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  1. ^ Does anyone know if Waterloo conversion is still the same? I just went through all pages and haven't found any updates since 2009.
  2. Thank you. Good feedback. Just to clarify how CAP program works: You don't commit to pharmacy right off the bat. Getting a CAP offer means that you have a spot reserved for you in the pharmacy school. That spot becomes available after 2 years of regular science undergrad. The only commitment she would have to make right away is Waterloo. You lose your CAP spot if you do undergrad at another university.
  3. Thank you for your feedback. She is absolutely going to make her own decisions. I have next to zero say in the process, not that I want to have any say. It's her life. All I am trying to do is gather some basic facts so I can answer her questions.
  4. *** BUMP *** My daughter got an interview at Waterloo CAP (Conditional Acceptance to Pharmacy). If she ends up with an offer, her undergrad options will look as follows: Option 1 - decline CAP offer - do regular undergrad at McGill or Western - start applying to med schools after the 3rd year etc etc etc - move on to something else if med doesn't work out Option 2 - accept CAP offer - graduate in 6 years with a PharmD degree - apply to med schools while working as a pharmacist, if the desire to go into medicine is still there 6 years from now. I'd like to get some general feedback on the second option. Is it a crazy idea to do PharmD before trying med? Would she gravely jeopardize her chances to get into medical school if she does PharmD first? Would she place herself at a distinct disadvantage compared to younger med candidates who follow the traditional route? Thank you.
  5. http://forums.premed101.com/index.php?/topic/89976-need-help-with-the-undergrad-options/
  6. I thought I would ask here in the forum before I contact the schools. Does PharmD degree meet minimum academic requirements for medical schools? The reason I ask: Most med schools require 3 or 4 years of undergrad studies. PharmD includes 2 years of undergrad studies and 4 years of professional school. Strictly speaking, PharmD degree does not meet the minimum requirements exactly as specified. I wonder how medical schools interpret the rules in this case. Thank you.
  7. You mean all of us together, the entire family? This is not an option.
  8. freewheeler, robclem21, DoctorAM Thank you!
  9. Good to know. Thank you. It's a moot point given what you wrote above. Hypothetically speaking, if ON cohort was stronger than QC cohort, bell-curving would benefit ON students.
  10. I think I read it about 1000 times by now. Okay, a bit less. It doesn't really answer the most important question: which premed programs outside of McMaster Health Sci give you the best odds. The article doesn't include the data to figure out the success/failure rate per university.
  11. McGill minimum entrance grade for ON students is about 93-95 (varies by year/program). The minimum grade is quite a bit lower for QC students. To me, this means than ON cohort at McGill is stronger than QC cohort at McGill. Please let me know if my logic is off. I am sure that QC schools are capable of producing very competent students, but that's not the point here. I know she can't apply to QC medical schools. I am talking about applying to Ontario medical schools from McGill. Strictly the mechanics of the application process. Do you have to mail more paperwork because McGill is in a different province? Is the process more error-prone because McGill computer systems are not integrated with OMSAS? Do you have to pester McGill admins to do their work on time? What happens if McGill support union goes on strike? I have no idea how the process works. Just want to learn.
  12. Stangster, great post #10. Thank you very much.
  13. NotASerialKiller, did you go to McGill? This is purely anecdotal, but I read a few online posts -- probably right here in this forum -- claiming that A at McGill is very hard to get. Any truth to that? I hear what you are saying about two systems being very similar. But I am not convinced. If I am a prof, I wouldn't have a second thought about giving B+ to a "good" student. Yet, as you said, it's bad news for pre-meds. Western system seems more forgiving on paper. I guess I need to see more hard evidence to change my opinion.
  14. http://www.ouac.on.ca/docs/omsas/c_omsas_b.pdf Western (column 3) 90-100 = 4.00 85-89 = 3.90 80-84 = 3.70 You end up with 3.90+ GPA if you keep your grades 85 or higher. Seems doable. Even an occasional 80-84 doesn't penalize you harshly. McGill (column 8) A = 4.00 A- = 3.70 B+ = 3.30 You need straight A/A- to earn a competitive GPA. B+ is a serious set back.
  15. chemiosmosis11, I don't plan to post a lot, so hopefully I won't ruffle too many feathers. Thank you for the rest of your response. You made some great points. Still, McGill grading system seems unforgiving when I look at the OMSAS conversion table. To me, this is a red flag.
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