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  1. @Isra The short answer to your inquiry would be: if you don't try, you don't have a chance. Yes there are specifications for each school as far as how they weigh things to weed out some applicants etc. but med schools nowadays are looking for very rounded applicants (which would not be going out on a limb to say that you are with your experience). You literally are not going to know if you'd be offered an interview, until you take the steps in applying for that opportunity. I think it was ye olde Wayne Gretzky that said "you miss 100% of the shots you don't take." Best of luck and health to you, and happy to hear of your remission.
  2. Newbie here, just wondering if anyone has done the MCAT recently for just the CARS? Can you literally write ONLY the CARS section? Or do you have to BS your way through the rest if you haven't done the other pre-reqs yet? Any insight would be lovely. Thanks!
  3. Yeah pinkneuron I agree with ABCD13 entirely. I'll give you some insight into my struggle and maybe it'll help you feel better lol I attempted to take 3 science pre reqs while working in 2016 and ended up having to withdraw due to the B word... hella burnout, had to take a year off of work to figure out how to take care of myself properly so it doesn't happen again. So now I'm concerned that will look terrible on my application, BUT I am also hopeful that doing them and succeeding now (1 at a time while working... self-care, self-care, self-care), will speak a lot more to my character than simply giving up. You're not alone, I can tell you that! I find that I start thinking I need to get things done ASAP (I'm 30) and that's when I start doing way too much way too fast and get overwhelmed and self sabotage and give up due to stress. As much as I don't want to say it, it is the old tortoise and the hare theme... it doesn't matter how long it takes you to get there, it's that you succeed in getting there. That will look different for every person, and med schools thankfully recognize that nowadays. Good luck to you! And always here if you need a rant you can PM me. Who knows, maybe we will end up applying in the same app cycles!
  4. I am extremely happy to see people with expertise and experience finally responding to this, I was not having a nice time reading the beginning of this thread. I can say I agree with everything that bpMed has said and I'm grateful for you sharing your story and insight for the OP. I am currently completing my sciences one at a time while working full time (mental health nurse), and applying to med school in the next couple years. I suffer with depression, anxiety, and PTSD from multiple traumas. I will tell you that it will NOT be an easy road ahead, but clearly this is not news to you with what you've already been through. And the fact that you have survived until this point without knowing the 'why' in how you were feeling speaks volumes to your strength out the gate. What a terrifying time you must have had. I am very proud of what you've overcome to be here with us today. It's more difficult to deal with a struggle if we literally don't know why it's happening... know what I mean? (the too well-known "I am anxious because I don't know why I'm anxious" cycle for me). I will also tell you that whatever you decide to do, you CAN do it. The suggestions are right in making sure to take the time to figure out a self-care routine that keeps you at your most well, having support of your medical team and family/friends, and being open about your struggles early on and proactive with management. The FM idea, in the past I had decided that when I get in, this is the residency I would aim for as it was the shortest. With intensive work on myself and doing CBT, I now know that as long as I continue my management practices, I could be a surgeon if that's what I decide. It all comes down to how we prepare ourselves to succeed, and that requires being vulnerable in admitting what we need. Whether that is some time off for medical reasons, or not, is evidently your call. I learned this the hard way and had to take a year off of work some time ago, in order to figure out how to take care of myself. Choosing FM is totally fine, but not if you make the decision in the spirit of limiting yourself. You need to be very honest with yourself because if you make this decision for the wrong reason, you may not feel fulfilled later on which would also feel terrible. There are MANY successful people in high-stress careers that suffer with mental illness, the only time they aren't successful is by not taking the steps to manage it as needed, and it looks like you are already doing this in seeking advice. Wish you the best of luck!
  5. Well I will say I disagree with people telling you the reasons to NOT go for it. There is no particular blanket approach in med school admissions anymore. Each school has their own admissions requirements, so look them all up, and decide which schools you want to apply to, and meet those requirements, and apply until you get in. Perseverance is HUGE. I know people who applied 6 times and they were going to quit after that, applied a 7th and got in. If it's what you truly want to do, then you basically need to find a way to do it. It is for sure advised that you write the MCAT. You may not have to do a 2nd undergrad, but take the pre-MCAT sciences, do well in them, and score really well on the MCAT, and you could be fine. Like I said it's school-dependent. Med schools nowadays take mature applicants with diverse experiences seriously as they tend to have a lot more of the intrapersonal and interpersonal qualities that drive success in such a field, vs a 21 year old who has never stepped foot in a hospital or dealt with much adversity in life. I'm not bashing anyone and not saying that those types of applicants aren't warranted a fair chance or have the abilities to succeed, everyone is different, just a huge theme from my recent research. This is why admission requirements have changed so much in recent years. i.e. UBC not requiring coursework on transcripts but still requiring MCAT, other schools giving more weight to rural applicants, a lot of schools posting on their admissions webpages of how they are looking for ROUNDED applicants etc. etc. Good luck!
  6. @snj I'm a nurse (2 years as care aide first, then 6+ years as nurse) and I'm just taking the pre-MCAT sciences now, one at a time, (on the first!) while working full time remote nursing, and I'm 30 years old. I gave up on this dream at least 10 times in my life, but I'm now at the point where I have 100% committed to it and will simply do what it takes to get there. If you want to be a physician, it is doable, and if the issue is that you simply don't believe in yourself I will come back when I'm accepted and light a fire under your butt! I hope since 2017 you have taken some steps forward to this goal. There are a few forums on here with people who are 48 years old and up speaking to applying as mature applicants, and if that doesn't put it into perspective, I don't know what will! It's never too late to work toward your dreams, or to realize your true potential. All you have to do is decide to begin the journey.
  7. Thanks for this forum because I, too, have struggled relentlessly with wavering back and forth on the "I'm too old" train. It's been a debilitating thought at some points. I'm currently 30, looking to apply to NOSM in the next application cycle, and completing pre-MCAT sciences one at a time (only on first one!) while working full time so I can apply to other schools if needed once MCAT is done. I've worked in the health care field for 8+ years, so I'm hoping that experience will help too! I think the main theme here is, if you want it, GO FOR IT, and don't let your brain convince you that you can't because of your age, lol.
  8. yeah, giving out these specific MMI details is synonymous with giving out an answer key to the MCAT. And if the school found out, you would be removed from the program. Nobody is going to put themselves in jeopardy in this way. Google MMI prep & examples, utilize books and other resources, and practice their suggestions on HOW to prepare vs. looking for specific scenarios to prepare for. Each school and MMI is going to be different, but the process and approach is similar. If you are largely prepared for the process and how it works, you'll be well prepared for anything they ask you. From the research I have done, it's heavy with scenario testing, and there are tons of ways to practice this approach as long as you're willing to put in the time to familiarize yourself with scenario testing. Practice, practice, practice. Good luck!
  9. @P.T.2M.D. Just reading forums and I want to say thank you for sharing, I'm 30 and have been a nurse for 6 years, planning to apply to NOSM next cycle, and I struggled for a couple years already with thinking I was too old to follow my dream (as many things in life have happened to slow down the process). It's people like you willing to share your story that make people like me feel better about going after this dream after all. Good luck to you and hopefully 'see you around'!
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