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    Vons got a reaction from zackattack881 in Second degree GPA calculation   
    I think that sounds right. And yeah I definitely put everything in chronological order. I don't really know what else I did since I didn't save the version of the workbook that I was messing around with. But idk, if you meet the second degree conditions they've outlined, I'm sure that the workbook will either work or they'll look at it more closely when you submit it formally.
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    Vons reacted to medium fundamental in Has anyone received their ranking?   
    No problem!
    Well the wording about their selection process on their website in previous years used to be that academic evaluations were performed for all applicants, and then following that only those who had competitive scores for that had their CASPer and CV reviewed.
    "Based on the academic evaluation, only competitive applications proceed to a review of the non-academic assessment (CASper Score and CV). The non-academic assessment is carried out for approximately 4 to 6 times the number of candidates we intend to interview. For example, if we intend to interview 50 people in a particular applicant category, the CVs of the top 200-300 files in that cohort are evaluated."
    I used Internet Wayback Machine to view older versions of their website to confirm.
    May 2018 version
    https://web.archive.org/web/20180509080841/http://www.mcgill.ca/medadmissions/applying/selection-process
    Sept 2017 version
    https://web.archive.org/web/20170922174701/http://www.mcgill.ca/medadmissions/applying/selection-process
    For this cycle, they changed it to what we see now.
    I agree that some form of CASPer cutoff occurred, I'm just a bit curious about the issues I mentioned in my post.
    Correct, I did not get a CASPer-specific ranking. Technically speaking, I got a ranking for the File Review stage (whatever that represents: "based on the Academic and/or CASPer scores"). I’ll paste a fuller screenshot of the letter:
    https://imgur.com/a/EqI2GoD
    Notice the specific wording for the ranking:
    “Your file progressed to the File Review/Verification step, where you ranked XYZ (900ish) out the 1035 total applications in your cohort at that point.”
    I think I get your theory but I’m not sure that’s how they did it exactly because of: the specific wording mentioned above (apparently my rank was 900ish already at that initial stage) + my Academic scores in previous years make me believe my overall rank wouldn't be that low + why the weird "and/or" wording, but who knows at this point you could be right and I'm just overthinking it lmao… need more data
    Additionally, it would be nice when more rankings trickle in to see if component-specific rankings like in previous years (Academic, CASPer, CV) were provided to people who went past File Review.
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    Vons got a reaction from shortie in Prerequisite grades following new guidelines option 2   
    1) Yes. 
    2) It looks like they'll require a C or higher (https://www.mcgill.ca/medadmissions/applying/requirements/requirements-edu/basic-science-prerequisites - go down to "Conditions for validity of prerequisite science courses" and "Minimum grades for valid science prerequisites, minimum MCAT")
    3) Your first quote is correct: the exact GPA in your science prerequisite courses will not count, and the final admission decision depends 100% on the interview. As for your second quote, the only place I can find that information is in an outdated version of the eCalendar. That language does not seem to appear anywhere on the McGill MDCM admissions website, nor the current 2020-2021 eCalendar. McGill scrapped the 8 year policy a year or two ago, and there are plenty of people around here who have redone courses through Athabasca or Thompson Rivers and had them accepted. 
    So in sum: you need to complete the prerequisites, each with at least a C (or whatever the minimum grade to be granted a degree/transfer credit is at your university I think). It doesn't matter when they are completed, and I don't think it matters where (within reason). And yes, your particular grades in the prerequisites won't affect your admission one way or another if you make it to the interview stage.
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    Vons got a reaction from fluffybunnyyyyy in Winter 2020 grades?   
    Just for the record for anyone who's concerned about maintaining eligibility: I emailed admissions and they said that in the case of second degree applicants who need 45 graded credits by November 1 to apply, they'll still consider all the credits earned in Winter 2020 for the purpose of eligibility, even if they don't factor those grades/credits into your degGPA calculation.
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    Vons got a reaction from Cardiolove01 in Prerequisite grades following new guidelines option 2   
    1) Yes. 
    2) It looks like they'll require a C or higher (https://www.mcgill.ca/medadmissions/applying/requirements/requirements-edu/basic-science-prerequisites - go down to "Conditions for validity of prerequisite science courses" and "Minimum grades for valid science prerequisites, minimum MCAT")
    3) Your first quote is correct: the exact GPA in your science prerequisite courses will not count, and the final admission decision depends 100% on the interview. As for your second quote, the only place I can find that information is in an outdated version of the eCalendar. That language does not seem to appear anywhere on the McGill MDCM admissions website, nor the current 2020-2021 eCalendar. McGill scrapped the 8 year policy a year or two ago, and there are plenty of people around here who have redone courses through Athabasca or Thompson Rivers and had them accepted. 
    So in sum: you need to complete the prerequisites, each with at least a C (or whatever the minimum grade to be granted a degree/transfer credit is at your university I think). It doesn't matter when they are completed, and I don't think it matters where (within reason). And yes, your particular grades in the prerequisites won't affect your admission one way or another if you make it to the interview stage.
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    Vons got a reaction from Cardiolove01 in Prerequisite grades following new guidelines option 2   
    I just got a response from admissions and they confirmed that you're correct! The Fall 2021 Cycle is the one starting in Fall 2020 with admitted students starting their studies in Fall 2021.
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    Vons reacted to AB2 in Prerequisite grades following new guidelines option 2   
    I actually have 2 quizzes due monday for the class and decided to check premed101 to procrastinate a bit. LMAO excellent news but $$$ wasted i guess. Time to enjoy my weekend
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    Vons got a reaction from jonasbrothers in Athabasca Orgo/Physics   
    Option 1 includes 7 basic sciences (Physics 1 + 2, Chemistry 1 + 2, Biology 1 + 2, Organic Chemistry 1), Option 2 is there so that people who completed, but didn't do well enough to be competitive based on their Option 1 prereqGPA could do an additional 4 classes (Molecular Biology, Cell Biology, Physiology, Organic Chemistry 1), and then if their prereqGPA was higher for the 4 Option 2 classes than it was for the Option 1 classes, the admissions committee would use the more favourable GPA. Since prereqGPA is no longer being considered (before it was 20% of the post-interview score, as of this year the post interview score is 100% based on the interview alone), I don't know how they're viewing Option 1 vs. Option 2 classes.
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    Vons got a reaction from jonasbrothers in Athabasca Orgo/Physics   
    This document says that CHEM 350 is accepted for Organic Chemistry for Option 2, and presumably also for Option 1. I don't know about physics, but according to that document McGill seems to accept their biology and chemistry courses, so idk but I'm guessing that they'd probably take physics too. I'd email them to be sure. 
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    Vons got a reaction from cc11 in Prerequisite grades following new guidelines option 2   
    If you've completed a second bachelor's degree, then any prerequisite courses you took during your first degree will not contribute to your cGPA. They'll simply check to see that you took them and got a certain minimum grade in each.
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    Vons got a reaction from MEDusa in Prerequisite grades following new guidelines option 2   
    1) Yes. 
    2) It looks like they'll require a C or higher (https://www.mcgill.ca/medadmissions/applying/requirements/requirements-edu/basic-science-prerequisites - go down to "Conditions for validity of prerequisite science courses" and "Minimum grades for valid science prerequisites, minimum MCAT")
    3) Your first quote is correct: the exact GPA in your science prerequisite courses will not count, and the final admission decision depends 100% on the interview. As for your second quote, the only place I can find that information is in an outdated version of the eCalendar. That language does not seem to appear anywhere on the McGill MDCM admissions website, nor the current 2020-2021 eCalendar. McGill scrapped the 8 year policy a year or two ago, and there are plenty of people around here who have redone courses through Athabasca or Thompson Rivers and had them accepted. 
    So in sum: you need to complete the prerequisites, each with at least a C (or whatever the minimum grade to be granted a degree/transfer credit is at your university I think). It doesn't matter when they are completed, and I don't think it matters where (within reason). And yes, your particular grades in the prerequisites won't affect your admission one way or another if you make it to the interview stage.
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    Vons got a reaction from Medfool25 in Prerequisite grades following new guidelines option 2   
    That's still sort of unclear to me since there's no prerequisite science GPA anymore. My interpretation is that for anyone in an applicant category where the MCAT is required, they'll still require it, but you just have to pass a certain threshold (maybe still the 80th percentile that they require now?) as an eligibility requirement, and the score won't be used competitively/comparatively. 
    It looks like the policy change effectively means that there's no possible advantage in writing the MCAT if it's not required of your applicant category.
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    Vons got a reaction from RN_to_MD in Winter 2020 grades?   
    I don't know for sure, but it does seem like a permanent change going forward, i.e. that any future applicant can have 3 in progress prerequisite classes during the year they apply, presumably as long as they're completed before they matriculate.
    On another note: I'm not sure if by "Fall 2021" they mean 1) the class entering in Fall 2021 that would apply in Fall 2020, or 2) the class entering in Fall 2022 that would apply in Fall 2021.
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    Vons reacted to giraffe3 in McGill 2020 Waitlist Support Thread   
    https://montrealgazette.com/news/local-news/quebec-expands-admissions-to-medical-schools-by-more-than-100/?utm_term=Autofeed&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1590239089
    http://www.fil-information.gouv.qc.ca/Pages/Article.aspx?idArticle=2805228808
     
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    Vons got a reaction from fluffybunnyyyyy in Winter 2020 grades?   
    I'm in the same boat and I emailed them yesterday asking if they had any idea at all, and they told me that they hadn't figured it out yet and they'll post an update on the website when they do. Not really useful, but it at least seemed like they're aware that some of us stand to lose a lot.
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    Vons reacted to fluffybunnyyyyy in Winter 2020 grades?   
    I'm a second degree student and set to have completed EXACTLY 45 graded credits (no S/U or pass fail) by fall 2020 for next application cycle so that i can use my second degree grades ... if they disregard this semester... will that make me ineligible??? UGH!  
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    Vons reacted to Osler in McGill 2020 Waitlist Support Thread   
    Yes i did this afternoon!!! Freaking out right now and probably will be for the next few weeks, this was my dream school!!
    Best of luck to all of you, the waitlisted moved quite a bit in just two days! 
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    Vons reacted to TortueGeniale in Mcgill MDCM Fall 2020 Acceptance/Rejection/Waitlist Thread   
    TIME STAMP: 10:55
    Result: Admitted with condition
    Pre-req GPA: 4.0
    MCAT: Not submitted
    Feeling About MMI (please be mindful of NDA): First interview after facing many reject over the years. I felt good about 7-8 stations but was convinced I screwed up royally on 2-3 of them. But with time, I started doubting everything I did until today
    Year:  2nd undergrad finished in 2018
    IP/OOP/International: IP
    Comments: To anyone reading this, it was my 6th time applying. After my first bachelor (with a disastrous GPA), I was even told by an advisor I could never get into med school. But I kept reading success stories on the forum about people who did a second bachelor and who got in. Thus I went down that road, which was not easy by any means, but it was all worth it. Do not get discouraged by getting a reject, keep improving yourself, do stuff that matters to you and which will show the adcoms how everyday you strive to become a better version of yourself and how big is your resolve to get into med school. Do not let a reject define who you are at the moment. You'll get in, I believe in that. It's just a matter of time.
    Congratulations to everyone who got in and for those on the waitlist, it's not easy to be patient but it will pay off.
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    Vons reacted to swtomd in Mcgill MDCM Fall 2020 Acceptance/Rejection/Waitlist Thread   
    TIME STAMP: Don`t know cause I waited for the email...
    Result: Admitted with condition
    Pre-req GPA: 3.71
    MCAT: Not submitted
    Feeling About MMI (please be mindful of NDA): 2nd time around. The first time was disasterous and I ranked in the bottom third. This time,  I practiced, applied myself and the MMI was actually quite enjoyable and I left the interview feeling great. 
    Year:  2nd undergrad finished in 2016, masters finished in 2017, both were professional degrees. 
    IP/OOP/International: IP
    Comments: To everyone reading this who did not get the answer that they were hoping for - I feel you. Last year I was in the same spot. I am a mature non-traditional student. I decided to pursue medicine later in life, years removed from any science classes and had to retake my pre-reqs after finishing my degrees. This meant long nights after working multiple jobs, all with a dream and goal in mind. I was told by many that I was crazy, that I would not get in. Pursuing this caused frictions in relationships that ended as a result. The sacrifices were considerable. 
    If it is truly your dream do not give up. 
    Can`t wait to join some of you soon and for the others - remain hopeful and keep on applying, wishing you the best!
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