Damn ik this thread is old af but I come to realize how little people understood and still don't get why Trump was elected in the 1st place. It has nothing to do with being dumb/smart like what is being said here. Both sides will attract smart/dumb people. Since the 90's the one thing that has been consistent is the rise of China and the decline of the US. The reason for this was so clear yet no one called it out. The rich people in the US sold out their country and sent all jobs to China and this has led to China becoming very powerful economically. The funny thing is that no one is talking about it. We talk about other issues to death and none of those are ever solved like healthcare in the US and other crap. When Obama was elected, we were suppose to see more peace between races yet it just seemed to get worse. The Middle East was supposed to get more peaceful, yet it got even more chaotic under Obama. All of this chaos seems to me to be porxy's created by the establishment politicians so they can get rich themselves, but transfers power to China as a result. China is very sneaky in their approach to tackling the US and has colluded with the rich people to cause chaos in the US while becoming an economic powerhouse themselves. All these politicians are controlled by lobbyists and what not and have full media support along with a social media which is obviously bias. I think within 5 years, if Trump doesn't win again, China will become the superpower of this world and the West will fall. Trump has flaws for sure and says stupid things, but I think he is brining us towards the decoupling of the US from China which I think is the only option which will keep the free world free as we know it. People always talk about Trump being a dictator and all kind of bs yet China is literally a dictatorship. Honestly, I don't think Trump is perfect and yes of course America has all sorts of problems with healthcare, etc. But before any of that is solved, the current, most important hurdle the US has to get through is stopping the CCP. The CCP is all built on lies. Like who actually believes they only have 83K cases. The Western countries are very clever and are all having trouble controlling and they're saying they only have 83K. Like that's obviously suspicious and they are definitely hiding something. It's not as easy as the Chinese say to control the virus. And of course Trump could have done a better job, but even then this is a tough thing to control just like H1N1 and other pandemics. So yea, I see a lot of people hate Trump and I myself was just neutral back in 2016 and didn't really care, but I truly believe Trump is the only person who will bring us towards decoupling from China, which may hurt in the short term, but I think it will be great for the long term as far as the US' position is concerned in the long run. Of course Trump isn't saying it explicitly but I think it's coming up. Biden is just another Clinton/Bush/Obama that people are fed up of cuz if they weren't Trump wouldn't have won in 2016 and even the rise of Bernie Sanders shows people are fed up with the establishment. Plus how come all the chaos all of a sudden before the election? Obviously seems sus. This is the type of sneaky shit these people do and people fall for it all the time.