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  1. That is definitely something I'm considering doing - perhaps writing the MCAT next spring/summer and applying after my first year. Of course, if I did get into an MD program part way through vet school it would sure feel like I'd put myself through an enormous and unnecessary hardship & expense when I could have just continued working in my current job while apply to MD programs....but it might be the safest approach. I don't know your reasons for wanting to switch from dentistry to medicine, but I definitely think vet med and dentistry share some similar challenges that aren't present in human medicine (business aspect, corporatization, oversupply). Good luck with your med school applications!
  2. Thank you for taking the time to respond to each of my points! With regards to the above, I'm sure GPs have their share of rude, demanding, entitled patients, but for me the key difference is that a family doc doesn't have to cater to these patient's needs in order to remain employed. After all, if a disgruntled patient decides to find another doctor, there will be no shortage of patients who are eager to take his/her place. For me, it would be very comforting to know that I can simply be myself without having to put on a show, so to speak, in order to impress clients/patients and stay afloat financially.
  3. Thanks for your reply but I don't understand what you mean by "5 years in pro rice". What is pro rice, and what 5 years are you referring to?
  4. I'm about to start vet school (in Canada) but I'm considering declining the opportunity in order to apply to human medicine in the future. This is not a sudden change of heart, I've debated between the two careers for years and was planning to apply to med school had I not been accepted into vet school on my first attempt. Here are my main concerns: 1. I'm much more interested in the human body (its anatomy, physiology, diseases, etc.) than I am in other species. I like the idea of working with animals, but I'm not particularly interested in how they are put together. I have zero interest in the large animal/food production aspect of vet med, which is about 50% of the curriculum. 2. I want a career that is lucrative and stable. Vet med seems very dependent on the economy and doesn't have the guaranteed job security of, say, a family physician. Clinic ownership might be lucrative but owning an animal hospital seems a hell of a lot more demanding than working regular hours as a GP (not to mention less stable). 3. I hate the idea of having to promote myself as a veterinarian - i.e. the whole customer service and marketing aspect of it, like dentistry. MDs seem like they can get away with being introverted and can adopt a much more 'take it or leave it' approach with their patients, since they don't need to try to convince people to come and see them. Quite the opposite: people are desperate to get appointments with doctors and will go on waitlists, drive across the city, etc. 4. There's part of me that feels it would be far more beneficial being an MD, since I don't think we really need more vets (nobody is waiting 6 months to get an appointment for their cat). I also like the idea of being in a position where I can help my family with their future health care needs. 5. My vet school is a 6 hour drive from my home, where I live with my wife. This alone might be a deal breaker. There are two med schools near where I live, either of which I could attend without sabotaging my family life and the career I've worked so hard to establish. That's about it. If I don't attend vet school this fall then I'll be giving up the certainty of becoming a vet for the possibility of getting into med school. However, I currently have a well-paying career that's very flexible, so I could easily continue with my current life while studying for and applying to med school, year after year if necessary. Thanks for reading. Perhaps someone on this forum will have experienced a similar dilemma and can offer some insight.
  5. Thanks for the replies. Any thoughts on UOttawa, English or French stream?
  6. I'm an older applicant seeking a career change into medicine. I posted on here several months ago asking about McMaster & Western, which are likely my best chances given the way they look at GPA, etc. However, my wife and I live in Ottawa, where we have a home and our current careers, so I'm not exactly footloose and fancy-free. I'm therefore looking into nearby schools. My cGPA is around 3.65 (each year is about the same, unfortunately), but I have a Masters and an impressive career, with lots of maturity to demonstrate. Would I have a shot at UOttawa? If not the English program then how about the French? I know someone who was accepted into the French program with a GPA lower than mine. And how about McGill? I can't tell from their website if they are non-trad friendly. Assuming I do well on the MCAT, I think Queen's might be my best shot given their separate consideration of graduate students. It sounds as though this is motivated by an interest in attracting more mature students, but can anyone confirm that Queen's is open to mature non-trads with a lower GPA? Thanks!
  7. Thanks for the info on NOSM; I certainly won't pin my hopes on them. I agree the MCAT should be my next step so that I can at least try for Western and McMaster before doing further undergrad studies.
  8. Thank you for your reply. I live in Ottawa and have never lived in Northern Ontario or a rural community. Do you know for a fact that this is a requirement even for applicants in the Francophone category? I've looked at the NOSM website and there is no mention that Francophone applicants must also have a Northern/rural connection....but perhaps it is required.
  9. Older non-trad here planning to apply to medicine in the next year or two. I live in Ontario, and I’m looking for suggestions as to how I should approach things. My educational background and career are in the arts, and I’m a successful small business owner, so I might be attractive to non-trad friendly schools, such as McMaster. I’ve recently taken a number of science courses part-time (bio, cell bio, biochem, genetics, etc.) and got an A+ in each one, so I’m confident in my ability to excel in the sciences. I haven’t taken the MCAT yet because I don’t want it to expire before I apply to med school. The big problem is my undergrad GPA is about 3.65, and is pretty much the same in all four years. I have a Masters, however, and my cGPA from all courses ever taken is about 3.70. As things stand I can either: a) Do another year or two of full-time undergrad study to be competitive at Queen’s, Western, maybe UOttawa. My work schedule is flexible and I could study full-time (perhaps through Athabasca) while continuing to earn a good living….so this isn’t entirely unappealing. b) Apply to the following schools with the grades I have: 1. Western (best 5 full-year courses policy means my two best years of undergrad would be 3.84) 2. McMaster (cGPA would be 3.7) 3. NOSM (my career serves the Francophone community and I am fluent in French, so this might work) Am I missing anything important here? Are there any other non-trad friendly schools that would be an option for me? Any realistic options for OOP schools? Thanks!
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