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  1. That's true for all international dentists. Except the bottom line cost of going to Australia, New Zealand, or Ireland for 4/5 years and then 2 years in the US will be the highest of any other options in the world for practicing general dentistry. We're talking at least $500,000 Canadian but probably more like $600,000 for tuition alone, not including living costs. The incentive of going abroad to such an expensive program is that it is sufficient training to start working where you want to live. This is probably why we don't see a lot of students from those programs in the IS 2 year programs
  2. If they are doing rolling admissions like the US there will be frequent interview days every few weeks with invites going out about month before each respective interview. US schools can have interviews going till March or April until their class is solidified. If UBC is doing the same, anticipating when the next round is going to be sent out is going to give you more anxiety than it is worth. Hang tight guys!
  3. I agree the agreement's language seems ambiguous and somewhat misleading. My interpretation is that they recognize schools directly accredited by the agency that is CDAC, not indirectly by another agency (ADC). In your earlier post its says "In addition, the following general dentistry programs are also considered accredited: Effective March 30, 2010, general dentistry programs accredited by CDAC or the Australian Dental Council (ADC)." I think that "or" may indicate that Australian schools can be accredited by the ADC and be recognized as accredited, but it was not actually accredited by the agency that is CDAC. Seems very arbitrary I know, but it may account for CODA not seeing Australian schools as being accredited by CDAC. I would still encourage you to reach out to CODA yourself for further clarification.
  4. I found this on an American dental forum. This post was made in 2010 when the agreement was newly in place. I think this definitively states Aussie graduates cannot practice in the US as of right now. I have seen that some Australian schools are looking for CODA (US) accreditation so this may change: Just to clarify, I e-mailed the ADA's accreditation section the question of whether the ADC and CDAC agreement had an indirect effect . They said:"Your message was forwarded to me as I am the accreditation manager for international accreditation. The reciprocity agreement between CDAC and Australia does not extend to the United States and the Commission on Dental Accreditation (CODA). The reciprocity agreement that CODA has with CDAC only covers Canadian programs. CODA does have policies and procedures in place for accrediting established international predoctoral education programs. Information and guidelines for that process is on the web at: http://www.ada.org/116.aspx"
  5. I had a similar situation as you with one C+ and (and 4 B range grades) and I was accepted into the 4 year program. Even if it was impactful (which I don't think it will be) it would defer you to the 5 year program where the evaluation is not used
  6. Last year came out March 5th 9:20am
  7. When applying last year an Atlantic Bridge representative emailed me saying as follows: The statistics vary from year to year, depending on the candidate pool each year. In essence, the most competitive applicants each year will receive the limited offers, that is probably why it’s difficult to gather those information. I would say above 3.3 is probably starting to get into the competitive range. Back to me: Atlantic Bridge asks for your cGPA with nothing dropped on a 4.0 scale as well as your transcript. Each school likely has their own algorithms for assessing grades but there isn't much information about that. I know Cork also really seems to care about how well you did in courses they consider a prerequisite to dentistry (at least for the 4 year program, otherwise they consider you for the 5 year program). Unfortunately, it appears your GPA is too far below the competitive range to have a realistic chance of being accepted to an Irish dental school. If I were you I would try to investigate if any abroad schools look at your two best or two most recent years to see if there are any other options.
  8. Until recently they didn't look at the PAT, so previous applicants other than last year don't really help
  9. Western has just recently started looking at all sections. They used to just look at AA and RC. Their cutoff for RC varied year to year between 18 and 19 depending on the applicant pool. Now that they've updated their DAT assessment there isn't much to go on. However, when schools say they care about a DAT section (or say they care about all sections) I've never seen someone with a 17 or less in said section get accepted. It might be possible but I think it's an easy red flag schools use to start whittling down the applicant pool. Would love to hear if anyone has a story to prove me wrong though
  10. I agree, I believe American dental schools including specialty programs are well regarded and shouldn't make it difficult to come back. My only concern would be networking. For hospital-based specialties, hospitals may be more likely to hire from their own associated programs because they know the quality of their program and the residents in them. For practice based specialties, faculty members are important resources as potential employers or an important contacts for connecting you with potential employers.
  11. Your stats are definitely favourable and should get you very far. My advice at this point is if you get an interview, to really communicate your interest in dentistry. To add to this narrative I would look into shadowing between now and interviews to provide evidence that you have seriously contemplated life as a dentist. If for whatever reason you end up reapplying, I would say to make sure you spend time crafting a PS that is convincing that you will be a good dentist. Dental schools don't want to be a fallback to medicine. They want to know that you have the specific skills to excel in dentistry and see the necessary passion to go along with it.
  12. Each school should have their own acceptable courses based on which undergrad you are going/went to. I recommend reaching out to each school you are applying to. I emailed western and they gave me 3 possible combinations of courses they would accept from my undergrad to serve as my biochem prerequisite.
  13. Historically yes to 18-19 as an RC cutoff. My guess is scoring below 18 on any section puts you in hot water. Last year they changed their website to say they look at all sections instead of being more specific.
  14. I see your logic as well. I guess it depends on the applicant. If your stats are stellar than I completely agree. For applicants who are on the low end of Western's competitive numbers then you're not even close to the competitive range to be an out of province candidate elsewhere. If this is you and your goal is to get in first round to not delay 100K salary, I would look into applying to other schools that you have an actual chance of getting accepted to like Canadian friendly US schools. All I'm saying is $1200 pays off only if you actually get in. I think applying to out of province schools for many people does not improve their chances at all because the threshold is so much higher as out of province.
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