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  1. I think you get a lot of people are apply to OT as a back up for PT, because the GPA requirements tend to be a bit lower. So it wouldn't make a lot of sense to "back up" your OT application with a PT one, if you were feeling like your OT application was potentially weak. PT is hard to get into these days. Extremely hard. If I was an aspiring PT, I think it's pretty easy to look at OT and see appealing aspects, like hand therapy. I also think a big contributor to the trend is that OT attracts a bit wider of set of backgrounds and experiences - I know I went into because of my interest in mental health, for example. PT was never something I even considered, and I imagine that applies to a lot of my classmates. Finally, it seems like PT in general has more requirements (i.e. I think Dal is one of the few OT schools that has both anatomy and physiology as pre-reqs for OT). If you have geared your application and course selection towards OT, it's not a given that you've taken the PT pre-reqs.
  2. Good question @AlexFox. Unfortunately, I couldn't find the answer digging through the Dal website. When I was admitted, I had also not completed my 6 credit physiology course. I did my undergrad at Dal, so a lot of this is dependent on your school. I had a grade for the first semester of my physiology course on my transcript (I believe...It's been a while) even though I had not completed the course. And this was used with my anatomy grade to calculate my pre-req GPA. When I was accepted (prior to completing the course), it said my acceptance was conditional on maintaining a B- average in my physiology course (or pre-req GPA, or something like that).
  3. I wrote a fairly long comment a while ago about Dal OT, if you look on my profile. In general, to play it safe, go to school where you want to work as an OT. However, I certainly didn't, and it didn't stop me from landing a job in my home province of Ontario. OT education in Canada is top notch, regardless of where you go. What is most important or interesting to you, when considering Queens vs Dal, that you would like to know more about? Congrats on your acceptance!
  4. Hopplah

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    I had a 3.88/4.3 (or around that, it wasn't above a 3.9) when I was admitted in the 2015 application cycle. I'm from Ontario and don't identify as black/First Nations/having a disability. I had heard from the upper years that the average was a 3.6 something their year. Oh and about a third of my class had a disability of some type and identified as such on the application. Other that that, they keep a pretty tight lid on admissions stats.
  5. I know you asked about Ontario schools, but for anyone else reading who is interested about Dalhousie - PT (and OT) do dissection based anatomy. PT and OTs do the same anatomy class, and you work in groups of 5-6 (mixed PT/OT groups) per cadaver throughout the semester. There are also prosections available for studying too. Always interesting to hear how other schools teach it! I think the IPE way Mac does it sounds interesting. I had some classmates who absolutely couldn't stomach the dissection aspect and just studied off of prosections!
  6. Absolutely there is a market within the private sector! I wasn't aware of it until I started applying to jobs, because a lot of the private work is province specific and behind the scenes. We all see PT clinics in our communities, but these very often also have OT services as well, often advertised as "Rehab" or "Motor Vehicle Accident Rehab". For Ontario specifically, a lot of OT in the community used to be done through Community Rehab departments in hospitals. Now, OHIP (through the Local Health Integration Networks that manage community care in all of Ontario) pay private companies for OT,SLP,PT, and social work services within the community. These are private jobs, and often hire new grads, and bit "behind the scenes" if you haven't worked or studied in Ontario. The majority of OTs do work within the public sector, but there is definitely a market within the private one.
  7. The DPT/DOT degree in the US is not the equivalent of a PhD in PT/OT/Rehab Science in Canada. It is an entry to practice doctorate, like a PharmD. There is no indication, to my knowledge, that any OT/PT schools in Canada are thinking of switching to an entry to practice doctorate degree. I agree with everything PT2MD said - while I do know of some faculty members without PhDs, it seems that they are a dying breed.
  8. I graduated from Dalhousie and had a job offer in the GTA within 3 weeks of starting my job search in July. Full time with benefits, but not in my desired practice area. I would say 1/3 of my class had a job before graduation in June. I work with several new grads as well. So I would say the job market is stronger than I thought in Ontario, as I was preparing for a 4-5 month job search. I know there is a trend towards part time and casual positions, but if you are willing to work in any practice area (including private), then I think you can find full time. BC and Alberta seem to have very, very strong job markets at the moment. I know many people working hospital jobs, school OT jobs - roles that are harder to come by in other regions. I'm not sure about central Canada, the territories, or Quebec. Newfoundland and PEI seem to be the strongest in Atlantic Canada. NS is okay, but Halifax is very difficult. A lot people who graduate from Dal stay in Halifax, so the market is pretty saturated.
  9. I did my BSc in neuroscience, and my class had a pretty big variety of backgrounds. The pre-req courses for each school are selected for a reason - if you have those, you will be able to manage the OT curriculum (though it will definitely be a steep learning curve!). We had everything from a few Bachelors in Fine Arts, Bachelors of Arts in english, political science, anthropology, to the more typical majors of kin and psychology. To answer your question, kin and psychology seem to be the most common ones people generally take for OT. I didn't know a lot of nursing students, but I have known some. OT/PT/Speech does have the advantage of 9-5 working hours over nursing, so I imagine that could pull some of them towards a career change.
  10. It's so hard to say what it takes to improve an application - even after I got in, we were completely clueless about average entering GPA etc. I would definitely email the school directly about your concerns with upgrading your courses, especially because you do have such good grades in that semester that would be bumped out. I do know that academic references count for a lot, and that non-academic references are considered more highly if you have been out of school for several years (Carmel said this to me at a recruitment session the year I was applying). My two references were unrelated to my BSc undergrad, and were not professors I had done research with, but they were still able to speak to my academic ability and suitability for OT. There is a recruitment session coming up, that I saw posted on the Da OT FB page: Join us for the Dal@OT recruitment information sessions, Thursday and Friday, August 17 and 18th, 2017 via email: otadmissions@dal.caOur recruitment officer, Carmel O'Keefe, will be in the School of OT at Dal, second floor of the Forrest Building, and devoted to answering your questions regarding the application process, meeting with you personally for 15-minute appointments, or directing you in finding out more about our profession. To complement this 2-day session, view the recruitment video (see attached), explore our website occupationaltherapy.dal.ca, or peruse our Facebook page <Dal School of OT> We will be holding similar sessions to answer your questions on: November 29, 2017 December 1, 2017 January 19 and 22, 2018 We look forward to hearing from you! What I learned from this session when I went was that they look at 1) GPA 2) Pre-req GPA 3) References. And, that amongst your references, academic > non-academic, except for people 5+ years out of school. They revise their admissions process every year, so I would definitely go again even if you have been in the past, to see if anything has changed and how you can update your application. Good luck! I really hope you get in, applying is stressful!
  11. @HopefulNSOT I did a whole fifth year, and delayed my graduation to do so, so I didn't use those courses for upgrading. However, I would definitely still recommend the disability management courses at Dal for the purposes of upgrading. Of the four courses, I found 4010 Case Management to be the most challenging, because it involves group work, which can be difficult to do over Skype with people in different provinces/time zones. The other three I would rank about equally - maybe 3-4 hours of work per week in order to engage in the discussions and complete the work. I was happy with the As I achieved, but I think A+s would be very achievable if you were to put in slightly more effort than I did lol. I have also done two of courses while working full time, to give you can idea of their demands (they're manageable). I would also highly, highly recommend getting the recommended text for those courses, if you do take them. I also found DISM courses to be highly relevant to OT practice/school, especially the legal aspects, and return to work planning.
  12. @RH2OT Dal OT has specific requirements about what courses you can use for upgrading your GPA. https://www.dal.ca/content/dam/dalhousie/pdf/faculty/faculty-health-professions/occupational-therapy/MScOT_Supplementary_Application_Form_2017.pdf Part III says that courses taken after graduating to upgrade your GPA must be at the 3rd or 4th year level. I did some Disability Management courses online through Dal and found them to fairly easy As, and they are all at the 3000/4000 level. Good luck!
  13. Starting pay in NS is 29 an hour for the health authority here (aka all hospital jobs in the province). Lowest in the country. Yay.... I've seen a lot of jobs starting at 36 an hour in Alberta, and 32 to 33 in Ontario. At the upper range, I've seen around 48-52 an hour (but you need a lot of experience I assume), and even some 40ish an hour ones for less experienced OTs in rural areas. And this is only for jobs with OT as the title. I've also seen non-OT specific jobs (i.e. like case manager, mental health counsellor) where they require an OT or RN or MSW for similar.
  14. Facebook group should be up by late July, once the first years are back from fieldwork and get going on the Orientation Committee. You definitely don't need a car. The bus system is alright - they've made some improvements in the last few years and it's better than ever, but still not great. You get a bus pass with your student ID. For fieldwork, having a car can open up some more rural/community-based options (i.e. that involve more home visits) for you, but you don't need one. They will be able to find something that is reachable by public transit for you, but it may be a far bus ride. Or it could be a different city, since a lot of small towns in the maritimes don't have public transportation. And for daily life, every you could need is easily reachable via bus, even great hiking spots.
  15. Our class is super, super diverse! About a third of my class comes from outside of Atlantic Canada. I think we have around 20-25 spots available for out of region students. I'm originally from Ontario and I love it out here. Because we are generally sending people to the same cities and towns, people often ask the people who went there last year for tips. The people in our classes from there originally usually have a lot of connections to smooth out the process as well. And the preceptors in the smaller, really rural locations know it can be difficult to arrange housing and help with that. They also would never send you to a really insane location without running it by you first, like Labrador. Setting up housing out of Halifax can end up being a nuisance/annoyance, especially if you are trying to put that together last minute during exams before fieldwork begins, but it doesn't seem to be a huge burden (however, I haven't had to do it personally!). When you rank your placements, you rank your top 5 preferred practice areas, and top 5 preferred locations. You can be as specific or as general as you want for either of those, and they tell you to indicate if practice area or location is more important, and then they (try) to place us all based on that. For my placements I got my top practice area every time, in Halifax for all of them, so it can work out! Two pediatrics, one mental health, and one neuro/hand therapy. 2 of them were in a hospital. I'm thrilled with that mix! The job outlook for Halifax is not amazing to be honest. I don't think there's a health program besides nursing where the Halifax market is great for new grads. But Atlantic Canada as whole seems strong. I'm not applying for jobs out here, but a lot of people from here have been interviewing (especially in NB) and I know of a handful of people who have jobs lined up in the region. But there's definitely a trend emerging in my class in which the people who have jobs lined up are moving to Alberta or BC. I know of people who have had to stay in Halifax have ended up in non-OT jobs (i.e. like disability case management, or case coordination) before getting an actual OT job. It's hard to get hired into a hospital in Halifax as a new grad. You can do (some of) certificates concurrently, but not many people do, and the school doesn't really advertise them to us. You will have to pay extra tuition to take the courses as well. I completed the Certificate in Disability Management during OT school because I'd like to work in Toronto, and I'm hoping this certificate can help give me a little more flexibility in the job hunt. I had already started it in my undergrad, so I just needed two courses to finish it. I had to get permission from the school to do so (not difficult), but other than that, it was not hard. I did the two courses during my fieldwork and found the workload manageable. EDIT: I just looked up the one you mentioned, and I think it might be specifically for after you have your license, but the application requirements make it seem like you only need a Bachelors to register. I would probably just send them an email about it! I also went back and actually looked at how many people stayed in Halifax for our first placement last semester - around 23 which is a third of our class. Which is quite high considering that many of the NB, NL, PEI students can and do want to go back to their home provinces. So I think for placements you need to be prepared to move, but you also might end up in Hali for all of them.
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