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  1. I really don't understand how schools can have different deadlines if they're set by the AFMC. If, for some reason, Queens doesn't want to budge I'd ask your student association reps if they can take up the issue for you (even if you're not technically a student yet). They may have some more pull.
  2. Let's look on the bright side. The 2023/2022s were obviously very concerned about our safety and ensuring high visibility, and definitely not using this as a funny opportunity to make traffic light photos or take advantage of the opportunity to saddle the next year with the most outlandish colour they could. I'm sure the 2024/2023s will be similarly considerate next year.
  3. Well I guess next year will be grey as we continue to move our way down the traffic light pole:
  4. That's a question well above my pay grade. I would suggest seeing what the old posts have to say, reading through the reports, and seeing what the actual evidence is either way, bearing in mind that this kind of topic can be prone to strong, not evidence based, opinions and people with an axe to grind either in favour or against schools or streams that may not reflect reality (particularly when it comes to reporting % matched figures that can be biased in various ways): http://forums.premed101.com/search/?&q=DO IMG CaRMS&search_and_or=and&sortby=relevancy
  5. Just as an FYI if you didn't know (or for anyone stumbling across this) if your plan is USDO>Canadian Residency DOs are considered IMGs: https://www.carms.ca/match/r-1-main-residency-match/eligibility-criteria/summary-intake-criteria-osteopathic-school-graduates/ So unless you like having a faint chance of matching to rural family or some IM program with leftover seats, you need to plan to complete a American residency, with all the paperwork and citizenship issues that can produce. That's going to be the big obstacle for a faster return to Canada.
  6. The fee calculator (https://www.uottawa.ca/university-fees/) says $26,627.90 CDN, including fees. This is lower than the AFMC figures for the past years, so I'm wondering if there are any fees I'm missing. Or, did the 10% tuition cut apply to Medicine as well? To add my own question, has anyone been registered/heard about updated registration timelines? I know Corona has changed timelines, but I was wondering when we'd receive emails and logins to end the "Accepted but not Registered" purgatory.
  7. I'm finishing the process now and was told the offer hasn't been renewed yet but I could still get the points somehow. Go and ask your advisor nicely and see what they say. Scotia wants you to spend money, and bonus points offers are normal, so why not?
  8. Very interesting, thanks for sharing! Take a look at table 1, they report the avg. GPA (We knew that), CARS (ditto), and CASPer score (out of 9 presumably)+: https://bmcmededuc.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12909-020-02126-0/tables/1 Measure All Accepted Rejected <P-value  CARS 126.2, ±2.3 129.2, ±1.5 126.0, ±2.3 < 0.001 Grade Point Average (Mean, SD) 3.6, ±0.4 3.9, ±0.1 3.6, ±0.4 < 0.001 CASPer (Mean, SD) 4.6, ±1.2 5.7, ±0.9 4.5, ±1.2 < 0.001 MMI (Mean, SD)a 6.4, ±1.1 7.0, ±0.7 5.4, ±0.8 0.10 The size of the SD on the "all/rejected" GPAs is interesting vs. the much narrower accepted band, but I supposee that's the way stats work. It does give some hope to anyone applying that the overwhelming majority of Mac applicants are not 3.9/130 level applicants. Also, interestingly, they found "No significant collinearity was found between these variables." where those variables were GPA, CARS, interview, CASPer, and income. https://bmcmededuc.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12909-020-02126-0/tables/5The CASPer confidence intervals actually overlap, while still being statistically different. However, CASPer's odds ratio is ~9, vs. ~3 for CARS/GPA on their own. I wonder what this kind of study would look like at a school that actually looks at ECs. There is no admissions measure that high SES doesn't give an advantage in (Short of a Manitoba points based system, which would be very politically contentious) so I wonder if Mac's emphasis on stats may disproportionately favour higher SES applicants.
  9. I was in the same spot last year. You only need one ID to write CASPer. Enter your Dal ID and write it using that one. Later in the summer/fall all the schools will pop up and you'll be able to enter your IDs as required, it's not a glitch, it's a feature since it's so early.
  10. Just to add to the great comments above, consider doing a course based professional Masters program. Most are shorter than a true research one, with a fixed end date, and can lead to great careers. Application processes vary depending on how you find a supervisor (if thesis based) but generally you would be applying during your 4th year (later than Medicine). For the Masters I applied to the deadline was in February IIRC, as were most others in my province, to start the following academic year.
  11. Most schools will ask you in the application, if solely for tracking purposes and determining IP status. I'll say with 99% certainty that you won't be asked about high school in an interview. I can't prove it, but I don't think it really matters since I had an "unconventional" high school path and it didn't stop me from getting interviews (although maybe they flagged it afterwards, who knows...) For most applicants high school is long past and they're interested in your university experience.
  12. Wow. Mac does something different again. I don't have any skin in this game, and I can understand partially why'd they'd want to do this looking back, but I don't think their reasoning is really fair to the guaranteed interview group. As it stands, they're hurting both new, reapplicants, and guaranteed interview people by increasing the post-interview competitiveness. GPA's typically increase, I'd imagine most people wouldn't rewrite the MCAT if they had a high enough CARS score for a guaranteed interview, and CASPer is a black box which guaranteed interviews bypass. IF 90% of the UofC's interviewed reapplicants get another interview, I can't see Mac, which doesn't use subjective ECs (but has more applicants admittedly), being massively different. If they hadn't increased the number of spots new/re applicants would have been slightly negatively affected by a small reduction in the number of remaining interviews filled by people who were on the margins last year and would have been in the 10+% who were not given another interview, but the guaranteed interview pool would have had the same odds and everyone would be equal to last year post-interview. Increasing the number of spots means everyone is negatively affected, with only a few new/reapplicants benefiting from the increased numbers. Instead of ~203 seats/550, it's not ~203/650-750. That means new applicants and everyone face more competitive odds post-interview (EDIT: Assuming that this means straight addition 550+guaranteed and not running the formula again like TheStern suggests, which would be the best solution in my opinion). If we run a thought experiment with 150 people eventually rejected post-interview and assume 75% of them would have received another interview that means 37 of that group would have not received another interview (leaving 113 to interview again). Under the old interview number (550) and eventual offer number (~320) that would mean 47 people rejected post-interview would be accepted (no guaranteed interview scenario). But that isn't the choice they made, so If you send all the people rejected post-interview to a guaranteed interview and don't change the number of interview you end up with 87 people from that pool getting acceptances (a 40 person difference). If you increase the number of interviews to 700, with 320 eventual offers, with guaranteed interviews, 69 of the guaranteed interview pool ends up with offers. The % of new/rejected preinterview applicants is the same as any other year with the new spots. IF all the assumptions hold, and percentages are the same (big if since reapplicants may interview better), the cost of expanding the interview pool vs. not ends up being 18 people not getting offers from the guaranteed pool. I'll leave it to someone else to weigh in on if admitting 18 more new/reapplicants is worth it. In the end, it is a zero sum game, and you need to decide if prioritizing new applicants/people rejected pre-interview is worth expanding the interview pool. This is all assuming 600-700 interviews won't be the new normal going forward. If they manage to pull it once without significantly complicating logistics or increasing costs, why not always interview more people to increase the power of the MMI in the process? This feels unfair to guaranteed interview people who were promised interviews, and I'm sure assumed (I was) that this interview would have about the same odds at the cancelled interview. I suppose you can make the argument any guaranteed interview is better than none at all, even with these longer odds, but since they're already giving guaranteed interviews that's not the point of discussion.
  13. All seat/offer numbers are available from the AFMC, and schools may release interview numbers themselves. For the 2018-2019 cycle (the last one in the AFMC report) Ottawa interviewed 575 people for 244 offers (similar to the UofA). This year they interviewed 582 for an unknown number of offers (probably similar). The multiplicity of streams at Ottawa does complicate simple math here, although there is not a large OOP contingent. Ottawa is probably between Queens and the UofA in terms of numbers game competitiveness. The reasons for UofA and Queen being wildcards (I agree wholeheartedly with the message above as someone who was rejected post-interview at both schools despite feeling these were good/great interviews) is they interview more people for less seats than other schools. There are 86 non QuARMS/non-Indigenous seats at Queens, that is incredibly low for an Ontario school. Some are also MD/PhD seats IIRC. Applying to any school is a lottery but some schools are better or worse in the numbers.
  14. You're right, I'm not sure how I managed to miss that... In this case my feeling (although I'm curious what Wendy says) is that it would make the most sense to use last year's CARS score, since they're essentially trying to make-up for the lottery/scrubbed interviews, and using last year's CARS score is closest to this model.
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