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  1. I agree with others that being an incoming dental student you have to remember to take one step at a time. Everyone around me has said get through first year before you look to add to your plate. However, I understand the desire to do all that you can to set yourself up for success in the future. Once school starts for you there will likely be many "lunch and learns" on a variety of topics including specialties and building your own practice. These are good baseline introductions to material and to individuals you can reach out to and ask questions one on one. If you are looking to do more before matriculation I would try to reach out specialists and ask them to coffee (virtual or otherwise right now). While the more technical side of specialties may go over your head now, you can talk about everything else involved in specializing eg. what is your daily routine like, what do you think it takes to succeed in this specialty, what are the pros and cons, why did you pick this specialty, etc. And if they are recent graduates they can talk to you about their own residency experience and the application process. Most general and specialized dentists are sitting at home right now, so it might be a good time to set a virtual meeting up!
  2. I'm a first year in the states. And it seems like the same story as U of T. First year they are doing their best accommodate us, but that doesn't mean going pass/fail or replacing exams with assignments. It means hosting online office hours and being responsive. Just because we're home doesn't mean the didactic course load should be assessed more leniently. However, our preclinical courses hands on components have been paused for the time being. And I know upper years are frustrated with the situation but there is really nothing the school can do to make things better. We need to meet certain requirements to be ready to practice as a dentist. We shouldn't be asking for requirements to be lowered, rather be given the time when this is all over to meet these requirements as efficiently as possible. In my opinion, there's not much our schools can be doing right now.
  3. The evaluation is to determine if you have enough of a science background to jump into the 4 year program instead of 5 year. If they don't believe you have enough of a foundation, you are automatically considered for the 5 year program. The 5 year program does not use the evaluation as a factor for admissions. I can't speak to if a couple topics will make or break your chances at the 4 year program. From my own experience I was able to put a course for every topic, so I know my experience isn't helpful. But at the end of the day it does not effect your chances at the 5 year program at all. I hope that's reassuring
  4. The boards are being integrated moving forward (not separated into 2 parts)! Also I just did a quick search and discovered Dalhousie is a location for the CDCA exam. Maybe this is going to become a trend at other Canadian schools as we see more collaboration with the US (eg. several schools joining the AADSAS application). This part is just speculation but there is a conversation going on about stopping patient based examinations due to the ethical implications, so things might be evolving in the future
  5. I agree your stats are enough to at least get an interview so it must come down to the subjective aspects of your application. U of T interview invites are so GPA heavy that it's a bit perplexing how you didn't even interview if there are accepted applicants with approximately the same stats. Because Western is more holistic the subjective side is likely the culprit for them. Are there any red flags you can think of? Perhaps a bad reference letter you weren't aware of, weak personal statement (rushed, unoriginal, bad intent), any issues from undergrad that may show up on your transcript, maybe a bad Casper score for U of T, or possibly even some social media red flag? Perhaps you over looked a prerequisite or didn't adhere to the full load requirements set by each school? Miscalculated your GPA conversions putting it lower than you thought? That's a lot of issues, going through them and using the process of elimination can help narrow your scope for improvement. It's a long shot but I would try to get in touch and ask admissions of each school directly what you can do to be a better applicant and better prepare yourself to be a successful dental student. Best case scenario, you know exactly what needs to be addressed. Worst case scenario, they know you're committed to dentistry and their school by showing continued interest.
  6. That's true for all international dentists. Except the bottom line cost of going to Australia, New Zealand, or Ireland for 4/5 years and then 2 years in the US will be the highest of any other options in the world for practicing general dentistry. We're talking at least $500,000 Canadian but probably more like $600,000 for tuition alone, not including living costs. The incentive of going abroad to such an expensive program is that it is sufficient training to start working where you want to live. This is probably why we don't see a lot of students from those programs in the IS 2 year programs
  7. If they are doing rolling admissions like the US there will be frequent interview days every few weeks with invites going out about month before each respective interview. US schools can have interviews going till March or April until their class is solidified. If UBC is doing the same, anticipating when the next round is going to be sent out is going to give you more anxiety than it is worth. Hang tight guys!
  8. I agree the agreement's language seems ambiguous and somewhat misleading. My interpretation is that they recognize schools directly accredited by the agency that is CDAC, not indirectly by another agency (ADC). In your earlier post its says "In addition, the following general dentistry programs are also considered accredited: Effective March 30, 2010, general dentistry programs accredited by CDAC or the Australian Dental Council (ADC)." I think that "or" may indicate that Australian schools can be accredited by the ADC and be recognized as accredited, but it was not actually accredited by the agency that is CDAC. Seems very arbitrary I know, but it may account for CODA not seeing Australian schools as being accredited by CDAC. I would still encourage you to reach out to CODA yourself for further clarification.
  9. I found this on an American dental forum. This post was made in 2010 when the agreement was newly in place. I think this definitively states Aussie graduates cannot practice in the US as of right now. I have seen that some Australian schools are looking for CODA (US) accreditation so this may change: Just to clarify, I e-mailed the ADA's accreditation section the question of whether the ADC and CDAC agreement had an indirect effect . They said:"Your message was forwarded to me as I am the accreditation manager for international accreditation. The reciprocity agreement between CDAC and Australia does not extend to the United States and the Commission on Dental Accreditation (CODA). The reciprocity agreement that CODA has with CDAC only covers Canadian programs. CODA does have policies and procedures in place for accrediting established international predoctoral education programs. Information and guidelines for that process is on the web at: http://www.ada.org/116.aspx"
  10. I had a similar situation as you with one C+ and (and 4 B range grades) and I was accepted into the 4 year program. Even if it was impactful (which I don't think it will be) it would defer you to the 5 year program where the evaluation is not used
  11. Last year came out March 5th 9:20am
  12. When applying last year an Atlantic Bridge representative emailed me saying as follows: The statistics vary from year to year, depending on the candidate pool each year. In essence, the most competitive applicants each year will receive the limited offers, that is probably why it’s difficult to gather those information. I would say above 3.3 is probably starting to get into the competitive range. Back to me: Atlantic Bridge asks for your cGPA with nothing dropped on a 4.0 scale as well as your transcript. Each school likely has their own algorithms for assessing grades but there isn't much information about that. I know Cork also really seems to care about how well you did in courses they consider a prerequisite to dentistry (at least for the 4 year program, otherwise they consider you for the 5 year program). Unfortunately, it appears your GPA is too far below the competitive range to have a realistic chance of being accepted to an Irish dental school. If I were you I would try to investigate if any abroad schools look at your two best or two most recent years to see if there are any other options.
  13. Until recently they didn't look at the PAT, so previous applicants other than last year don't really help
  14. Western has just recently started looking at all sections. They used to just look at AA and RC. Their cutoff for RC varied year to year between 18 and 19 depending on the applicant pool. Now that they've updated their DAT assessment there isn't much to go on. However, when schools say they care about a DAT section (or say they care about all sections) I've never seen someone with a 17 or less in said section get accepted. It might be possible but I think it's an easy red flag schools use to start whittling down the applicant pool. Would love to hear if anyone has a story to prove me wrong though
  15. I agree, I believe American dental schools including specialty programs are well regarded and shouldn't make it difficult to come back. My only concern would be networking. For hospital-based specialties, hospitals may be more likely to hire from their own associated programs because they know the quality of their program and the residents in them. For practice based specialties, faculty members are important resources as potential employers or an important contacts for connecting you with potential employers.
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