IMO, it seems immature to put all your eggs into one extremely competitive specialty (plastics) without backing up with another specialty of interest. Putting family med just as a back-up to avoid going unmatched when your interests/talents lie in other fields is just dumb. It takes the spot from someone who actually wants family med and gives it to someone who would be miserable in the field. 
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    cookacola reacted to ralk in Applying to Multiple Specialties   
    Bit of both I think. Students don't pay attention, but partially because admin communication or advice is inconsistent, non-existent, or poorly delivered that students aren't receptive when the good advice comes.
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    cookacola reacted to Birdy in Family with Obstetrics vs. Obs/Gyn   
    So, OP, this was my dilemma for a long time and I agonized over it for months and months and probably drove my friends and husband up the wall with my indecision on whether to do OB or FM. 
    I talked with a lot of OBs and residents and family docs who do deliveries. The general consensus was do OB/Gyn if you want to be a surgeon. Do FM with obstetrics if you want to deliver babies and do women’s health/reproductive health (trying to get away from using the “women’s health” terminology since it excludes trans men who need gynae services too.) Family docs can be trained in IUD insertions, c-sections, D&Cs.
    As my OB preceptor put it, a family doctor with an interest can do 85% if OB/Gyn. You can’t (usually) do high risk obstetrics, gynae onc, or independently do gynae surgery (you can first assist though.) But you can do more. Bonus, the baby is still your patient after the cord is cut and you get to see them when they eventually get cute too. 
    For me personally, I just don’t have a five year surgical residency in me. I have three kids, the oldest of whom will be a teenager soon, and I really need to be here for them. If they were all very young, I might consider a surgical residency, but honestly when they need me as much as they do during these really rocky years, I decided I can’t do that to them. I applied to family medicine only, and plan to do obstetrics and other “enhanced” reproductive health. Plus some emerg, because I found out I like that too, and FM gives me the flexibility to do lots of that and change it over time as my needs change. 
    Feel free to PM me if you have any questions. I’ve spent a LOT of time talking to people about this very issue. 
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    cookacola reacted to HappyAndHopeful in Family with Obstetrics vs. Obs/Gyn   
    Hi everyone!
    I’ve always been drawn to obstetrics, and my backup plan if I didn’t get into medical school was to be a midwife. I’m also finding myself drawn to Family Medicine, because of the continuity of care, the diversity in patient needs, and the flexibility/ability to have control over your schedule. 
    Obs/Gyn also really appeals to me because of the combination between obstetrics and women’s health. The only thing is that the OB/GYN lifestyle makes me nervous; I worked with an OB/GYN in my undergrad, and he’d frequently be awake for 48 hours and at the hospital or clinic well into the night. Having a family is VERY important to me, so I would like, ideally of course, for my career to allow me to have a healthy balance between work and family life.
    I think if I did Family medicine, I would want to offer obstetric services as well. I know there would still be call involved, and that family doctors who do obstetrics can be part of a call group or deliver their own patients (which I’ve heard can be tricky if one patient goes into labour while you’re in clinic). 
    So, would anyone be able to comment on the lifestyle differences between an OB/GYN versus a Family doctor who does obstetrics? I have some electives planned for later in the semester, but I’d love to hear your experiences/insight.
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    cookacola reacted to rmorelan in My PI Just Gave Me An Ultimatum...I'm Completely Torn   
    ha classic academic narrow mindedness. As if UG working in labs are the ones being taken advantage of - all your work/free labour is such a burden on him. Plus the education you receive there is hardly wasted if you get into medical school. 
    Obviously in any case he simply won't provide you a letter of reference for a 3rd year application so you don't have to factor that into anything. 
    I don't like lying or misleading to people but your situation I would be sorely tempted to simply tell him no problem, the odds of getting in 3rd year are small anyway and the research is important to you and your long term academic goals (and boosting your medical school goals). Plus having a degree does help you I feel down the road (not to the point that I wouldn't apply in 3rd year but enough that having it is useful) Assuming you would still have enough time to prepare for the mcat (which sounds like your plan was that anyway) then still write that test (many people applying in the 4th year still write that test in the 2nd year summer anyway - you just did all the courses, and if you don't do well enough you can rewrite - not a lot of negatives really). If you do well then what exactly would be stopping you from applying regardless of his wishes? How exactly would he even know anyway? If this person is the sort to provide ultimatums how sure are you that they will write a suitable LOR or not force you into some other scheme for more work down the road?  In any case staying on in the lab, and getting that publication etc buys you time to figure out ultimately what you want to do. It would also give you leverage - "ok, I am willing to put my goals a bit on ice for you and the lab - I expect support down the line when I do need it when applying as fair is fair".
    People in positions of power are suppose to help you reach your goals not get in the way. Academics are also supposed to teach - that is literally their job. They aren't supposed to be bullies and create high pressure scenarios . 
    Regardless of what you do in the point be clear - he is looking out for his interests ultimately here regardless of the wording used (you cannot take advantage of a lab, he feels you are taking advantage of him or at least not giving him what he wants). You have to do the same. If he can teach you one lesson in the lab outside of the research that would be it  
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    cookacola got a reaction from buttercream in Course Selection 3rd Year MedSci Physiology   
    i found classics 2200 way more interesting than 2300 (Mythology was a lot more fun to learn than all the different sports the ancient greeks played, but you might think the opposite)
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    cookacola reacted to buttercream in McMaster Interview Invites/Regrets 2018   
    I can definitely say that an invite to interview was a surprise
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