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  1. Agree. I grew up thinking I wanted to be a baker and that didn’t work out. So I went into investment banking, made lots of money, and didn’t like that either. For a lot of people, it’s takes a lot of personal growth and self awareness to find what they really want to do in life.
  2. I see you’re quite upset. I apologize if I was being offensive. You’re taking what I said to some extremes that I’ve never meant. Some of the points you said I also agree you. Firstly, I’m sure there are more than enough passionate people out there who are also intelligent, empathetic, and capable enough to do the job. I feel sorry for them because I think these people truly deserve a spot. I never said I that one’s life should revolve around medicine. Coasting me to means slacking off and not being interested—you have no idea how frustrating it is to work with someone that doesn’t give a shit. Also brings the morale of the team down. I agree that work life balance is crucial and no one is asking anyone to be a matyr. Personally, I always put my family first. Not sure why you thought I would think otherwise? I am in medicine and the sad reality is there is a lot of people here without passion. Hence why I said what I said. There's also a lot of bad seeds. The system does a very poor job of weeding anything out. Honestly, getting into medicine is more about luck than merit. I just feel very lucky and fortunate to be here. I find that passionate doctors care more about their patients and are overall happier people. I’ve had many “jobs” in my life time and they really sucked. Doing something without passion was so depressing for me. It took me 6 years to find out what I really wanted to do and it’s medicine. Lastly, I disagree about medicine being “just a job”. Medicine, like any job, will pervade your life in many different ways. Is medicine your first career? If it is, I hope it’s the right “job” for you. If not, that’s okay too. I hope you’ll find something that you love to do one day. Good luck.
  3. It’s kind of sad when there’s so many people who dream to be doctors only to get their spot beaten by someone who thinks of it as purely a job. Lack of passion can easily lead to job dissatisfaction and burnout.l. I’ve seen some really burnout doctors and they hate coming to work. Getting stuck working or learning from them is freaking horrible , for everyone—patients, nurses, medical admin, learners, colleagues etc. Also the concept of “coasting” through medicine is just freaking aggravating. It’s this kind of attitude that creates shitty doctors. furthermore, don’t underestimate the difficulties of family medicine. It’s an amazing specialty that requires ALOT of work and relationship building. So please do something else and leave the spot to someone who is passionate.
  4. Given the COVID situation and the impact on capacity, I think the # of electives you do in a specialty definitely won't matter as much this year. Many students in my class had this concern and it has been brought up to admins/afmc/cfms. At the moment, students in my class can't do electives of their choice because there is simply no space. People get spots based on luck. (aka IM gunners can't do IM electives and are forced to do unrelated electives). So i'd say don't worry about it at all. If you explain yourself properly in your interview, you'll be fine.
  5. No matter what happens, If you’re going to be a doctor, you’re going to live a comfortable life. If you want to be rich, do something else.
  6. Sounds like the instructor gave you explanations but instead of taking them to heart, you still think you did fine and that she was the one who wasn’t right. Attitude like that won’t get you very far in life. Giving you extra work is giving you an extra chance. It’s not because she feels that she was unreasonable. In fact, if it were me, you wouldn’t get any extra chances to make up anything. Back when I went to school, we NEVER argued grades with the prof. You get what you get. Anything more is basically entitlement. Just accept that you screwed up and do better next time. Next time, meaning, your next life situation. this sentence “ there’s nothing to take away from this experience” is bs. Just because you finished school doesn’t mean you can’t take away learnings from this experience to apply to other aspects of your life and future.
  7. It’s a B. You’re going to be okay. Take this grade as a lesson. Don’t underestimate things that seem easy. Learn what you did wrong and improve on it. Did you ask your instructor why you got a bad grade? Get their explanation and use it to grow.
  8. I am passionate about medicine and I surround myself with other classmates who are also passionate about medicine. I’m enjoying medical school and am motivated to study. I definitely see people in my class who are in medicine for the money and prestige. These classmates still do very well because they are intelligent, but I also find some of them are already burning out because they hate the studying, intense schedule, the paper work, and dealing with difficult patients. I think it depends on you as a person and what you’re willing to put up with. You mentioned that your passions won’t end up well career wise, what are those passions? When I first graduated many years ago, I went into a career just for the money (Investment banking). I made a lot of money but was burnt out and super unhappy. I ended up quitting. I’m glad I switched out and did something I was passionate about. I’m happy now. I wish you the best.
  9. If you have no passion for medicine and don’t like the idea of death, I’d say don’t do medicine.
  10. You definitely sound really burnt out. I think it would be good to chat with a counsellor. Also, being on clinical rotations is very different than studying in pre-clerkship. You should try that out first before quitting, you might like it a lot.
  11. I think with proper communication litigation can be avoided. At the end of the day, it’s up to the patient to decide whether or not they want to to the ER. You shouldn’t tell them to go, you should provide them with the pros and cons and explain to them your rationale. if you said, “ I know you feel fine, And the risk of you actually having a PE is low, I still think it’s a good idea to run some tests at the ER just to be sure because of xyz reasons.” Same in the case of a sick kid. If you give proper instructions for returning to clinic or going to ER, you shouldn’t be sued. “Currently, your child’s vitals signs are stable, and the symptoms are likely caused by a viral urti, however, if your child’s condition worsens, aka Less wet diapers, becoming lethargic, not drinking etc, make sure you go to ER right away. if you document and communicate properly, you probably won’t be sued.
  12. You’re definitely not too old. Good luck on your new degree!!
  13. Completely agree. Some of my best preceptors have come from Caribbean Medical schools. With this said, I'm sure these same preceptors would have been able to enter a Canadian Medical School without a doubt. However, their life circumstances inevitably forced them to pursue the more difficult international route. They also told me they had a really rough time coming back to Canada. If you have a choice, stay in Canada.
  14. I'm sorry to hear about your parents. I'm not sure if going the international route would make it faster for you to become a doctor. Matching into residency as an international student is not easy. Since your parents are sick, I'd assume you want to be near them and take care of them? Do your parents live in Canada? If so, going international and trying to match back to Canada may take even longer. You'd also likely not match back to Canada--you'd have higher chances matching the US. Therefore, you might not be able to live close to your parents in the future. Furthermore, the reason why the matching process is so important is because your medical degree would be useless without a residency position. You cannot become an independent practicing doctor without it. Your GPA from high school wont matter. It's your university grades that you need to use to apply to medical school. Also, I wouldn't be so quick to say that you won't get a good MCAT score. I think you should try taking the exam first. Furthermore, going international would place a huge financial burden on you and your family. Have you thought about how you would finance your international education? Living expenses, moving costs, tuition--It's hundreds of thousands of dollars -->all of this is many times more expensive than Canada.
  15. What is your reason for going international?
  16. We call them horizontals at Mac and all of them have been cancelled because of Covid. Admin is struggling to even place just my class (2021) in clerkship, so I doubt you'll be allowed to do them any time soon. When they do permit them again, the seconds years will have priority over first years. Currently, the second years have had all their electives and horizontals cancelled because of capacity. They don't get to start until January 2021. Sorry to be a messenger of bad news, but on the bright side, you won't be missing out much. I barely did any horizontals myself and many of classmates haven't either. You can try to discover what kind of career you like by messaging upper years, residents and preceptors. You'll also get chance to explore during actual clerkship as well.
  17. I think it really comes down to your attitude, willingness to learn, and being respectful to all those around you. When it comes to medical knowledge, I always feel like I know nothing when I start a rotation. However, If you’re positive, interested, and respectful, you’ll do well in whatever rotation you’re in. Nurses and patients will praise you in front your preceptors and your preceptor will likely give you good feedback on evals/ offer to write you reference letters.
  18. In short, I think if you want more money, there are easier/better ways to make it than becoming a doctor.
  19. I used osmosis to prepare for tutorials in preclerkship. The videos are concise and entertaining, great for visual learners. I guess whether or not something is necessary depends on your learning style and what you learned in your science background. Did you have an undergrad degree that focused on pathophysiology, diagnosis and treatment? If you did, then probably not necessary I guess. Do you like reading text books more than watching videos? Then Osmosis is also probably not for you. Honestly, in medicine, there are so many resources out there. As long as you study well with what you have, it doesn't matter what you use. Everyone's learning style is different, so best to know what style you are and choose the medium that suits you best.
  20. I agree. You should definitely apply! In my opinion, being 50/50 mix does not make you any less of either race! I think it's amazing to be a mix of 2 cultures--you'll provide such an interesting perspective to your classmates! Good luck!! I hope you get in!
  21. Agree with the above posters. I think there's some battles that are worth fighting for and some others that are not. If it doesn't affect your authorship or your ref letter, I'd say let it go...I'm sure the doc had her reasons. Though I am sorry to hear that there's someone who did no work and ended up getting their name on your paper though. That sucks.
  22. This research is BS. I don’t think there’s ANYTHING wrong with doctors drinking alcohol or wearing bikinis when they are not working. Doctors are human too and it’s called having a LIFE.
  23. I think in your 5 year plan you should also factor in that even after getting your degree and mcat done, you still may need to apply 3+ times before getting in. Also, just applying to 1-3 schools is very risky. You should get a proper degree and apply as broadly as you can. I was working full time prior to applying medicine and actually quit my job so I could study full-time. In the last year before quitting, I saved up a bunch of money and then lived off savings. Also in medicine, to be a successful doctor, i think it's more about interpersonal skills and knowing how to talk to people rather than about the science...the humanity aspect is key...at least that's what I've realized so far from my clinical rotations and what my preceptors have been telling me. If you want a very creative and highly scientific career perhaps there are other choices out there for you. Furthermore, regarding job stability, it really depends on the specialty that you go in to. I know many in ortho, internal sub specialties, and other surgical specialties that have lots of difficulty finding staff positions after residency. They have to do several fellowships before getting a full-time job ~ that's like 10+ years of studying medicine...so don't forget to factor that in too. Family medicine, however, looks quite good as a job market, but it probably doesn't have the creativity and science that you're looking for. All in all, best of luck on your journey.
  24. I'm currently in my final year of medical school and there's hasn't been a single moment where I regretted quitting investment banking. If I had stayed in IB, I would probably be making way more money than I ever would be as a doctor. However, no amount of money can replace the shitty, dreadful feeling of waking up everyday to do something that I had no passion for. It's just fucking horrible. Also, the competition in IB was cut throat; you always had to watch your back; you're easily replaced by the next person if you don't perform; you constantly have suck up to your boss; your body is destroyed by alcohol and lack of sleep; and you can be fired at any time if the market suddenly turns to shit. To me, IB sucked ass. However, if asked the same question to some of my former IB colleagues, they would probably paint you a completely picture. Some people love that kind of life and that's completely cool too. Ultimately, it comes down to your personality, values, and what gives you meaning in life. What is worth a lot to you may be worth nothing to other people and vice versa. Also, to all the people who think these other careers like tech, engineering, business or whatever is "easier" than medicine--that's just bs. I personally feel that I worked a lot harder to get into IB than to get into medicine. I also have lots of friends in engineering, tech, consulting, and real estate who are successful in their careers but stressed af. I also know quite a few who are struggling. They talk to me about their work stressors and I can't imagine going through some of the things that they go through. Ultimately, comparing IB or whatever other career to medicine is comparing apples to oranges. Every career has its own stressors and difficulties. It really depends on what you value and what you're willing to deal with.
  25. I had to do the same. If you’re so tight with your company, then best to be transparent as early as possible. Tell them now so they can have more time to prepare for your departure and you can help train the next person in your role. Tell them how grateful you are to have worked with them and be thankful for all the time they spent on you. I’m my experience, (I’ve left more than one major career), people are usually supportive and happy for you. They will be sad to see you go, but that doesn’t mean you can’t stay friends. best of luck on your new journey.
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