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  1. Not every household in Canada is dual income for a variety of reasons....second of all lets go by assuming that they are. Making 80K a year as a dual income while trying to raise 2-3 kids and think about buying a house? Good luck. The vast majority of Canadians are not privileged. I am sorry if I took out my frustrations on you. I just wish medical schools did more to consider applicants with more diverse life paths instead of just looking at numbers when sadly many people who are let in to the system have money as a big motivator and look down on other professionals/citzens while many others are let out. It is a constant cycle where the privileged like to maintain their position and make the system harder for others to enter and making it easier for people like themselves to get in. The only people that suffer the most are the patients who will directly or indirectly have providers who cant relate and emphasize with them.
  2. The median income in Canada is 40K. Read that again. 40K. Half of Canadians make less than 40K. So, yes truly middle class people have a lot of money difficulties in this country let alone work problems. But to you, middle class is driving an entry level BMW instead of a Porsche clearly.
  3. I was not saying anything about doctor's pay. They could make ten million dollars if I care. I was talking about your misguided, ignorant, and clearly sheltered views about the life and circumstances about other professionals (teachers, accountant, engineers, etc) and your clear superior attitude about the medical professional. It's people like you why a lot of Canadian medical schools are having initiatives to consider more holistic applicants with diverse backgrounds in their classes. That way they can understand the real life aspect of the lives of their patients and not think in the back of their mind "Im a MD, I deserve all this money and I am superior to you because I studied in my 20's and you didn't because you were partying in Cuba" hur dur
  4. you're extremely ignorant and you are part of the reason that some doctors get such a bad rep. I am actually disgusted by what you said. I personally know many examples of hard working, intelligent, people who have stressful lives and did not get to "party every single weekend and go on Caribbean vacations twice a year in their 20s." There are so many people that spend 4 years in a biology undergrad, followed by a 2 year Masters, followed by a 5 year PhD, followed by 2-3 year Post Docs (14 years of post secondary- all of their 20's, into their 30's) to fight for scrapes at a job in academia or research. The job they get after 14 years of post-secondary pays a mere fraction of anyone in medicine. They are the ones slaving behind a microscope working to advance society vs the dermatologist who makes one million a year giving people lip fillers and botox. So don't give me that BS. Even the people who decide to work after a 4-year undergrad are not out there doing what you say they are doing. There are countless people who finish engineering (much much harder than a bio degree that most medical students do anyway) who can not find any job. I know mechanical engineering graduates working at superstore living with their parents. Even the ones who can find work live in constant distress that they will be laid off. This goes as well for teachers who have to sub every day for years to even get a 50K job. My teacher friends tell me the gas they spend to drive 1 hour away from the city (and back) just to teach a half day at a school outside the city is almost half of what they made that day. Is teaching not important? I could go on and on about young professionals in almost every field. They can not afford to take a day trip to another province let alone party in an international location. The privileged position of finishing medical school and residency and then getting a job A LOT A LOT other people more than other people and having inherent prestige makes it easy for you to put down other people. You really need to get a grip on reality. EVERY doctor makes the top 1% income, some even in the top 0.5%. I am really heated and could go on but I am going to compose myself because I don't want to be banned.
  5. how did you graduate with honours with a 2.7..?
  6. SWOMEN advantage is probably the best advantage for medicine to have in this country.....choose any degree and get a 3.7 in only two years and a 125 CARS (both very easy to do) with no consideration of ECs....and you are guaranteed an interview...and then from there you have a ~ 60-95% chance of being offered a seat. If you are one of the 5-35% SWOMEN interviewees who does not get a spot post interview work on your interview next year and you have similar chances of admission. UNREAL SWOMEN applicants should feel very very lucky
  7. YesIcan55

    Calling other professions Dr?

    some people in this thread (and forum) need to get off their high horse...an MD is not some magical credential that is above all else. Getting a PhD takes more time, is more difficult, and receives a fraction of the rewards afterwards...the ignorance in the bloodied statement irks me a lot...if only people knew the difficulty of becoming a professor in Canada they would show more respect
  8. you're wrong about the fact that US doctors make more than Canadian doctors. You're wrong about the idea that US MD costs aren't as prohibitively expensive as they actually are. And you're wrong about that one would be wasting 4 years of their life trying to get into a Canadian school. Having that mindset means you think getting into medical school as the only one or number one thing you would find fulfilment in life....it's always good to have side interests / jobs/ education you can pursue and so you don't feel like you're putting life on hold..
  9. Oh and that article you posted is from 2008 first of all and I would be weary of judging the credibility of an article that says the "average primary care physician [IM, OBGYN, Family] doctor in Canada earns $125,000 after overhead in Canada." .....
  10. buddy you have someone who is literally a Canadian MD who is doing fellowship in the US telling you that you're wrong along with other members. Besides, this was never about how much doctors make in Canada/US. Do you even realize the hoops you have to jump through to get a US residency to even sponsor you for a VISA and/or to get a work permit in this day and age? This post was about the cost of attending a US MD school. It will cost about 450,000-500,000 by the end of the degree. That is not an opinion. That is a fact. If you can find a way to finance that money , by all means. But, people have to be realistic and mature about the money issue...
  11. can I ask why you wrote you are trying for "one last time"?
  12. no it isn't...its better to continue alternative schooling/jobs/life/application in the meantime while you reapply to Canadian schools.
  13. you obviously have no idea what you're talking about if you're bringing up the fact that US doctors make 30-50% more (which is not even true btw)....you're gonna be finished medical school with 500K in debt, then you'll be a resident earning peanuts just to survive while your debt builds interest, and you will have to go through many VISA hoops to even work as a doctor in the US especially know with the restrictive immigration/work policies...it's not like you finish residency and can just work in the US
  14. Tuition is 60-80K depending on the school, living expenses (room+food+misc) is 20K. So thats 80-100K per year. Multiple that by 4 and you get 320-400K US. So let's say an an average of 360K US...convert that to CAD and you get $450,000. This does not even include the possibility of the Canadian dollar slipping more, or the fact that you will have an interest on your loans...
  15. people always gloss over the fact that it costs half a million dollars to get a US MD.....assuming you get in of course and everything is smooth are you ready to be $500,000 in debt once you finish medical school? I always feel that either there are many posters on this site with VERY wealthy parents or people are naive about the money issue like it will just take care of itself and worry about that later...
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