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  1. So with this application I'm a little conflicted on how to best organize my activities. 1. For the employment section, is it best to include activities that take place during the school year (showing ability to handle multiple responsibilities) or to also highlight work experience prior to university? The job that I did during school I would also like to include in the leadership section so I'm not sure if I should double list it or place it in one or the other. 2. Again with reusing activities, I have some life experiences that I would also like to also talk about in the personal highlights, is this a problem? 3. Are awards looked upon favorably in the life experience/achievements section or should I leave them out? I have some academic awards above the typical entrance scholarship/deans list. 4. Is LGBT stuff ok to talk about or would it be better to omit just in case? 5. Has anyone gotten in with 2 or 3 activities in one section and/or reusing activities with different descriptions? Sorry for the giant list (I like lists lol) and thanks in advance for any help!
  2. September 28 is last test date. Check out the website too, it's updated
  3. Queens & Western, especially since both use GPA as a cutoff and use last 2/ best 2 years (respectively). U of T is iffy, GPA is just below competitive for grad applicants, may get screened but apply if you have $$. McMaster is also unlikely but possible (2 ppl in 2022 with 3.00-3.49 GPA).
  4. Idk if the odds argument is fully valid. There not drawing interviewees from a hat and accepting them (that was a one-off right??), as far as I know it is in relation to other applicants that you are ranked. So if you're a bad applicant/interviewee your chances are the same- low. The argument for fewer interview spots is that someone who wouldn't get an interview without the 550+ is better than you and would therefore out compete you. I think that's more or less fair even if it sucks.
  5. I am going into 4th year and starting to worry about my backup plan which was initially to apply to jobs in AB and work there. Now I'm wondering if this is a good plan given the amount of ppl who don't get in on their 1st, 2nd, 3rd etc. attempt. My GPA is good and my ECs, specifically volunteering activities are lackluster (yes, really). ECs are more research heavy than anything else, by hours (no pubs or presentations). As such I'm not sure whether or not to apply to MSc and MD programs concurrently. I was under the assumption that masters primarily helps with GPA issues but I would like to know if anyone has any other inputs on this. My current pros & cons are as follows: Pros - If I start a MSc I should have funding which is important because either way I'm moving provinces. This gives some stability/assurance that I will be able to live lol - I want to eventually do a PhD, probably in residency. A MSc is a good step towards this - If I never get into an MD program it is a step towards a career in research which I am interested in, though I haven't set a number of application cycles I will go through before giving up - Probably more flexibility to do volunteering while a FT job would likely have more rigid hours - Extra reference letter Cons - Losing out on an application cycle, already oldish (however given my current ECs its unlikely I could improve THAT much in my 4th year, especially given COVID closures) - Possibility of not publishing or finishing in more than 2 years may reflect poorly upon me - Making less money is not ideal with 20k of undergrad debt :'( - limited opportunities in AB vs ON so may end up researching something less interesting to me - how and when does one apply to MSc programs??
  6. I hope they'll allow us more space to talk about our top 3 rather than just mark them
  7. I know scores are not dependent on those who take the test with you, I think the test is composed of questions previously tested to give the appropriate amount of people falling in the percentiles.
  8. @DrOtterThat does help! The only 2 who I think could provide examples of empathy are 6 and 7. My problem is I am not sure these would be seen as objective or not. #6 was also my landlord for a while so maybe that adds objectivity, no one likes their landlord et vv lol
  9. I guess its a question of whether or not we value consistent academic performance, the second group is really pushed closer to their actual ranking. I don't love seeing ppl trying to act like those w good GPAs got it cushy. I worked for my GPA and every two seconds I see posts like "a 4.0/ 520 wont get you in! " "Stats aren't everything!" like why you gotta rub it in my face that above a certain point my hard work is useless lol. If we are going to use GPA to separate people we have to let it do that at some point, to some degree. I am glad there are weighting formulas in Canada because a lot of factors can lead to a bad semester or bad year. There has to be some point where we actually use GPA though. I think the academic explanations essay is a good idea here and more schools should try something like this for people who've gone through tough times that may not make them competitive at first glance. Also that last bit made me chuckle :p
  10. Isn't disparity between applicants preferable? Those with consistent high gpas aren't really benefiting, they're not affected, similarly those with consistently lower gpas are not as greatly affected. This is bad for everyone without a 4.0 but worse for those who had a tough start to uni or had a block of bad courses. I wonder why U of T is so against the MCAT, I think increasing the cutoff or assessing it competitively could help ppl with lower gpas prove their academic side and hopefully lower the ridiculous averages.
  11. I agree thats rather unfair, this seems like something you could submit an explanation essay for. If the CR/NCR was imposed on you they should ideally do something similar to what their doing with the covid situation.
  12. My father is in trades, I'm actually the first in my fam to do any post-secondary. My situation is probably an outlier overall though, higher education was actively discouraged in my household. Tbh there were like 2 other black people in my high school and most of the black premeds I've met are from the city so I haven't noticed much of a trend, very limited sample size though. Makes sense though, higher-class/ professionals are probably going to emphasize education. I haven't thought of it that way but I guess it is hard to phase out affirmative action, its a bandage solution and the big guys can say they're doing something without putting in the effort and working on the core problems. From what you're saying re the indigenous application programs it's not a clear cut issue, there are pros and cons and it kinda depends on whether the benefits outweigh the costs which is at least a bit subjective.
  13. This sucks for people who planned based on the wGPA but tbh dropping 6 half year courses was pretty generous, with the high averages year after year this was kinda bound to happen. If anything this makes a higher gpa actually mean something while still allowing some leeway for a few mistakes
  14. I come from a pretty small town (yes there are some black ppl in the sticks) and have lived in multiple cities and countries, I'm far from cocooned :). Lack of small-town access to care is something that schools are working to fix (NOSM obv and a few western schools have rural pathways) and is rather unrelated to the BSAP. Access to doctors of similar backgrounds is I think an important factor healthcare, I'm not super educated on this though. And regarding keeping a culture static, I really like experiencing/ learning about other cultures and I think it's important to hold on to ones culture but also recognize that change is inherent to it. I am in no way saying Canada is like the 1800s. People move countries for a variety of reasons, I would hope obtaining a better life was not my parents primary goal in moving here as that would be a little shady given the whole idea was to get married cause love or something. Canada is not the most racist country IMO, doesn't change the fact that systemic racism exists here and many places in different forms. This is why equality of opportunity is just not a thing in practice. If black folks are striving for medicine less because they're somehow genetically predisposed cool, don't think so, but cool. If it is because of a cultural issue I think we need to examine how that is shaped by history and the dominant culture. The other side is whether or not the outcomes are better or worse for the healthcare system. I don't think its anyone's goal to produce incompetent black physicians rather the focus in selecting med students should be on patient care. And how much do grades really matter in producing good doctors? I complain about the focus on ECs when more direct metrics like gpa and the MCAT are available but in the end it seems med school is not THAT intellectually demanding. Most people I've heard from say it is a lot of work but not necessarily inherently harder in concepts. Some schools have like 3.0 cutoffs with a few people getting in around there every year. The cutoff for being a good doc is not 3.95. I agree with you that affirmative action is not an optimal choice, but I think what U of T is doing is better than nothing. For real change to occur we would need a lot of people willing to put the effort in to help as opposed to moaning about the issues with the current provisions. On a side note, what do you think of the indigenous-focused initiatives?
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