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  1. Result: Reject wGPA: 3.86 (~3.9+ with EC if considered) MCAT: N/A ECs: Healthcare related: 2+ years board director for mental health organization, ICU shadowing ..... Non-Healthcare related: 10+ years working in marketing and sales, including several years as executive director of company, 5+ years as an international touring and musician and band manager. So, a fair bit of leadership roles and all quite varied. Casper: finished top 10-12% in rankings for last two NTP cycles, both times. Felt pretty much this same this time around, although I did realize I misread a question midway through one scenario and ended up with a one-liner response for that. I haven't taken any courses and didn't practice; I just gave my most natural, honest responses that I could while typing reasonably fast. Year: Graduated UG in 2008 IP/OOP/International: IP Letter of EC: Yes Additional: I was a totally non-science-background NTP applicant last two cycles who was wait-listed for the interview both times. After last rejection, I decided to take a lunge by completing all 7 pre-reqs this past year to qualify in the 'traditional'/MDCM stream to increase my chances. I found myself lucky to have decided to do that since they eliminated NTP stream. So, while I am a bit gutted to not even get an interview after really going for it this past year, I'm glad I got those pre-reqs out of the way and look forward to seeing what I can do to submit a viable application next cycle. I am in my 30s, finished a BA in Arts/Humanities in my early twenties and did a bunch of things in the past decade but have been involved in more mental health and social work on a voluntary basis in past few years, leading me to seek a career in medicine. Really eager to see what the rankings are like because I have no idea what to do to change my application for next year given that my GPA and ECs aren't going to change tremendously... but what do I know!? For better or worse, Casper might be the wild card a lot of people speculate it to be. Truly happy for those with an interview, especially those who've been knocked down before in this pursuit as well as those who come from a non-trad background. Good luck to all, this round and future ones! ✌
  2. @mattysal I feel your pain. But, like @amt6500 has mentioned in another thread, the NTP was a tough pathway to get into to begin with so maybe your chances will be better with these new modifications to the MDCM. For the 3 prereqs: not sure which ones you are missing, but you can do them at Cegep (Dawson, e.g.) quite easily and affordably. If not, Athabasca offers remote courses for pretty much all prereqs - with labs - except for biology (although it is much more expensive). I haven't considered writing admissions about this. For starters, I already planned on switching to the traditional MDCM pathway before NTP was cancelled. I also don't think they'll be making any exceptions here - they announced NTP was under review since April at least. Don't give up!
  3. Thanks, @amt6500! Though I'm totally out of my league here, my gut tells me that the 'human' aspects of a physician (e.g. communication and compassion) will be the most valuable qualities as AI and other tech takes over the more quantitative and analytic parts of the profession. So, totally agree that those qualities should be sought after here. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ For the CEGEP grades, I was wondering how they get calculated into overall 'GPA' component in the MDCM/Uni stream, both for initial application and then post-interview (as pre-requisites).
  4. I agree with @amt6500 that NTP may not have been such a great option for a lot of 'non traditional' candidates anyway and I am looking on the positive side of this! I have known at least a couple of people who successfully switched streams to get in and that is something I am going to try for myself. Regarding GPA: past year NTP applicant cycles have usually seen somewhere in the ~3.85 GPA average range for successful interviewees, so it seems like low GPAs (less than 3.6) probably weren't very competitive to begin with for NTP. (On that note, does anyone know how they calculate 'GPA' with grades that are a mix of CEGEP and University courses, especially for pre-reqs?) @Premedstudent0307 I hear you there: it seems like low GPA NTPs will have a harder time. Hopefully it can be made up for with the 10% CV. Mine is about 3.75 and I'm hoping for the latter. One thing that is certain about this change is that it is really shooting down people who have non-science backgrounds (myself included) because it now compels you to do all 7 prereqs. That is at least 3 semesters of part-time studying (27 credits total if you've never done calculus) - a lot of time, especially for people who are currently in the workforce. It's a lot of energy to gamble with. McMaster's remains one of the only programs that truly doesn't discriminate against non-science applicants now. With this revision, McGill is really failing on that progressive front. Seems like they're testing out the NOSM approach with the RSPP, which I hope at least succeeds in bringing more culturally appropriate primary care physicians to areas that desperately need them in this province. So good on them for that
  5. Kudos on the interview @swtomd! I did contact admissions - their response was very vague and doesn't encourage me one way or another. PM'ing you @RD2BE
  6. Hello! Has anyone here applied first as an NTP and then again as a traditional/University applicant after having completed or redone all science prereqs? If so, any insights? Also, has anyone successfully provided a letter of EC for not having completed degree full-time in the University stream? I.e. you completed degree mostly on a full-time but had to exceptionally reduce to part-time due to extenuating circumstances? Any thoughts or insights would be great!
  7. First time poster here. Just want to contribute to the body of data that I often trawled in hopes of determining my chances in the past.... Kudos to all the invitees and good luck to all! Invite/Reject: Reject GPA: 3.72 CARS: 127 CASPer: Felt quite good: honest, articulate, sizeable and complete answers to all questions. But, not good enough to counterbalance lower GPA and CARS evidently! Who knows? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ IP, NTP, grad
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