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  1. yup the rules are applied systemically - if you have the two years you have the two years, regardless of the rest
  2. ahhh ok - that was strange - thread back. Must have happened when someone was cleaning up the thread with non- invite information etc. Sorry!
  3. Crunch time - good luck everyone!
  4. I hear it is mostly diversification - which going at it backwards would allow you to be better suited to apply for backup positions. If done everywhere it would more likely standardize the elective process (some schools already allow less electives in an area than others). I will be interested if it makes it easier or harder to get electives in a particular area with just a chance - people may not be able to individually take so much in an area but the same number of elective spots in the end have to be covered - same number of students after all needing the same number of weeks. Hopefully that won't log jam some fields (not to pick on rads as I often seem to do but that is my field - it is often an easier elective so people would take it for a break - that was great but if your desire for a mini vacation blocks my desire for an elective that may decide my entire career pathway then I think people can understand why that would be annoying). If you can only do 8 weeks of electives you are really, really going to want those to be at your target schools. Also as a side note ha - some of the nice things right now with many 4th year elective students is that they are often they are applying to the speciality (which usually means they have a high chance of success) and thus if you focus on educating them for 2 weeks you know that is knowledge they will need, and you are actively evaluating them for your program. That creates a special type of dynamic (even grumpy staff will put in effort more for a likely future colleague than someone taking something for "interest"). Plus the average elective student may know more because they will potentially have more electives already in that area - I had I think 14 weeks of radiology so by the last rotation I was operating at a higher level than I would have with just 8 weeks). Basically I am saying I hope this doesn't weaken any mentoring going on - staff like students often question the entire diversification focus in the final year of things. It sounds like the sort of good on paper idea that immediately hits problems in the real world where we are not diversified at all (in fact we are getting more and more focused all the time it seems).
  5. and also there is a legitimate decision there - you may want to do electives in two branches of internal medicine to decide if you want to go into internal medicine at all. After all for the most part with internal you are deferring your specialty choice until the R3 match (not perfectly but with the second highest match rate you mostly deciding not if you want internal but if you want a particular branch of internal ultimately). Internal med that way is pretty unique - the first match is just a stepping stone. For ophtho and most other things it is end game time.
  6. One thing I should add to this - these are not public schools like canada has. These are private colleges - and are run a bit differently. They absolutely prefer to accept people that have are children of parents that have already gone to that school. They aren't even holding back on that - and it has nothing specific to do with immediate donations (although I am sure long term it improves the amount alumni donate). There has been a bonus for things like that for ages. Not mention all the academically silly biases some of them have had about various ethic groups - flat out discrimination against people who are jewish at harvard come to mind. That school is not along with that sort of stuff. There is an active lawsuit right now at Harvard for now bias against people of asian descent. Valid case or not I am saying in general these schools haven't put students all on the same level field while pretending that was exactly what they were doing. What makes this a bit different is the parents are just flat out lying/fabricating things. Ha, just like in other fields they are seeking out any weaknesses in the system - like getting in with athletic rules or faking learning disabilities to gain an advantage according to one of the articles I read on it.
  7. this is a problem - I wouldn't say so much as its a con but rather something that just talked about enough. All the information is out there, and has been for a long time but most sources of information for premeds don't really discuss it. In a 3 hours how to get into medical school I usually spend about 45 minutes just talking about pros and cons - more the cons actually as the pros most people already kind of know. People wonder why but it is important I think to go into this eyes open. You are not going to be able to quite often say exactly where you will work, or even if you will work in a "big city", and you may have to fight for a bit to get where you want to go even if you do eventually end up there.
  8. The usual list to fill in : Anatomical Pathology: Anesthesiology: Cardiac Surgery: Dermatology: Diagnostic Radiology: Emergency Medicine: Family Medicine: General Pathology: General Surgery: Hematological Pathology: Internal Medicine: Medical Genetics and Genomics: Medical Microbiology: Neurology: Neurology - Paediatric: Neuropathology: Neurosurgery: Nuclear Medicine: Obstetrics and Gynaecology: Ophthalmology: Orthopaedic Surgery: Otolaryngology: Pediatrics: Plastic Surgery: PM&R: Psychiatry: Public Health and Preventive Medicine: Radiation Oncology: Urology: Vascular Surgery:
  9. well there is now I suppose I will pin this up and people can list things here. Good to luck to any second rounder - fight the good fight!
  10. Ha, the entire point is to somehow make it look like your child earned the spot. If you just dump cash at the school it is too obvious. True wealth is supposed to be subtle, not ostentatious. It is a wink, a nod, and a simple smile. This is something else - and worse it commits the ultimate sin, getting caught These private schools - so much on a name that doesn't actually improve the educational outcome. That is coming from someone currently at one of those schools. The idea that they make some sort of huge outcome in the end is over blown - simply because the end companies are well aware that just because you went to yale doesn't mean you are all that smart, and they need smart people.
  11. rmorelan

    This Is Insane

    yeah there would be checks - I mean one this the adcoms really do know all the tricks - they know them because they used to be premeds, and often not that long ago either. There is a high rate of detection of BS.
  12. rmorelan

    This Is Insane

    You don't have to - they all talk among themselves. I am sure it isn't a surprise that protecting the integrity of the system is of great importance to them. in cases where you think they may not know, some people have used anonymous email accounts etc.
  13. rmorelan

    This Is Insane

    .....and we are removing those for large part for exactly that issue of privacy. Although there is some lag in the removal.