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  1. Rahvin13

    Competitiveness of NP Programs

    Hey, I’ve looked into NP schools inside and outside Ontario. They don’t really give out statistics of how many applied vs accepted. From what I’ve gathered, meeting the minimum requirements definitely doesn’t guarantee admission. It also depends on your stream of choice. Neonatal and Pediatric streams are more competitive than Family or Adult, with family being least competitive. Also some schools are more competitive than others, I’ve heard that U of T NP for example the average GPA for accepted applicants is in the 3.8 range. I believe most all NP schools in Canada require the equivalent of 2 years experience which must be completed before starting the program. You don’t actually have to take 2 calendar years to do this though. I’m not sure if applicants are assessed competitively based on their straight hours of practice or if it’s simply a cutoff. May depend on the school. As far as i know, Peds/Neonatal programs “highly recommend” the hours be in those fields.
  2. For those suggesting NP, you will be extremely hard pressed to find a NP program who will admit a 2.3 nursing gpa, I don’t know of any in Canada honestly (I’m a RN who is debating between NP and MD). Most programs require a 3.0-3.5 minimum. And usually the minimum won’t get you accepted. I don’t actually think that’s an option for OP anyways. OP in my opinion if you want to pursue med in Canada or US you will need a second undergrad or enough full time credits in a 2nd undergrad to improve your gpa to an acceptable level. Even overseas/carrib schools will be hard to get accepted with a 2.3.
  3. Only admissions can really tell you that. The equivalent of 30 credit hours each in the last 2 years is the standard requirement however they do make case by case exceptions for special circumstances or programs. 28 seems like a strange number of hours?
  4. Could you break down your gpa by year, and what exactly is your cGPA? That would help with suggestions. I can’t really speak for suggestions on programs or length because I didn’t go to school in Ontario. Working full time and attending university full time while trying to get a 3.85+ gpa will probably not work out. Not even taking into account scheduling issues you’ll have. You could probably work part time/casual but your priority needs to be gpa and full time course load, that’s why you’re considering this and will be shelling out the cost. I’m a second degree person and don’t at all come from money so I know that could be stressful to hear/do.
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    Advice and opinions wanted: Masters degree - Pharmacology

    I wonder if a MSc in pharmacology would give you a tiny bit of an edge in applying to some residencies when the time comes. I think anesthesia has a pretty large pharmacology component. And obviously FM and IM + sub specialties too. I’m purely speculating here. It wouldn’t hurt you though.
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    UofA Indigenous Student Admissions Thoughts

    Dalhousie does the same thing and has for a while. All Indigenous Maritime, and African-Nova Scotian applicants are offered a seat provided they meet the minimum cutoffs in each area. I also agree that it’s absolutely the right thing to do and is needed. And it shouldn’t be thought of as “token seats” in any way imo.
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    Taking a break...

    I took an accelerated nursing program after my 1st degree and have to recommend (maybe with some bias) option 2. You may also find that if you study something you like i.e healthcare related, you may naturally do better. I’m graduating from nursing next Saturday with a 4.0 gpa, after also doing many of the things you described in my 1st degree, and finishing with less than a 3.0. Nursing can be a lot of material and some subjective grading but it’s entirely possible to do very well. And with a nursing degree you can still apply to MD if you do well enough, or NP, or go into nursing/healthcare management. So many different possibilities there. And if you wanted to have a career as a staff nurse in a specific field, that’s great too. Saying that, I also agree with the others and will say please just do whatever will makes you feel the best. That’s always the best option.
  8. Definitely not. Nursing isn’t a traditional premed but schools don’t care. You might get asked in a panel interview about why the switch. Nursing gives great patient/clinical experience and most importantly the soft skills that schools are looking for. Should really help with essays and interviews.
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    Paramedic during Pre-Med?

    Hey, so unlike the US, med schools in Canada don’t really require or expect you to have physician shadowing or have reference letters from physicians. The vast majority of people aren’t going to have that. They more want to see that you have knowledge of the physicians role in the health system through your own research, and have some experience interacting with people experiencing health challenges. Most people’s letters of reference will come from their managers, professors, principal investigators for labs they work in, or their volunteer coordinators. So don’t worry about working or volunteering in a setting where a physician would be able to write a LOR.
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    Paramedic during Pre-Med?

    Yeah I agree, I don’t think it’s very popular. Most traditional premeds get their medically related experiences through volunteering or sometimes research. You may want to check out volunteer medical responder, it requires less training and is something you could do casually, especially on weekends. Basically you provide the first aid services for community events. Another option if you really wanna try to get some clinically related employment is to try and get a position as a personal care worker/orderly at a long term care facility. Usually you have to be some sort of allied health student to get these jobs, but I know of a few people in kinesiology and med sci who have gotten them. Frankly, some of these places are desperate for casual evening and weekend workers and it all depends on how you sell yourself and your skills and experiences.
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    Paramedic during Pre-Med?

    So you’re thinking about doing paramedic before undergrad and then working casual/part time during undergrad is what I gather? I’m unsure about the different requirements for paramedic education throughout the provinces but I would be very surprised if you could become a fully qualified primary care/level 1 paramedic in only 4 months. I’d say that it would look good compared to a job with no patient contact or clinical relevance for sure. Remember though that employment is only one possible EC and although work as a paramedic may be a good one in that regard, you will definitely need more than just that. As for the money side of it, think about cost-benefit first. Will you make back the cost of becoming a paramedic in a reasonable amount of time to make it worth incurring that debt?
  12. Emergency medicine or pediatrics with a pediatric emergency fellowship maybe? You could work in a peds only emerg, which would almost certainly be shift work. I'm sure the fellowships and staff positions are very competitive though.
  13. I think that’s a pretty loaded question. The simple answer is why any university is really ranked as a “top university.” Financial Endowment. Do you have to be good to get the money or do you need to have the money to be good. Money attracts academics who want funding for their research, and who want to work with the latest technologies and other top researchers. So if a school has a lot of money then they get a lot of competition for professorships and allocation of funds. Hence with a wider pool to choose from, they get the top candidates and best minds. However, this doesn’t always translate absolutely to the quality of education, medical or otherwise. The overall quality of medical education throughout Canada is pretty consistent. Dalhousie might have 1/5th the endowment of UofT but that certainly doesn’t mean you get 1/5th the quality of education.
  14. The raw scores are linear. So 4.0 = 15, 3.9 = 14, 3.8 = 13 etc. Minimum for IP is 8/15 and minimum for OOP is 12/15. Remember though that the actual scores are z-scored which is based on the applicant average for each stream. So in reality it’s more complicated than that.
  15. Honestly I would leave it at 850, but not because of it being an inconsistency. When you’re on call, you still are putting in the time and responsibility of responding if something happens, whether it does or not. When I was in the military, I would often have 24 hour duty and it was counted as such even if I got to sleep for some of it. I was still responsible. I’m now a student in allied health and I feel the same applies. If I’m on a 12 hour night and get to do “nothing” for a couple hours, it doesn’t mean that I wouldn’t if needed. Same with the physicians and residents I work with. You might be selling yourself short. Idk, that’s my perspective.
  16. Hey, I had a similar transcript as you in my first degree in terms of gpa (probably mine was worse) although I always had a full course load. I applied for and took a second degree in nursing with no intentions of applying to medicine, but through a couple friends who started med school in the last 2 years I became interested and started looking into admissions policies. I’m not an admissions expert by any means but I’ve done a bit of research on different schools through their admissions websites and speaking to their admissions. You probably won’t like what I have to say. Looking at your transcript and based on your gpa and course loads, you won’t be eligible or competitive to apply for most (any really) med schools in Canada. Your cumulative gpa is in the low 3s and your last 2 “full” year gpa is ~3.3 without a full course load in those years. Those numbers just aren’t high enough to be competitive/eligible which there is no shame in as there are plenty of people who did a degree and ended up with the same or worse, including myself. However, the only way to really fix that is to take additional, full-time years of undergrad in a new degree program. Just doing night classes one or two at a time isn’t going to help in your situation. Technically you’d be eligible to apply to McMaster but any chance at that would involve becoming an Ontario resident (live for 3 years in Ontario), get probably 130-132 on CARS, and get a top end Casper score. And even then it’s far from guaranteed. Basically if you’re truly serious about being competitive you’re gonna have to do what you said you wouldn’t. That might be harsh but I think most others here would agree.
  17. Yeah, Chels is correct however the term “patient contact” doesn’t need to mean in a hospital or clinic so keep that in mind. Primary prevention and other public health related activities are also a thing and can be very much medically related in terms of “patient contact” without physically laying hands on a patient. Also from what I understand, even if you check the box or leave it unchecked, the file reviewers ultimately decide if your activity is medically related or not based on an internal criteria they have. So if you check something and they don’t think it’s medically related, you don’t get punished. Similarly if they think something is medically related and you don’t indicate it on the application, they can still flag it as being so.
  18. Each of the 4 sections on the Dal supplementary application is worth 5 points for a total of 20. So the EC section is worth just as much in terms of possible points as the others. I personally wouldn’t consider a club/society as a volunteer position and would list my position/experience under the EC section. Unless that society organizes and implements “traditional” volunteer activities on a regular basis. I’m not an admissions member though so I can’t tell you for sure. When I think volunteering I think organizations such as Red Cross, Big Brothers/Big Sisters, Homeless shelters etc. and not clubs/societies.
  19. As long as the marks in math aren’t included in the number of credits that the med school is looking at. A ‘degree’ is based on credit number and meeting the program requirements. So if you switched from math to psychology, your school would take the credits you earned in math and use them to meet the elective requirements (and any core requirements if applicable) for psychology. If the med school looks at the second degree in entirety then yes those marks you had from math would count towards your gpa. It doesn’t matter if you switched programs or not because those math credits are still part of your psych degree. If the med school doesn’t look at the second degree in its entirety (like Dal, Queens, Western) then only the credits they look at will be counted. So if your last 2 years of full time study are all psych courses then your math grades wouldn’t be included in your gpa.
  20. “Would the grades I received while in the Mathematics program affect my gpa calculation for medical/dental schools even though I am now in an entirely new program?” Yes. Different med schools have different gpa calculations though so the impact of those grades vary between schools depending on where you apply. The same goes for your previous BBA, those grades could also impact your gpa depending on what med schools you apply to. Some med schools will only look at your last 2 or best 2 years of whatever the school considers a full course load. Examples are Queen’s, Western and Dal. Other med schools look at every course grade you’ve ever gotten in your gpa such as MAC. Others have different weighting schemes that will drop a certain number of courses from your gpa (if you meet the requirement for this), such as UofT. Generally you must submit transcripts from every course/degree you’ve ever completed at every university you’ve been to when you apply to med. Not doing so could result in an invalid application or rescinding of an admission offer. As an answer to your title question, no your second degree does not have to be at a different university. I don’t think that’s really what you’re asking though?
  21. I think it’s an okay idea IF the money and resources saved from closing the community ERs are used to expand the staff, resources and beds at the regional ERs/QEII or open clinics. There are 10s of thousands in rural NS without family doctors and the regional ERs simply don’t have enough beds and physician coverage to deal with the extra people that closing community ERs would bring in. In New Glasgow, the walk in clinic just “temporarily closed” and the ER is already feeling the heat from that. Level 3’s taking 4-5+ hours to be seen by a physician some days. There are no residents/PAs/NPs in these hospitals and the staff physicians are overworked big time, normally 1 staff physician in the ER from 11pm-11am for an area of 20000+ in Pictou County for example. I don’t know what the ROC is like but it’s bad here and only gonna get worse.
  22. Hey, take a look at the medical officer thread on the army.ca forums. There is lots of info there. I’m not a med student or doctor but I was in the regular forces for a few years, and have looked into MO before so I’ll tell you what I know from that perspective. There is a big difference between reserve and regular force in general and for MO’s. Reserve medical officer is people who have their own civilian practice and then work “part-time” for the forces doing various clinical or administrative things, usually onenight a week-ish plus some weekends. You are paid an hourly/daily wage during those times. There is no free education/guaranteed residency spots associated with this. You usually complete your basic training on weekends with your reserve unit and then your MO health services training in Borden Ontario. You can choose whether or not you wish to deploy. Regular force MO, you are employed full time with the forces. They pay for medical school if you’re a med student and if you’re a resident/practicing physician give you a large signing bonus. They also pay you wages as a med student on top of paying your tuition. As a reg force MO you are salaried, there is no fee for service in the forces. The pay is slightly less to substantially less than civilian physicians however there is zero overhead, they even pay all your licensing/exam fees. You also get a very very good pension along with full benefits. In the past, you were guaranteed a family residency spot (thats all they let you do out of school). You have to already be a med student/resident/physician to be accepted into the MOTP. You normally complete your basic training full time in Quebec during the summer between m1 and m2 or sometime after residency. You do MO training in Borden. You can be posted anywhere in Canada or abroad and you have no choice whether or not to go if you’re deployed. Hope that gives you some info. Most of it should be correct, check the other forum or talk to a recruiter to be sure though.
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    Spring Semester Intake Question

    Hey, I’m in a similar but a bit different situation so I’ll tell you what I know from speaking to a few schools. Do you have the winter semester (Jan-April) off? I’m in an accelerated nursing program with a January start so I won’t have 2 full semesters of September to April when I’m done (I took 15 credits between May-August for 2 summers). I was concerned with the more 2nd degree friendly schools so only spoke to those. Queens told me they will ONLY look at Sept-April for their 2 year gpa but will consider any courses taken outside that time in their cumulative gpa. UWO said they look at non-traditional start dates on a “case by case” basis. I took that as it was and didn’t push for further details. Dal also said they look at non-traditional program formats case by case however you need a letter from your program explaining the format and that you completed the program in the normal amount of time/are able to work at the capacity of a full course load. University of Calgary also says something in their application instructions about how they will consider programs with non traditional formats outside their normal requirements. So yes as rmorelan said it definitely impacts your application but schools will still consider it. If I were you I would consider taking a full course load in the fall semester as you might be able to convince some schools to look at the 8 months between May-Dec the same as Sept-April. That’s pure speculation on my part although I feel like when UWO says “case by case” they are probably looking for something like that.
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    second degree any chance to be?

    In the non-traditional/grad student sub forum there are stickied threads with tons of info on 2nd degrees as well as success stories. Give those a look.
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    Running in elections while applying

    I feel like most who are interested in politics follow that path after they have completed med school and established themselves as practicing physicians. Running a successful political campaign even at the provincial level can be expensive and people generally want to have some sort of good stable income before they do so. Would you be independent or affiliated with a party? Is there any reason why you couldn’t do med school/residency and then run for office later in your life? As a voter I think I would have more faith in someone with that level of education and “ability to care” than I would for someone who just had an undergrad/masters. Maybe that’s just me. The former premier of Nova Scotia, John Hamm was a family doc in in his hometown before he went into politics.