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  1. In Alberta working in the public sector, salaries start in the high $60K and go up into the high $90K. I believe it is the highest paying province however. Taxes are also much lower than most.
  2. I would say the majority of students that need money on top of OSAP took out a line of credit from either RBC or Scotiabank when I was in school. However, UofT does understand the cost of living is high and there was a bursary given to students called UTAPS (unsure if the name has changed) which can be a few thousand dollars or more (or less if you’re living at home). Working during school would be very difficult because on top of the 8 hour day at school there is often a lot of outside studying, group work, and hands-on practice that takes up a lot of time. That being said, a handful of people had flexible jobs (personal training, promotional work) that they could work around in their off time so it is possible! Hope that helped!
  3. Hi there! Former UofT PT student here. 1. The workload is pretty heavy. There were only a handful of people that had part time jobs and many of them were jobs they could manage on their own hours (personal training etc). If you’re very organized, it’s definitely possible however! Research is mandatory with every program in Canada (it is what makes the program a masters degree), and it is normally performed within the department with faculty and associated physiotherapists in the community. UofT has a heavy research unit but it is given its own unit in the program as opposed to some schools which you must be doing research projects throughout the year. If you have previous experience it will be very helpful with contributing to your project but also great for applications for scholarships (like OGS). 2. Student life is pretty good! The rehab department is very athletic as you can imagine and generally wins most or all of the intramural sports and many students participate in varsity sports. 3. It is usually about 40h of class a week (8/9am to 4/5pm) which varies depending unit and if you want to practice in the labs longer or have group projects. I commuted to school from much farther than Mississauga and it was definitely doable - you can do work on the go train very easily and I saved a lot of money. I would say 25% of the class was commuting from the GTA. 4. Everyone in my class had a job (if they wanted/were able to work) within 4 months of graduation, most had one within a month of their last placement. This is regardless of living in Toronto or not. However, private clinic jobs are much easier to get full time employment in initially. If you are looking to work in the public sector, you will most likely have to start off as a casual PT and work your way up internally. Toronto overall has amazing job prospects. Hope that helped!
  4. It would be difficult to compare schools from different countries because the scope of practice changes pretty drastically depending on which country you are in. Each school would therefore focus on what is emphasized in that country and have a drastically different curriculum. For example, in many Asian countries, PT cannot be accessed without a referral from a doctor. They may have less business training as a result. In the UK, the PTs have a much more thorough cardiorespiratory section, as in the hospital, PTs have a role similar to respiratory therapists. It would be nice to have a large chart however that compares the strengths and weaknesses of all the schools offering PT in the world but none exist that I know of!
  5. For 2 years, I did a “Post Graduate Major” in Classical Studies (not too difficult but was something I had a side-interest in). The universities treat the classes like any undergraduate degree in terms of the last 20 half credits. Just ensure you’re taking the required upper level courses for the major or speak directly with the schools you’re applying to PT for to ensure there’s no issue with having some lower level courses part of your sub GPA. I didn’t have a backup plan if I did not get into PT and Classics was certainly not leading to job opportunities. If you pick something you like and can get high marks in, that would be my suggestion but if you’re unsure, you could always looking into course based masters (I have had friends pursue Public Health etc) with better job outlook if you’re unsuccessful. PM me if you’d like for more info.
  6. UofT PT has a 6 month long dissection lab where you and 3 other students are assigned and dissect a human donor. There are also hundreds of prosected specimens to view and are made available. This a mandatory part of the anatomy course and ends in 2 separate bell ringer exams. I found this extremely helpful in my physio practice and feel very privileged to have been able to work with donors.
  7. The bridging course is optional but was created to help internationally trained physiotherapists become familiar with the Canadian system, have the opportunity to go into clinics and hospitals with practicing PTs in Canada, and ultimately has been shown to increase the applicants pass rate of both the written and practical exams. You do have to write at least the written component to be eligible to practice regardless of doing a bridging program or not.
  8. Hi sinica14, I just read your post and wanted to throw in my two cents. I graduated from an Ontario PT program a few years ago and there were a few people in my program that failed the written exam the first time. There were a few that also failed it the second time. Had very similar uncharacteristic background with no red flags. All of them however passed on their third time. My one friend that this happened to went travelling in Europe for a few weeks to clear her head, and the other one I know when on a road trip across the USA. So if you’re able to afford it, I would suggest taking some time to do something fun for yourself. Next, I found that using the US PT exam study materials extremely helpful - their practice exams are much harder than ours as they have a larger scope for their initial registration (but they also don’t have two of them!) Also reviewing lots of anatomy saved me as well! My final advice would be to answer questions the way the Alliance wants you to answer them. Some of the questions, all the answers seem right, and you could probably do many of the ethical scenarios in many different ways (but as you know they always want the ‘best’ answer). But the Alliance is looking out for the public, so if in doubt, choose the answer that is the safest for the patient. I hope that helped a bit. I know it’s probably truly scary, but you can pass this exam! I know I don’t know you personally, but you have one extra person believing in you!
  9. Kingston is very small, especially if you've grown up in any kind of city! You can walk from one end of downtown to the other in about 30 minutes - but it has lots of shops, bars, restaurants, coffee places, grocery stores etc. It's become much more hipster since I left (I went back for my 5 year reunion), but the restaurants are even better now I think! During the winter, there is a really pretty skating rink on the downtown square, but there wasn't very much in terms of organized activities in the winter. One cool thing about Kingston is that it is less than 2 hours to Ottawa and 2 hours to Montreal - buses go straight from the Queen's campus on Fridays and back to Kingston on Sundays. I spent many weekends in Montreal when I should have been studying! If you're lucky enough to have some people in your class with a cottage around Kingston - take advantage! It is SO pretty in the lakes surrounding. Most people in graduate school live between downtown and the Queen's campus, closer to the water. There are more apartment buildings there and smaller houses (and much nicer houses) - the ghetto can super fun, but I was 100% ready to leave it behind when I graduated! I hardly ever needed to use the transit - I walked absolutely everywhere. Hotel Dieu and KGH are definitely within walking distance, but most other facilities will most likely need transit. It is doable, but the transit is not nearly as reliable as Toronto, or London. I would say overall Kingston is more accessible for the mainstays - getting to class, getting groceries, getting downtown, getting to the gym etc. London, however, is a much bigger city (it has two huge malls! Kingston has one tiny one and it is no where near the downtown core) and has a lot more variety of amenities and things to do (festivals, sporting events, concerts, shopping). The transit does work - but getting to/from campus from 7-9am and 3-6pm it is quite busy and often you will have to wait for another (or 2 or 3) buses because they are so packed!
  10. Hi There! I might be one of the only person that has gone to Queens, Western, and UofT for various degrees! I did my PT degree at UofT and will say that the education I received (teachers that literally wrote your anatomy books, or provided the standardized tests used Canada and worldwide) and the opportunities in clinical placements (Sports teams, Concussion Clinics, National Ballet of Canada, Army Reserves, numerous primary, secondary and tertiary public health care facilities that are world renown). Toronto as a city however can be overwhelming - pricey housing, very busy, unreliable transit - but exciting if you're into big city lifestyle! I did my undergrad at Queen's and will say it is a FANTASTIC university town! It has a unique atmosphere because it is much smaller than the other two universities and the campus reflects that. It is a beautiful campus and it is helpful that most people will live between a 5 and 10 minute walk from campus. And downtown. And literally everything else you might want to do in Kingston. Outside of the Queen's bubble however can be a bit grim, and the winters are absolutely brutal (and there is very little to do outside of bar culture). In terms of Queen's reputation, I have many colleagues who went to Queen's, who are wonderful therapists! I haven't heard any preference overall, but Queen's is a bit of a cult (in a good way! Cha Gueill!) and I can see Queen's grads liking other Queen's grads. One downfall that I do know of first hand is the placements, especially for hospitals, at Queen's (few hospitals - especially if you are interested in Neurorehab/Cardioresp) and lower amounts of resources given by the department each year to assist in out of catchment placements. I did a Master's degree at Western in London and had a blast! I lived downtown and bought a parking pass and drove to school everyday which worked for me! I preferred to be near the center, with the summer festivals in Victoria Park, coffee shops, restaurants etc. The summers are the absolute best (only an hour and a bit from either gorgeous beachs in Lake Erie or Lake Huron, lots of camping, etc.) However, if you do not have a car, I would suggest going within walking distance of Elborn - the buses do work, and you are given a bus pass, but they can be unreliable, and overfilled at peak hours/winter/raining etc. There was a transit strike when I was there and things got messy! In terms of reputation for UWO PT, I do not know too much other than they get taught by the best of the best in terms of manual therapists - all the experts are located there and they are taught some pretty advanced techniques. However, for the national exam, a pretty basic knowledge in MSK manual techniques is only needed, so if you're interested in anything other than orthopaedics, then maybe UWO isn't your jam. Overall, I loved each school and each city in their own way. I would go for the city you want to work in afterwards to be honest. 50% of my graduating class got jobs in clinics/hospitals they did their last placement in and I would say even more landed jobs in locations they did a previous placement at. Anywhere you go, you will get a worldclass education that is respected wherever you end up - welcome to an amazing career future colleague! Feel free to message me if you have any specific questions!
  11. Just FYI, you take your Level 1 Manual Therapy from Toronto as well (not sure about other schools).
  12. Hi there!! I'm a current PT student at UofT and just wanted to clarify a few things mentioned! The lab that you saw was only one lab - we have two identical labs on either side of the main PT floor with 50+ beds in each (not to mention 8 additional private study rooms each with plinths in them). Each of the large lab rooms are hooked up with video and audio equipment and ~6 TVs - which project demonstrations to both rooms while volunteer clinicians wander and assist you personally. This set up is actually really helpful as you don't have a large group of people crowding around one demonstrator! As for the class size, it is pretty big compared to most schools, and after two years with them - you feel like a large (usually crazy) family that have gone through the trenches together! (You also get some amazing career connections for the future.) Regardless, all Canadian PT schools provide you with a great education - whichever school you choose will be right for you!
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