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  1. I think the others are being too credulous in the idea that professors will always be beacons of justice and unbiasedness and what you got is what you deserve. I have certainly seen professors take a disliking to many students, especially in smaller classes, and their grades do suffer as a result. Yes, most professors do not have the time or energy for silly vendettas and personal biases, but they're still human in the end and it's possible you got treated unfairly. However, please understand that you will look foolish and overly neurotic (to the point of self-detriment, not in the cutesy premed way) if you write an academic explanation essay for ONE B. Come on. Almost every friend I went to undergrad with and went on to med has several Bs and even Cs. Don't let this get to you, and good luck with your applications.
  2. From personal anecdotes, it's not like that for every FM residency program. But sure, it's true for others. The difference is it's not a constant like in other residencies, and it's 2 years instead of 5-7. Anyone can probably suck it up and force their way through that for two years, but five is just... I don't know how people do it. I very much value sleep.
  3. Sorry, but how badly you want something has very little correlation with whether or not you "deserve" it over any other applicant and certainly not whether you'll be any good at it. Many people dream about becoming famous actors or singers, too, and they are constantly beaten out by the millions of others who share the same dream as well as those who were just sort of given the opportunity. Barring nepotism/unfair advantages, it's neither fair nor unfair, it's just the way it is. Sad, fine, but it's foolish to suggest that you need to be bouncing up and down at the thought of practicing medicine to be any more qualified to be a good doctor than someone who sees it as simply a job. You wouldn't trust an engineer who is building a bridge that will support dozens of cars over a river because he sees his job as simply a job? I don't care whether or not he's passionate about calculating the load a bridge can take. I care that he's able to effectively do his job. I know plenty of people I spent undergrad with who wanted nothing more than to be doctors who would be downright awful at it, either because they're not very good at being empathetic, or because they simply weren't very good at science. It is sad that they can't fulfill their dreams, yes, but I'd rather have a doctor who had the academic rigour necessary to properly diagnose me than someone who was admitted simply because they are "so intensely passionate about helping others and practicing medicine." If it comes down to two people at the top of the interview list, then yes, it's a coin flip, but there's a 99% chance they're equally capable and deserving regardless of their differing passion. From personal anecdotes as well as dozens of hours reading into this, doctors who hate coming to work are usually those who are trapped by debt (not an enormous problem after a couple of years of practice in Canada), those in inhumanely demanding residencies or specialities that I personally will never go near, and those who went into it thinking it was their predestined magical fate and get slapped by the harsh bureaucratic and futile reality of medicine (hint: it's not all that great, no matter how much ~passion~ you have). Anyways, I'm not sure why the idea of "coasting" aggravates you? I prefaced that several times in my previous posts by saying it's still a LOT of hard work. There's still an enormous volume of material to learn and getting a 70% means you know the majority of it. Just because I'm not going to subscribe to the ridiculous notion that my entire life needs to be living and breathing medicine and studying at every second or doing observerships or research or extra readings or extra time in the clinic et cetera doesn't mean I'm going to make a bad doctor. I don't need that stuff for the job I want to do, so why do it? That's exactly the kind of awful rhetoric that lead to the foolish idea that we need to be martyrs for our patients and for the art of medicine. The same ideals and notions that hospital admins (who love the incredibly cheap resident labour) and attendings (who went through the same thing and are bitter and want to dish it out on the next generation) perpetuate that lead to the inhumane residencies, the 80 hour work weeks, the day after day of 24-hour call with no sleep, the extremely high burnout, depression, job dissatisfaction, and suicide. Almost every other field has invariably better work-life balance- why can't we? I have a life outside of medicine and I enjoy it very much and you're damn right I'm not going to spend one second longer than I need to learning to be a good doctor. If that aggravates you, then I really don't care, and you're exactly part of the problem I dreaded when I thought about a career in medicine. Medicine is a job. For some it's a passion, for others a calling, but at the end of the day, it's a job. A stable, high paying one that requires a lot of training, intelligence, and discipline. There's ample time to kick out bad seeds, either during the extremely competitive admissions process, during medical school, residency... *especially* in today's hypercompetitive system. If you're in an MD program, and especially if you successfully complete residency, it means you more likely than not have the skills and character required to be a good doctor. I highly doubt anyone who would genuinely make a bad doctor could brute force their way through premed, volunteering/ECs, the MCAT, applications, ethics tests, interviews, med school, and residency. But if you think everybody in medicine is just teeming with constant uncontainable passion and excitement, you're sorely mistaken and living in quite an idyllic world.
  4. Med school, Y1. I'm in the exact same boat as you, OP, and I've posted about this a lot on other forums. I've done a ton of research on this subject and to be frank, I didn't really want to go to med school because I do not have this "burning passion" everyone says you need to have (and what the hell everyone claims to be so excited about in medicine, I'll never truly understand). My passions lie in other fields, a lot of them creative (read: no money, no job prospects, do what you love but be broke forever), some of them more suited to a sustainable and stable lifestyle (computer science, webdev, data science). However, med school itself is literally a lottery win here in Canada. Consider the amount of people who apply and how little people actually get in. There's a reason for this. The career is a ticket to an extremely stable job *anywhere* in Canada (I'd wager you could probably find a job almost anywhere in the world). Not only that, but you're getting remunerated a substantial amount of money (which is fair given what it takes to even begin practicing). If you have even a modicum of interest in the material and won't hate the job to the point where you harm your patients or yourself, I think it's worth it. If you have the intelligence and required character traits and have already put in the work to be admitted (a very high GPA, stellar ECs/volunteerism, the MCAT, etc.), it's hard to turn down- at least it was for me, anyways. For instance, consider that med in Canada is pass/fail. As long as you have some natural ability to retain information easily (i.e., most successful admits), you don't need to kill yourself studying to just pass (it's been ~4 weeks and I've been doing fine with like, 10 hours a week). You don't need to spend hours doing research and ECs to make yourself competitive for a specialty where, after 5 years, you'll have to spend another 2 in fellowship to *then* get a job. You can "coast" (I mean, it'll still be hard work, especially around exam times and during clerkship) and finish in 6 years with a job anywhere you want helping people, which in of itself is quite rewarding. Also consider that the debt we take on is significantly lower than in the US, which makes this a financially sound choice- I certainly wouldn't be doing this if I wasn't in Canada (also, family physicians are paid much more here than in the states). And once you're there, immediately switch over to part-time work, work for 2-3 days a week, earn higher than the average Canadian household income, and have the rest of the week for your passions/interests. Or be a hospitalist and work 7 days on, 7 days off and have every other week off for what makes you happier than medicine. Or do emergency med and work what turns out to be 6 months out of the year and still make more than any other full time job. Or open your own clinic and take on 12 hour days if you want and then go to the hospital afterwards to round if that's your thing. The amount of flexibility is unprecedented. Yes, you can begin making a salary that rivals a physicians' take-home (after billing, overhead, taxes) in data science or finance or whatever, but you'll still probably be working 50-60 hours a week until the day you retire. Look, I don't think you will ever get through a surgical residency or even an internal medicine residency (80 hour work weeks on top of studying on top of 4 day 24hr call = no free time, no social life, no sleep...for 5 years) without some underlying passion- the people who *do* have the passion almost all burn out and become husks of themselves those 3-7+ years. I already know that's not the life I want or desire, I don't care how interesting I think one particular body system is. Re: residency. I've heard mixed things about family med residencies. One thing I will say for sure is that the vast majority of the programs are less intense than your average specialty. I believe the fam med with a +1 in emergency med is actually quite stressful and in its own boat. Other +1s or more prestigious family med programs might be similar in that regard. If you're rural, you might have a lot more hours simply because they just need the manpower (just like a family doc in a rural setting works 60+ hours a week because who else is gonna serve the entire community?). And finally, don't forget it's two years compared to the 3-7+ in other specialties. I can take 80 hour work weeks on no sleep for two years, but 5? Forget it. Re: being a good doctor- you still need to know enough to pass, which means you need to understand and critically apply the information to achieve at least a 70% grade. A lot of what we learn in med school becomes completely irrelevant for the specialty you choose. You'll know enough to be a good doctor so long as you have all the other necessary traits- compassion, empathy, the ability to refresh on material and learn new material over the years, etc. Again, if you have no "passion" to the point where you're going to be a bad doctor (rude to your patients, harming them, etc.) and miserable all day, then no, don't do it. Anyways, PM me if you want to talk more. I completely empathize with your position, and I know more than anyone there's an enormous shortage of people in our field who share the same worries (at least premeds and pre-M3s; more join our boat when they realize medicine isn't really their ~dream come true~).
  5. What about family med? Just aim to pass in med school, the residency is much, much less grueling than most other specialties, and you can work part time forever and still make well above the average Canadian income. Is the 6-year training that hard if you're aiming to coast?
  6. yes first of all, don't do that and put potentially high-risk patients in danger second of all, don't advertise it on instagram if you do. common sense.
  7. I listed my research (long term but no pubs) and got 5 interviews in Ontario so I would say it's not a red flag
  8. This was my initial thought process as well, which is why I pretty much immediately stopped going forward with the lease. Especially because I agree, I'm pretty sure things will be online in January too. ~$14.5k ($1200/month) might be a drop in the bucket compared to how much debt I'll be in in four years, but i'm still broke as hell and that's a lot lmao. You'd think we wouldn't be able to meet up, but a large proportion of my class is already hanging out several times a week. Not to sound cold or anything, but I don't necessarily care about making more friends, I have enough of those. It's just I might miss out on med-school specific support that i might need to not want to jump into a lake lol. I feel like I won't get the same support via zoom than if it was in person
  9. I have. I lived away from home my entire undergrad and for most of my gap year, until COVID. My home situation is okay, so I'm not itching to set out for independence again, so it's not worth moving out just for that. It would really just be the social aspect I worry about. Definitely- having just finished my undergrad about a year ago, I know I would have had a much worse time without social supports. Sharing notes, studying together, even just stressing together as you said is invaluable. Do you think if I came into the picture a semester late or even next year but still made contacts online (zoom blahblah) I'd still be able to make those connections?
  10. Hey all, I was recently admitted to med school (in my first week right now). Despite being told we should close to campus for the semester, our school sprung a last-minute decision that everything would be 100% online. Because I am a notorious procrastinator, I had not yet finalized a lease, so this was somewhat good news. Initially I was going to back out of the prospective lease I was entering since I had no real incentive to move cities, but I'm having second thoughts. It seems like literally everyone in my class is still moving cities, and, I'll be honest, I'm getting some major FOMO. Although the idea of needlessly spending $1200 a month for four months just to socialize/meet people makes me cringe, I also know that making connections is super important in medicine and in making med school easier, so I'm kind of torn. I really don't want to set myself up to be an outcast. I'm also worried that I won't be able to find a place come January, but I'm equally worried the rest of the year will be online as well, and I'll have lost an entire years worth of rent for nothing. Any advice?
  11. You would need to prove you're entering specifically to practice medicine. The mere fact that you're a med student won't exempt you, but if you're crossing the border to work in a hospital, then yeah, it looks like it.
  12. there's nothing wrong with a sports heavy ABS, so long as it's not literally the only thing you've done. Just emphasize canMED roles when you write your ABS & essays. Use your discretion- as the above poster said, 15 more-or-less identical entries will come across badly, so make sure each role touches on different parts of the framework.
  13. yes, plenty of people do- just be prepared to spend more time than the avg bio premed does preparing for the test. check out r e ddit.com/r/mcat- has all the resources you need.
  14. i cant believe i've signed myself up for a lifetime of dealing with people this neurotic
  15. Whatever you think you can get the highest GPA in. This doesn't mean pick the easiest major out there, because if you have zero interest in a "bird" major, your grades will reflect that. Most premeds admittedly people go the bio/biochem route- pros include becoming well-versed in the scientific background you need for the MCAT & medical school as well as developing study habits that'll serve you well in med school. Cons- they're decently difficult majors, and you could end up with a GPA that won't get you in medical school. Psychology is okay, extremely easy (at least it was at my school), gives you lots of time for ECs, but you will need to self-teach bio/biochem/physics/chem for the MCAT. Also, no major is "frowned upon." Med school admission does not factor in what you majored in beyond making sure it qualifies (which means, for most schools, a 4-year degree). Only your GPA matters. edit: something else to consider is that certain schools require you taking certain classes, so make sure you follow those requirements as well.
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