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  1. The most transparent school in Canada (The UofC) has repeatedly stated (with stats) that for their MMIs there is basically no difference between different interview dates. I can't see this being different for other schools. The whole MMI process is supposed to eliminate these kind of issues (or at least minimize them). Now, online vs. in-person adds an unknown that has the strong potential to generate differences. I wouldn't read too much into this. As I understand it, they're simply stating that their procedure is to look over the panel before finalizing their offer list for everyone as a general practice. Technically everyone who has completed the first weekend/invited to the panel (and waitlisted in a way) is being considered for admission. That being said, the pool just got smaller, which does mean better odds.
  2. Are they actual "rejection" emails or are people interpreting their waitlist email as a rejection? People can be very loose with language. There was someone calling interview invites "offers" a couple weeks ago...
  3. Mine also says "Insert time". I'd imagine a follow-up is in the works. Now, has anyone received a waitlist email? I want to be sure they didn't accidentally invite everyone...
  4. They're out! I just got the invite. Considering I thought my interview went amazingly (for the first 10 minutes afterwards) and then I spent the next couple days kicking myself for some less than brilliant off-topic comments, I'm happy. Don't trust your neurotic feelings people!
  5. Friday is Good Friday and the beginning of the Easter Weekend. I would think Thursday but I'm loath to speculate.
  6. To add to the chorus, I faced this issue with another program at two other Universities (not UOttawa) and specifically asked them. They were very clear that admission to different programs at their university are independent and I could apply to both Medicine and the other program (which I am retaining as a backup) and decide in May which program to go with. It definitely didn't affect getting an interview. According to the one school, Medicine couldn't even see that I applied to this other program although I'm not sure if that's true everywhere. It may be somewhat different with both programs being within Medicine, but I can't see other schools being stingy. People need backups, and in the end, if you get in (net positive for you), you forfeit the deposit (a net positive for the school) and someone else gets the seat (a net positive for them). It's a win-win-win with only some admin frustration involved. People drop out of grad programs between offer and starting, programs plan for it. Now if you strung along a potential supervisor that would be more annoying and I would imagine more frowned upon.
  7. I would be extremely wary of such a drastic change (rumored) by an account created specifically to post this. Can you say troll? Let's all sit back and try to let our blood pressure drop...
  8. No, it doesn't really make sense. The absolute fastest someone can go through the entire training pipeline to primary care is 5 years (3 year school+2 FM years). Even if you argue that a 3 year school MS3 is a useful healthcare worker that's still well beyond even the most long-term estimate for this I've seen. The easiest way to deal with a shortage of healthcare workers is to relax licensing requirements, push MS4s ahead of schedule, and get residents out of their residencies. While provinces (And the States) are doing some of these things, they are currently bottle necking residents behind exams, which is a far more useful source of workers. In any case, this doesn't solve the issue that adding school seats doesn't do anything without an increase in residencies. This will (With some luck) be over in a couple of months, and when you consider the length of the training pipeline and costs involved it doesn't make sense as a first line response. Governments are going to be cash short, and training medical students is expensive, as are residencies. What I think may happen is different waitlist/offer acceptance behavior. We're going into a nasty economic depression, and I have encountered a few people who declined Medicine acceptances entirely for other, less stable, fields. Those kinds of people may be more reluctant to do so this year. On the flip side, there may be people who see physicians and healthcare workers dying overseas and may be second-guessing themselves now. In any case, these are likely very small groups, so we'll see in May, but I doubt there are major changes so long as all the schools release offers on schedule.
  9. Your friend is mistaken.We did not have unlimited time. We had identical timing to the in person MMI.
  10. I would suggest part of your answer is the number of "What are my chances?" posts which only include their UofT wGPA, or the number of posts saying "The UofT" is my top choice. I have yet to see anyone post a similar post and say the same about Mac, Queens, Ottawa, or Western (n=1 of course). For whatever reason, there seems to be a fixation on the UofT I don't really understand. A Canadian MD is a Canadian MD, be it from the UofT, Queens, Ottawa, a Provincial School, or a 3 year school.
  11. Ontario medical schools do not care about what your undergrad cGPA is, they use only your OMSAS GPA (Which is why it exists). Does your institution have an A+? If it does you use the A+=4.0 and A=3.9 scale. If not, you use scale 8 and an A is a 4.0: https://www.ouac.on.ca/guide/omsas-conversion-table/ As far as your OMSAS grade being lower than your transcript grade, that is an intended effect of doing this. It lets them discriminate between A+ and A performance. When you consider the fact that most (3/5) schools are somewhere in between an A and A+ with wGPA weighting you can see why they do this. Those schools are Ottawa, Toronto, and Western. Even schools without wGPA (Mac) are very close to that straight A average. I go to a letter grade institution which gives A+s and my OMSAS GPA is a bit lower than my transcript grade.
  12. The long and short is no one knows and it will be months before we'll have any sort of answer. The UofT has indicated that schools are talking to each other about this, so we may see a more unified response, or we may see each school go a little bit of a different direction (as is the norm). No. One. Knows. My personal (guess) is that at least some schools will simply drop this semester's grades, for everyone, out of equity. Think about what grades are supposed to represent; the ability to handle academic material while also engaging in ECs over an extended period of time. COVID-19 ruins the assessment purpose of this, while online exams are hard to check for cheating. I'm at an institution with a stubborn admin who refuses to move towards P/F and I wrote a Google Form midterm last week. A Google Form! I can imagine there was cheating on that, so is it really fair to take online assessment or modified assessments (which at my school at least, are often following a "Take the highest grade item to makeup the missing %", inflating marks...) to compare students? I would say no. The combined effects of the increased potential for cheating, disruption to learning environments, and overall flux mean this semester isn't a great one for gauging anything. Add in divergent responses between institutions and you have a tough time doing anything that's fair. Are you going to disqualify all the students from schools with mandatory P/F? Of course not. What about optional P/F, before or after grades? We'll see what happens, and I'm sure some people with a worse first semester who were on track for a better 2nd semester may be negatively impacted, but I don't think schools are going to be as negative towards P/F courses in this semester.
  13. You missed the "/s"... Although I will admit the post did make my heart jump before I checked my inbox. To be the one to ruin the joke: "After much consultation and reflection and in light of McMaster University’s decision to cancel all class and in-person examinations and events, we have made the difficult decision to cancel our upcoming MMI process and the pre-MMI Open House sessions with students, scheduled March 27, 2020 through and April 4, 2020. " and "McMaster MD Program has made a decision that we will not hold in-person or virtual interviews in 2020 given the current limitations. "
  14. I honestly don't think hours are as important as diversity of experiences. Sample size of n=1, but I did well with EC heavy schools despite having no activity above 1,000 hours (including employment) and no volunteer commitment above 200 hours. What I did have was lots of activities in a whole bunch of different areas that demonstrate competencies. The law of diminishing returns is real (Especially if you're not getting paid!) Unless you're going to be moving up role descriptions/responsibilities (or are getting paid...) I think you should be aiming to be good at many things. Lookup CANMEDs and find your weak areas and fill them. I would also advise doing less "premed" things. The whole research+hospital volunteering+clubs only takes you so far. I think part of the reason I did well in getting invites is that my resume doesn't have a single thing that says "premed" and I've encountered quite a few people with diverse backgrounds during my interview circuit (and more than a few Health Sci and "Masters for Med" types as well, to be fair). That being said, you will see a bunch of people get in with the stereotypical ECs so it's still my opinion and n=1 sample size.
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