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  1. You can find more information by going to each school's website but basically Western has had an autobiographical sketch (ABS) for a few years now and UofT just added a few essays and CASPer to their admission process.
  2. Western looks at your top 2 years and UofT drops your lowest year. Kill this year and next year and make sure you do well on the DAT. Research might not help you much unless you do a masters but the way things are going in terms of the new changes to the admissions process it could be one more thing you write about in your ABS/essays. Don't lose hope, it can be done.
  3. they'll drop your lowest year as long as it wasn't your most recently completed year (i.e. 3rd year)
  4. Of the Ontario schools, UWO takes your best 2 years out of 4 and UofT drops your lowest year as long as the lowest year wasn't the last year.
  5. Last time I heard Western does give bonus points (no one knows how much) for having a masters and they don't discriminate between thesis based and course based masters. Things might have changed though.
  6. If it's any consolation, most of the waitlist movement happened in late July to mid August last year so don't lose hope!
  7. This is your best bet if you choose to go this route OP. But consider the time and financial costs of this as well. I believe IDAP students end up paying just as much as us for 2 years as we pay in 4 years (UofT)?
  8. Sounds like you’re already leaning towards UofT. If the tuition difference isn’t substantial and you’re ok with Toronto’s higher cost of living I’d say go for it. If you’re looking for a new experience then UofT is def the place to be. In terms of quality of education and future job prospects they will pretty much be equal wherever you go. The bigger class size is actually nice like you said you have lots of people you can connect with and yes the facilities are really old but honestly it’s not that bad. UofT teaches a bit of ergonomics and I think they’re trying to implement more of it into their curriculum. I know in pre-clinical sessions some of the demos are constantly reminding you to watch your posture.
  9. Reputation really does not matter, GPA does. Go wherever will allow you to complete the pre-requisites of each school and get a high GPA. I'd recommend finding an easy kin program somewhere (no hate to kin students lol). As for not wanting to do a whole other degree it all depends how much you really want dentistry and if it's worth that much time commitment. Western looks at your best 2 years GPA but requires 4 years to be completed and UofT allows you to apply after 3 years so theres those options. It all depends how much you want it. There's one guy in our class who did 2 undergrads and applied twice before he got in. It can be done.
  10. Yes it does. But if you receive an offer of admission it will be conditional upon completing your masters defense before registration in August.
  11. Don't rewrite, no need. With your masters you'll be a shoe in assuming you don't bomb your interview. They definitely give you a bonus for having a masters, in my class theres 16 students with masters.
  12. Right but it's still more expensive to go to the US than it is to go to AUS. If you can't get into a Canadian school your best alternative is to go to AUS unless you plan on working in the states then the better option is to go to the US. In either case I would try to get into a Canadian school first.
  13. ... except US dental school is almost as expensive as going to AUS if not more
  14. Best to ask the school directly but I'm pretty sure UofT does not have any course load requirements.
  15. What kind of vibe did you get at each school during your interview? I'm obviously biased since I go to UofT but here's a response from an old thread (credit @Steins;Gate): I'll speak about U of T and include some things that many people do not consider when they begin their dental education: Pros: - Extremely progressive curriculum. We used to never learn implants in prosthodontics in second year but since these past 2 years, implants are a part of second year. Gone are microbiology and other lab sessions that proved to not be useful and now we get to do a lot more clinical assisting (i.e. real patients) in first year through our Comprehensive Care Program (CCP). ... can attest to this, as students we have a lot of say with respect to class issues (for example we had a bunch of exams rescheduled just because we voted to change the dates to make it more manageable to study) ... in CCP you also start practicing basic hygiene procedures (exploring, perio probing, plaque detection, fluoride) on student partners starting November of 1st year - Smoother transition from undergrad to dental school in first year. First year has had many modifications in order for students to feel acquainted with the workload of dental school. The exam schedule is less stressful than the way Western has their exam schedule. ... Western's exams are concentrated between december-feb whereas UofT has normal midterm/finals - Longer first year summer. First year students have 4 months of summer at U of T, while Western students don't get off until June. You can use this time to do research, shadow, travel, work, etc. This is also the very last 4 month summer of your life, so make good use of it! - Strong patient pool. Toronto and GTA's catchment is larger than London and surrounding regions. - Scholarship. Unsure of how much Western pays (I understand there are bursaries and Schulich scholarships), but U of T automatically gives us a $2,000 scholarship for being in this professional program. - Easy to find shadowing opportunities in surrounding private practices and specialty clinics at the school. Faculty and residents encourage you to shadow and some have a preference for U of T students. - Hospital rotations. You will have the opportunity to rotate through some hospitals including: Mt. Sinai, Sick Kids, Sunnybrook, and CAMH. Each hospital has different types of patients to observe and treat. - Research opportunities are very plentiful. U of T prides itself in being a didactic institution so research opportunities are always available. - No class rank. We have GPA and that is it. If you're unsure of a specialty or not... do not worry that class rank will dictate your fate. Just keep your GPA at a decent level and do not worry about comparing to others like you would at Western with class rank. ... not sure if Western still has class rank - Very few schools (I was told none in Canada) allow you to have such major input to changes at the Faculty like Toronto does. I sit on student leadership that gets the chance to speak to Faculty about issues once per 1-2 months. And some have open door policies so we can always go in and speak with them. I was told this is not the case in many other schools. - And then your typical pros like networking opportunities are more plentiful, Toronto is a bigger city and has more attractions/restaurants/places to visit and shop at, and etc. ... this is the biggest pro in my opinion, I grew up in London and it is so boring compared to Toronto. -one more point, UofT has two major dental fraternities (ZIP and AO) which offer TONS of academic resources, social/networking events, parties etc. throughout the year. Not sure if Western offers this. Cons: - Bigger class size. This isn't really a con IMO because you have a higher chance of finding people you click well with. So you can look at it either as a pro or a con. ... i see this as a big pro, imagine being in a small class and you realize there's not very many people you click well with - too bad you're stuck with them for 4 years lol - Rent is more expensive because you are in the city. ... this is the biggest con - Older facilities but they are being renovated as we speak (the cafeteria, lounge, and grad labs are all renovated). The library and auditorium will be renovated soon then the clinics. ... new library opened just this year - You may not be able to get to do the molar endo like you may at UWO but you still may be able to... it would be the luck of the draw. - It would be nice to have a bigger emphasis on wellness. We are working on this and we hope wellness will play a much larger part of the Faculty in the future. ... still in the works but has gotten slightly better
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