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  1. You have to request it here: https://www.mcgill.ca/medadmissions/request-ranking-requete-de-classement
  2. Yeah you're right, they got rid of the 8-year expiry policy. I know that you can petition them for certain classes to be considered as prerequisites, so I'm sure that between that and you having an entire degree in physics, they'd consider your background to be sufficient. That said, they do seem to require students with non-North American degrees/coursework to jump through some extra hoops, so it doesn't hurt to make sure. Good luck!
  3. My hunch is that you're probably fine as long as you can point to two introductory physics courses that are roughly equivalent to the courses at McGill. If I were you I would email admissions to ask specifically if it's okay that they were completed at a non-North American school. You've already read through this page, right? They seem to be pretty reasonable about it I think.
  4. Just for the record for anyone who's concerned about maintaining eligibility: I emailed admissions and they said that in the case of second degree applicants who need 45 graded credits by November 1 to apply, they'll still consider all the credits earned in Winter 2020 for the purpose of eligibility, even if they don't factor those grades/credits into your degGPA calculation.
  5. I'm pretty sure they scrapped that requirement around the time they eliminated the NTP admissions stream (last year or the year before iirc). Either way, I haven't been able to find any suggestion of it on the current version of the admissions website. Is there a page you could point me to that says something about it?
  6. Option 1 includes 7 basic sciences (Physics 1 + 2, Chemistry 1 + 2, Biology 1 + 2, Organic Chemistry 1), Option 2 is there so that people who completed, but didn't do well enough to be competitive based on their Option 1 prereqGPA could do an additional 4 classes (Molecular Biology, Cell Biology, Physiology, Organic Chemistry 1), and then if their prereqGPA was higher for the 4 Option 2 classes than it was for the Option 1 classes, the admissions committee would use the more favourable GPA. Since prereqGPA is no longer being considered (before it was 20% of the post-interview score, as of this year the post interview score is 100% based on the interview alone), I don't know how they're viewing Option 1 vs. Option 2 classes.
  7. This document says that CHEM 350 is accepted for Organic Chemistry for Option 2, and presumably also for Option 1. I don't know about physics, but according to that document McGill seems to accept their biology and chemistry courses, so idk but I'm guessing that they'd probably take physics too. I'd email them to be sure.
  8. Honestly I'm not really sure what to make of that. In what way could MCAT scores make someone more or less competitive? Before, it could balance a slightly lower prereq-GPA, but now that the prereq-GPA is not considered, what deficiency could there be that a high MCAT score would help make up for? My hunch is that that's just "leftover" wording or something. If you consider the components of the pre-interview (70% degGPA, 20% CASPER, 10% CV) and post-interview (100% MMI) rankings, I just don't see where an MCAT score can factor in for a candidate for whom the MCAT is optional or not required.
  9. If you've completed a second bachelor's degree, then any prerequisite courses you took during your first degree will not contribute to your cGPA. They'll simply check to see that you took them and got a certain minimum grade in each.
  10. I just got a response from admissions and they confirmed that you're correct! The Fall 2021 Cycle is the one starting in Fall 2020 with admitted students starting their studies in Fall 2021.
  11. That's still sort of unclear to me since there's no prerequisite science GPA anymore. My interpretation is that for anyone in an applicant category where the MCAT is required, they'll still require it, but you just have to pass a certain threshold (maybe still the 80th percentile that they require now?) as an eligibility requirement, and the score won't be used competitively/comparatively. It looks like the policy change effectively means that there's no possible advantage in writing the MCAT if it's not required of your applicant category.
  12. I emailed them asking what "Fall 2021 Cycle" refers to but haven't heard back. Someone else told me that they found language on the McGill Med website that suggests that "Fall 2021" refers to the application cycle ENDING in Fall 2021. But I would have understood it as the cycle starting in Fall 2021. So idk. Edit: but the McGill Med website is already updated to show that the final admission decision is 100% based on the interview, which would be a weird and misleading thing to change if the policy weren't coming into effect for the next cycle. Edit 2: Admissions confirmed to me that the Fall 2021 Cycle is the one in which admitted students begin their studies in Fall 2021, i.e. those candidates would submit their applications by November 1 2020.
  13. 1) Yes. 2) It looks like they'll require a C or higher (https://www.mcgill.ca/medadmissions/applying/requirements/requirements-edu/basic-science-prerequisites - go down to "Conditions for validity of prerequisite science courses" and "Minimum grades for valid science prerequisites, minimum MCAT") 3) Your first quote is correct: the exact GPA in your science prerequisite courses will not count, and the final admission decision depends 100% on the interview. As for your second quote, the only place I can find that information is in an outdated version of the eCalendar. That language does not seem to appear anywhere on the McGill MDCM admissions website, nor the current 2020-2021 eCalendar. McGill scrapped the 8 year policy a year or two ago, and there are plenty of people around here who have redone courses through Athabasca or Thompson Rivers and had them accepted. So in sum: you need to complete the prerequisites, each with at least a C (or whatever the minimum grade to be granted a degree/transfer credit is at your university I think). It doesn't matter when they are completed, and I don't think it matters where (within reason). And yes, your particular grades in the prerequisites won't affect your admission one way or another if you make it to the interview stage.
  14. I don't know for sure, but it does seem like a permanent change going forward, i.e. that any future applicant can have 3 in progress prerequisite classes during the year they apply, presumably as long as they're completed before they matriculate. On another note: I'm not sure if by "Fall 2021" they mean 1) the class entering in Fall 2021 that would apply in Fall 2020, or 2) the class entering in Fall 2022 that would apply in Fall 2021.
  15. Yeah, I'm going to wait a bit for them to clarify things on the rest of the website and then maybe go drop a class I'm redoing. That seems like a pretty big change to just casually tack on to the end of the Winter 2020 grade policy lol. Edit: maybe not going to drop that class since it says that the change is for the Fall 2021 cycle, and not Fall 2020...
  16. I'm skeptical that they'd cut you a break on this since it seems to go against the spirit of their policy. It seems like it automatically applies, but who knows how they're going to format the academic workbook this year. If I were you I'd email them and let us all know!
  17. From point 2 in the document they uploaded it looks like they'll count the credits earned towards the total required, but not the specific grades earned! "Winter 2020 credits for all successfully completed courses will be counted towards degree totals as reported on the institution’s transcript." But yeah let us know what they say. Also it looks like prereq-GPA doesn't matter anymore as a stand-alone factor in the post-interview assessment? Am I reading that right? The final admission decision will be 100% interview-based?
  18. Yeah right. I guess all we can do for now is to take them at their word that they're going to do their best to not disadvantage anyone based on this semester. I'd be really surprised if they decided to disregard this semester entirely at this point. But it would be great if they could decide soon so that we can stop worrying.
  19. I'm in the same boat and I emailed them yesterday asking if they had any idea at all, and they told me that they hadn't figured it out yet and they'll post an update on the website when they do. Not really useful, but it at least seemed like they're aware that some of us stand to lose a lot.
  20. Yes. According to how they word it, as long as 45 credits of your second bachelor's degree are completed by November 1, that should be the only cGPA they use. If you've completed 60 credits of your second bachelor's degree, they'll use the cGPA for all 60 credits. In neither case should any of the classes from your first degree factor into your cGPA. But as for the comparable degree language, I think it refers mostly to your grades. They say "...45 consecutive graded credits (in a second/alternate bachelor's degree program) must be completed by the November 1 application deadline.The remaining 15 (or more) credits must be completed by July 31 of the year of entry to medical school, and these must be at a level comparable to that which appears in the academic records submitted at the time of application." The "level comparable" refers to the previous 45 credits required to apply based on a second degree. So for example if in November 2020 you want to apply based on a second bachelor's degree, you'd have to have 45 credits of it already completed by November 1. If you do, they'll base your cGPA on only those 45 credits. BUT, you also need to finish the second bachelor's degree before you can actually enrol (i.e. you can't start a second degree, get admitted to med, and then not finish the second degree), so the remaining 15 credits for the second degree would have to be completed in either the Fall or Winter semester. The comparable level language means that if your first 45 credits were at a 4.0 GPA, and they admit you based on that, then they expect you to complete the remaining 15 credits at a level comparable, i.e. if you get a bunch of Bs and Cs in 100 level classes, they'll be like WTF no. In the next sentence on their website they say, "A marked decline in academic performance in the final term(s) may lead to withdrawal of an offer of admission." Which I think supports the interpretation that this policy refers to your actual grades, and not some arbitrary comparison on the relative difficulty of your two bachelor's degrees. The whole point is that the first bachelor's degree isn't supposed to matter anymore, and McGill isn't like the French schools with some formal published ranking of how they perceive the relative difficulty of all the different undergrad programs. Maybe I'm mistaken, but this is how I understand it!
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