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  1. I think that sounds right. And yeah I definitely put everything in chronological order. I don't really know what else I did since I didn't save the version of the workbook that I was messing around with. But idk, if you meet the second degree conditions they've outlined, I'm sure that the workbook will either work or they'll look at it more closely when you submit it formally.
  2. So I'm applying this year based on a second degree. I talked to admissions about it and they said that being evaluated on the basis of a second degree itself doesn't put me at any disadvantage compared to others with just a first bachelor's degree. So yeah, you'll be considered to be on the same "level". As for the workbook, I'm not sure. I played around with the last one based on the particular graduation date I'll have relative to when I apply (i.e. I just moved all the dates back by a year) and it worked fine for me and recognized my second degree as my basis of admissions degree. It's been a while though, so I don't remember exactly. If you know for sure that you'll have the 45 credits done before you apply, and will graduate before July 31 2021 (I think that's the date) you should be fine though. If there ends up being a problem with this year's workbook then I'd just contact admissions about it.
  3. AFAIK you're evaluated based on your R-Score if you're applying to the Med-P program right out of a Quebec CEGEP. If you're applying as a University applicant you're evaluated based on GPA. They're two entirely distinct entry streams.
  4. On one hand I understand that their methodology sort of limits what they can provide, but on the other hand this seriously limits the utility of the ranking for people (like me) who expected to rank really poorly on academics, but decently well on the CV/CASPer and were hoping to gain some insight into their competitiveness... I basically applied this year just to get my component-specific rankings LOL. And I agree, it sucks that we don't have any useful information on how they use academic and/or CASPer scores at the file review stage. I'm really not into how much of a black-box CASPer is.
  5. Nope, I haven't received mine either.
  6. No, only courses taken as part of your basis of admission degree will be included in your cGPA. There's no real point in taking undergrad classes after you've graduated unless you still need to complete certain science prerequisites.
  7. Anyone have any idea about why there were ~200 more QC University applicants this year than last? Seems like a big jump. Also does "admitted" include everyone who was admitted, even if they end up rejecting the offer? or does it only include the people who are admitted/registered in the class as of when the stats are published?
  8. You have to request it here: https://www.mcgill.ca/medadmissions/request-ranking-requete-de-classement
  9. Yeah you're right, they got rid of the 8-year expiry policy. I know that you can petition them for certain classes to be considered as prerequisites, so I'm sure that between that and you having an entire degree in physics, they'd consider your background to be sufficient. That said, they do seem to require students with non-North American degrees/coursework to jump through some extra hoops, so it doesn't hurt to make sure. Good luck!
  10. My hunch is that you're probably fine as long as you can point to two introductory physics courses that are roughly equivalent to the courses at McGill. If I were you I would email admissions to ask specifically if it's okay that they were completed at a non-North American school. You've already read through this page, right? They seem to be pretty reasonable about it I think.
  11. Just for the record for anyone who's concerned about maintaining eligibility: I emailed admissions and they said that in the case of second degree applicants who need 45 graded credits by November 1 to apply, they'll still consider all the credits earned in Winter 2020 for the purpose of eligibility, even if they don't factor those grades/credits into your degGPA calculation.
  12. I'm pretty sure they scrapped that requirement around the time they eliminated the NTP admissions stream (last year or the year before iirc). Either way, I haven't been able to find any suggestion of it on the current version of the admissions website. Is there a page you could point me to that says something about it?
  13. Option 1 includes 7 basic sciences (Physics 1 + 2, Chemistry 1 + 2, Biology 1 + 2, Organic Chemistry 1), Option 2 is there so that people who completed, but didn't do well enough to be competitive based on their Option 1 prereqGPA could do an additional 4 classes (Molecular Biology, Cell Biology, Physiology, Organic Chemistry 1), and then if their prereqGPA was higher for the 4 Option 2 classes than it was for the Option 1 classes, the admissions committee would use the more favourable GPA. Since prereqGPA is no longer being considered (before it was 20% of the post-interview score, as of this year the post interview score is 100% based on the interview alone), I don't know how they're viewing Option 1 vs. Option 2 classes.
  14. This document says that CHEM 350 is accepted for Organic Chemistry for Option 2, and presumably also for Option 1. I don't know about physics, but according to that document McGill seems to accept their biology and chemistry courses, so idk but I'm guessing that they'd probably take physics too. I'd email them to be sure.
  15. Honestly I'm not really sure what to make of that. In what way could MCAT scores make someone more or less competitive? Before, it could balance a slightly lower prereq-GPA, but now that the prereq-GPA is not considered, what deficiency could there be that a high MCAT score would help make up for? My hunch is that that's just "leftover" wording or something. If you consider the components of the pre-interview (70% degGPA, 20% CASPER, 10% CV) and post-interview (100% MMI) rankings, I just don't see where an MCAT score can factor in for a candidate for whom the MCAT is optional or not required.
  16. If you've completed a second bachelor's degree, then any prerequisite courses you took during your first degree will not contribute to your cGPA. They'll simply check to see that you took them and got a certain minimum grade in each.
  17. I just got a response from admissions and they confirmed that you're correct! The Fall 2021 Cycle is the one starting in Fall 2020 with admitted students starting their studies in Fall 2021.
  18. That's still sort of unclear to me since there's no prerequisite science GPA anymore. My interpretation is that for anyone in an applicant category where the MCAT is required, they'll still require it, but you just have to pass a certain threshold (maybe still the 80th percentile that they require now?) as an eligibility requirement, and the score won't be used competitively/comparatively. It looks like the policy change effectively means that there's no possible advantage in writing the MCAT if it's not required of your applicant category.
  19. I emailed them asking what "Fall 2021 Cycle" refers to but haven't heard back. Someone else told me that they found language on the McGill Med website that suggests that "Fall 2021" refers to the application cycle ENDING in Fall 2021. But I would have understood it as the cycle starting in Fall 2021. So idk. Edit: but the McGill Med website is already updated to show that the final admission decision is 100% based on the interview, which would be a weird and misleading thing to change if the policy weren't coming into effect for the next cycle. Edit 2: Admissions confirmed to me that the Fall 2021 Cycle is the one in which admitted students begin their studies in Fall 2021, i.e. those candidates would submit their applications by November 1 2020.
  20. 1) Yes. 2) It looks like they'll require a C or higher (https://www.mcgill.ca/medadmissions/applying/requirements/requirements-edu/basic-science-prerequisites - go down to "Conditions for validity of prerequisite science courses" and "Minimum grades for valid science prerequisites, minimum MCAT") 3) Your first quote is correct: the exact GPA in your science prerequisite courses will not count, and the final admission decision depends 100% on the interview. As for your second quote, the only place I can find that information is in an outdated version of the eCalendar. That language does not seem to appear anywhere on the McGill MDCM admissions website, nor the current 2020-2021 eCalendar. McGill scrapped the 8 year policy a year or two ago, and there are plenty of people around here who have redone courses through Athabasca or Thompson Rivers and had them accepted. So in sum: you need to complete the prerequisites, each with at least a C (or whatever the minimum grade to be granted a degree/transfer credit is at your university I think). It doesn't matter when they are completed, and I don't think it matters where (within reason). And yes, your particular grades in the prerequisites won't affect your admission one way or another if you make it to the interview stage.
  21. I don't know for sure, but it does seem like a permanent change going forward, i.e. that any future applicant can have 3 in progress prerequisite classes during the year they apply, presumably as long as they're completed before they matriculate. On another note: I'm not sure if by "Fall 2021" they mean 1) the class entering in Fall 2021 that would apply in Fall 2020, or 2) the class entering in Fall 2022 that would apply in Fall 2021.
  22. Yeah, I'm going to wait a bit for them to clarify things on the rest of the website and then maybe go drop a class I'm redoing. That seems like a pretty big change to just casually tack on to the end of the Winter 2020 grade policy lol. Edit: maybe not going to drop that class since it says that the change is for the Fall 2021 cycle, and not Fall 2020...
  23. I'm skeptical that they'd cut you a break on this since it seems to go against the spirit of their policy. It seems like it automatically applies, but who knows how they're going to format the academic workbook this year. If I were you I'd email them and let us all know!
  24. From point 2 in the document they uploaded it looks like they'll count the credits earned towards the total required, but not the specific grades earned! "Winter 2020 credits for all successfully completed courses will be counted towards degree totals as reported on the institution’s transcript." But yeah let us know what they say. Also it looks like prereq-GPA doesn't matter anymore as a stand-alone factor in the post-interview assessment? Am I reading that right? The final admission decision will be 100% interview-based?
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