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  1. Yup. There are even more previous posts where OP implies being a premed. To the posters who provided advice to the OP, I’d like to still thank you for your wisdom as someone who is just about to begin med school!
  2. While I appreciate that everything moving online has been feasible and even academically beneficial to the 2023 class, it's important to also understand the difference in impact these changes have for the 2024 class. Most of us are actually not so concerned with the educational experience but more so the med school experience in general. This encompasses more than just taking in info and doing well on exams. I think I can speak for most, if not all, of the incoming students that this unprecedented shift to online curriculum will undoubtedly impact opportunities to make friends, socialize and enjoy fun med related events. It's something many of us have been waiting for many years to experience, and now we will not get it, at least for the first term. This is unique to the incoming students because upper year med students have all had the chance to participate in their orientation events, made friends, and built a support network- an authentic and welcoming transition into the medical community. It makes sense that after you have all adapted to this transition, you would welcome a shift to online curriculum; most people who are already in school are pretty happy that things moved online, so it's not surprising.
  3. If it turns out yellow or orange I’ll just use it for snowboarding
  4. Like said above, Mac Health Sci is the best program to pave your path towards a high GPA which is the most important barrier to getting into med school in Canada. If you don’t get into Mac Health Sci, go for an undergrad program in a small university, like Trent or Guelph. Even a life sci degree at Trent is easy to get a 4.0 in. Ryerson is also an easier uni, but not as easy as Trent or Guelph. Contrary to popular belief, York is actually not “very easy”. Especially some of the science courses. Psyc and Kin are easier at York, however. I went to York for undergrad and our Chem classes had a 50% average, Math classes 40% average. I would rank from easiest to hardest like this: Mac Health Sci > Trent = Guelph > Ryerson > York > UofT Without revealing too much personal info, besides York I have taken courses at most of the institutions I mentioned above and truly felt a difference in difficulty of the material. This is not to say a 4.0 is impossible at UofT, or that it’s attainable without hard work at the easier schools, but there is a difference between these schools and the different programs in terms of getting higher marks. If I could go back in time, I would have gone to a much smaller uni like Trent or Guelph for my undergrad instead of York. Somehow people think these smaller unis are not conducive to pursuing medicine but it’s exactly the opposite! The fact that there are very few pre-meds at Trent is a good thing actually. Under no circumstances consider the name of the school as a factor in decision making if medicine/healthcare is your goal.
  5. They do not release this info! But you can go to the Queens invite/regret thread and figure out the cut offs. This year, no one got an interview with a CARS below 127 so it’s safe to say that was the cut off. It’s definitely not 100% certain but tends to be pretty accurate.
  6. You should be fine. Their cut off past few years has been around 509. The subsection cut-offs tend to be 125 or 126 although this year their CARS cut-off was 127. The only section that could hold you back is CP if they raise the cut-off to 127, which is unlikely tbh.
  7. I'm gonna be candid here because I truly want to help you instead of giving fair tale advice. People tend to think that they somehow didn't get in to UofA because their interviewing skills weren't good enough. I think that is not the case for many applicants. If you interviewed at 5 different schools and still didn't get in, then chances are you probably should be doing more interview prep. If you only interviewed at once school and didn't get in, and especially if that one school was UofA, Queens, or NOSM, I'm going to argue that you just didn't get lucky enough to get in. I'll explain more here: UofA interviews ~530 applicants for ~220 offers (this includes waitlist offers). Compare this statistic to many other schools and you will have better odds (UofT interviews 640, sends ~310 offers, Mac interviews ~550, sends ~330 offers, Western interviews ~480, sends ~250 offers, BC interviews 655 for 333 offers). I'm not even going mention Manitoba and Sask since they have super high acceptance rates post-interview. For ontario schools, the statistics I posted is reflective of the ENTIRE pool, however, for U of A the percentage of IP students who get in is even lower, this is because there is a lot more waitlist movement for OOP applicants. My point here is that as an IP applicant, your chances of receiving an offer from U of A post-interview is lower than many other med schools. As for anecdotal evidence. I have interviewed at U of C, U of A, and U of T. I got rejected from U of A and U of C but was directly accepted to U of T - St. George campus! I'll also tell you one more thing: I think I did WAY better on my U of A interview than my U of T interview. I remember calling my family and friends after my U of A interview basically pre-celebrating. One of the interviewers actually told me "Wow you did good". I also made them laugh several times throughout the interview. It was a very good experience. I was convinced I would get accepted to UofA. I ended up getting rejected with a 4.0 GPA, 510 MCAT, 8/17 ECs and a Pass like you. I'm gonna be bold and say I think I did the best I could at that interview. There wasn't much else I could have improved upon. Like, what else can you expect other than the interviewer literally telling you that you did a good job? My point from all of this is that, do not, under any circumstances put all your eggs in one basket. Make yourself competitive for as many med schools as possible. Your goal for the next cycle should be to get more interviews, not just get better for a UofA interview. Obviously, you can always improve your interviewing skills. But unfortunately, there is an element of luck in this process and relying only on one school means that you are playing a risky game. Aside from my preachy rant, if you are interested in learning about how the interview is assessed, PM me! I can prep with you when the time comes too. Free of charge obviously.
  8. Absolutely true! The American and Canadian healthcare system as well as political structure are very different. I had a friend of mine take a HUGE pay cut to move from Canada to Sweden as a doctor simply because of her fundamentals about raising children and the social structure of Scandinavian countries - 2 years later she is the happiest she has ever been and thinks she’s made the best decision. It’s important to consider where your philosophy of living most closely aligns with. We’re going off tangent a bit but it’s relevant regardless
  9. I totally understand why you are looking at the US that way currently. But I’d suggest to stay open minded throughout your medical career because your perceptions may not be completely accurate. It’s easy to look at the US from an outsider’s lens as inferior to Canada, but it’s very hard to confirm that unless you have actually lived there. I say this because I was also quite cynical of the US until my 20s when I stayed in South Dakota for a few months and travelled to the nearby states frequently (Wisconsin, Montana, Wyoming, North Dakota). I’m not white, so I expected to experience discrimination, racism, and ignorance. Instead, I met some of the kindest people I’ve interacted with in my life. Those states specifically tend to have a community vibe; people lend a hand to their neighbours, and foster a very close-knit friendly environment. I’ve lived in Canada both in Toronto, Calgary, and smaller towns and didn’t quite get the same feeling of people. I’ve been to Minneapolis, Chicago, New York City, Miami , and some cities in South Carolina as well. My experience in those cities were vastly different from the previous states I mentioned. People tend to be impatient and even unfriendly at times. In fact, I did experience some discrimination in parts of South Carolina which was really surprising. This is all to say that living in the US is an extremely variable experience depending on where you decide to reside. I’ve learned that I love some parts of the US while I cannot stand being in some parts.
  10. UofT's orientation will be fully virtual. We got the news today.
  11. Link to webinar for anyone wondering: https://facebook.com/events/s/2020-application-recap-session/2655762314679303/?ti=icl They will be able to see your comments during the live webinar, so if you have any concerns definitely express them there. They will address them. You can make an alternate fb account if you want to stay anonymous. It would be a good idea to raise questions regarding the extreme reliance on GPA over the MCAT, how to address those who will be severely impacted by the change in the weighing system, and why CASPer is not considered as a selection tool to allow a greater range in GPA competitiveness.
  12. That's fair. I expressed some inaccurate assumptions as there wasn't enough context for me to consider. I'm glad we could understand each other's point of view. Best wishes.
  13. I’m pretty chill. Also, I appreciate your comment. While you think mine was tedious and unnecessary I think both of our inputs are valuable in allowing students have a better understanding of schools. So, thank you for your response. The problem with your initial comment was that it implied the infamous stereotype of UofT med being cut-throat and competitive between the med students, which I don’t think you believe to be the case either. But since you didn’t clarify what you meant by the curriculum and student mentality, it could sway people into falsely thinking UofT med students are out to get each other. This entire conversation is important because there are a lot of valuable nuances that are being missed by stroking a broad brush on each school. For what it’s worth, if anyone is even remotely concerned about gunners, high student numbers, high learner number, or a competitive culture, MAM is a great campus that does not have any of the stereotypes you have described about UofT. I’m sure the same nuances could be explored about other med schools, and that would be a very healthy conversation to have.
  14. There is no absolutely no evidence of this. The idea that UofT is filled with gunners is fuelled by UofT undergrads and med students from other schools. So, it is based solely on conjecture. The only accurate source of information is medical students at UofT themselves who can speak about the culture and environment of the education. I’m an incoming student so I contacted many many upper year UofT med students to ask about the class culture and the education environment; not one student has told me that UofT is competitive, or is filled with gunners. I have spoken to UofT med students who also completed their undergrad there and they said that the undergrad and med experience are completely different. While undergrad at UofT can be cut-throat and competitive, med students are separated into smaller academies where they have their own fb group, they share notes and material with each other, have tons of parties and social events, and enjoy a close-knit connection with each other. This is especially true for MAM, Fitz, and PB, which account for 2/3 of the UofT students. The only academy at UofT that is not as tight-knit is WB simply because the student count is higher (~90 compared to the other three which consist of ~50 students). Gunners will exist at every school but the majority of the class will consist of kind, friendly classmates. Also, UofT changed their medical curriculum recently which is being received very favourably by the med students. We have Wednesdays off, lectures only on Monday and Friday in preclerkship, and the rest of the week is devoted to small group-based learning led by the students themselves or by a faculty member. It’s really not a good idea to speak about what each school is “known” for unless you have accurate, reliable information. We should be working to dispel stereotypes and myths that are being perpetuated, not reinforce them.
  15. Consistent stellar academic performance is already valued At UofT. If you have a 3.95+ GPA you are going to be near the top anyways. I don’t think that should be taken away from you either. You worked very hard to earn a high GPA and MCAT, and that deserves praise and value. The question is whether we also value those who triumphed in the face of struggles that put a seemingly small but hugely detrimental impact in their academics. It was only in my first year, and in fact mostly in my very first semester that a tragedy in my life impacted my academic performance. Even though it was only a few D+s, it destroyed my cGPA. It didn’t matter that I worked my butt off in 2nd, 3rd, and 4th year and got A+ in every single course. While everyone told me there is no point to pursue med with my terrible first semester GPA, I stayed resilient and got the highest 2nd, 3rd, and 4th year GPA in my program at my university. I would argue that, too, is valuable. The wGPA system with the 4 FCE drop allowed both type of applicants to be valued. Without it, only consistent academic performance is valued. It’s also important to note that the 4 FCE drop doesn’t value wholly inconsistent academic performance. If you had Bs and Cs throughout your academic performance, the weighing system won’t help you at all. It helps those with unique cases where they only underperformed in a few courses in their entire undergraduate career.
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